Tiffen T1 IR is available at DVinfo.net

Leonard Levy · October 15th, 2009, 03:50 PM

The Tiffen solution to red contamination in the blacks on the Ex-1 is finally available. I just got my complimentary gift in the mail for helping them figure out the problem.
I got my 77mm filter with threads on both sides so it can be coupled inside a Letus type adapter. I haven't checked to see if that fits inside the EX-1 hood but I think a single filter usually does. The default sale could be for a slimline filter with only threads on one side so ask before you purchase.

If my camera ever comes back from repair I'll be able to test it. But the prototype worked so I'm sure this does.

Its light green so you will need to color balance through it.

I don't see it on the B&H site yet but I do at Able Cine- only $69

Tiffen 77mm T1 IR Filter :: Camera Accessories :: New Arrivals :: Equipment Sales :: Abel Cine Tech

Michael Sims · October 15th, 2009, 06:45 PM

Is there any benefit from using the Tiffen over the B+W 486 other than the B+W costs about 2.5 times more?

Leonard Levy · October 15th, 2009, 08:29 PM

Major advantage to the Tiffen ,
Because its a simple dye based absorption filter it doesn't vignette and treats light from all angles equally.
The 486 is expensive because it relies on a special reflective coating that doesn't deal with light evenly that enters from the sides. Hence you get a green vignette when using even a slightly wide angle lens. This is a huge limitation. Also you can't stack it behind another filter because of reflection problems.

IMHO the Tiffen filter is a perfect solution to the Far Red contamination issue on the EX-1 and should be purchased by everyone who owns the camera. Thank god its cheap.

(Caveat that I haven't actually tried my own yet - but the prototype was perfect.)

Steve Shovlar · October 16th, 2009, 02:31 AM

Abel Cinetech are useless for us overseas buyers. They are afraid of Jonny Foriegner and won't sell outside the USA. Talk about losing sales!

Anyone know where the rest of the world can pick one up? I need this urgently as I run into this problem on an almost daily basis and have been waiting patiently for this to come out.

B&H don't yet have it.

Paul Kellett · October 16th, 2009, 03:00 AM

I've seen the filter, i had one in my hand at the IOV show, i saw it on the tiffen stand, they weren't on display, i asked about it and the guy went behind the stand and got it.
The model number on the packet is
77mm TI IR filter W77IR, the price was £97 plus vat.
The filter was very very thin.

I also found out some news about the EX1R, but that thread's closed !!

Paul.

Steve Shovlar · October 16th, 2009, 03:08 AM

Hi Paul, I was at the IOV show on Wednesday all day and spent some time at the Tiffen stand. It never crossed my mind they would have one there. But $69 compared to £97+VAT= ripoff!

I could order one from B&H, pay duty and still be cheaper than that.

Alister Chapman · October 16th, 2009, 03:09 AM

Try TopTeks.

Steve Shovlar · October 16th, 2009, 03:16 AM

Just rang them they are getting back to me after calling Tiffen.

EDIT. OK Top Teks have just got back to me. they spoke to Tiffen and they will be in available from next week. I have ordered one in and the price is £60 + VAT. So not bad.

Mentioned your name Alistair to them so they owe you a drink! Hopfully mentioning them is not against forum rules, as I don't think there is a UK seller advertising on DVI at the moment.

Paul Kellett · October 16th, 2009, 03:50 AM

£60 + vat ! nice one chaps, i'll be getting a couple soon then.

Cheers, Paul.

Barry J. Weckesser · October 16th, 2009, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Kellett

I also found out some news about the EX1R, but that thread's closed !!

Paul.

Paul - how about starting your own thread about EX1R - I know the other thread was closed because B&H said they had a beaurocractic snafu and "that was that" BUT in gathering more information about the topic there was the top exec from Abel Cine who had contacted the Sony rep and it was indicated that changes were coming - perhaps in January. Also EC Junior found out some info but couldn't post it.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what you found out unless speculation of that nature is frowned upon - ? keeping Sony's proprietary secrets

Leonard Levy · October 16th, 2009, 11:29 AM

Tiffen gave me two other references

Filmtools in LA - Aaron or Jim Martin - 818-845-8066

or E.C. Professional in NY (212) 333-5570

Marc Myers · October 16th, 2009, 01:51 PM

I just started a thread in the Area 51 forum for the EX1R. I figure that's the place we should discuss until there's something official.

Kevin Spahr · October 16th, 2009, 05:28 PM

I ordered one as soon as I seen the first post, it just shipped...

John Peterson · October 17th, 2009, 07:40 AM

My daughter picked one up for me at AbleCine late yesterday. She was quite impressed with the place. Said they were very helpful. In fact they wanted to close a half hour early when she called, but they waited for her to get there before they closed. Can't beat that.

John

Mike Marriage · October 17th, 2009, 12:37 PM

I can't overstate how essential this filter is. I now have a 77mm screw on and will be on the camera for everything I shoot with an EX3.

October 15th, 2009, 03:50 PM	#1
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Tiffen T1 IR is available The Tiffen solution to red contamination in the blacks on the Ex-1 is finally available. I just got my complimentary gift in the mail for helping them figure out the problem. I got my 77mm filter with threads on both sides so it can be coupled inside a Letus type adapter. I haven't checked to see if that fits inside the EX-1 hood but I think a single filter usually does. The default sale could be for a slimline filter with only threads on one side so ask before you purchase. If my camera ever comes back from repair I'll be able to test it. But the prototype worked so I'm sure this does. Its light green so you will need to color balance through it. I don't see it on the B&H site yet but I do at Able Cine- only $69 Tiffen 77mm T1 IR Filter :: Camera Accessories :: New Arrivals :: Equipment Sales :: Abel Cine Tech

October 16th, 2009, 03:00 AM	#5
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	I've seen the filter, i had one in my hand at the IOV show, i saw it on the tiffen stand, they weren't on display, i asked about it and the guy went behind the stand and got it. The model number on the packet is 77mm TI IR filter W77IR, the price was £97 plus vat. The filter was very very thin. I also found out some news about the EX1R, but that thread's closed !! Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

October 16th, 2009, 03:09 AM	#7
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Try TopTeks. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

October 16th, 2009, 03:16 AM	#8
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	Just rang them they are getting back to me after calling Tiffen. EDIT. OK Top Teks have just got back to me. they spoke to Tiffen and they will be in available from next week. I have ordered one in and the price is £60 + VAT. So not bad. Mentioned your name Alistair to them so they owe you a drink! Hopfully mentioning them is not against forum rules, as I don't think there is a UK seller advertising on DVI at the moment. Last edited by Steve Shovlar; October 16th, 2009 at 03:47 AM.

October 16th, 2009, 03:50 AM	#9
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	£60 + vat ! nice one chaps, i'll be getting a couple soon then. Cheers, Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

October 15th, 2009, 06:45 PM	#2
Michael Sims Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 102	Is there any benefit from using the Tiffen over the B+W 486 other than the B+W costs about 2.5 times more?

October 15th, 2009, 08:29 PM	#3
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Major advantage to the Tiffen , Because its a simple dye based absorption filter it doesn't vignette and treats light from all angles equally. The 486 is expensive because it relies on a special reflective coating that doesn't deal with light evenly that enters from the sides. Hence you get a green vignette when using even a slightly wide angle lens. This is a huge limitation. Also you can't stack it behind another filter because of reflection problems. IMHO the Tiffen filter is a perfect solution to the Far Red contamination issue on the EX-1 and should be purchased by everyone who owns the camera. Thank god its cheap. (Caveat that I haven't actually tried my own yet - but the prototype was perfect.)

October 16th, 2009, 02:31 AM	#4
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	Abel Cinetech are useless for us overseas buyers. They are afraid of Jonny Foriegner and won't sell outside the USA. Talk about losing sales! Anyone know where the rest of the world can pick one up? I need this urgently as I run into this problem on an almost daily basis and have been waiting patiently for this to come out. B&H don't yet have it.

October 16th, 2009, 03:08 AM	#6
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	Hi Paul, I was at the IOV show on Wednesday all day and spent some time at the Tiffen stand. It never crossed my mind they would have one there. But $69 compared to £97+VAT= ripoff! I could order one from B&H, pay duty and still be cheaper than that.

October 16th, 2009, 11:29 AM	#11
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Tiffen gave me two other references Filmtools in LA - Aaron or Jim Martin - 818-845-8066 or E.C. Professional in NY (212) 333-5570

October 16th, 2009, 01:51 PM	#12
Marc Myers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island, NY and Northeast PA Posts: 132	I just started a thread in the Area 51 forum for the EX1R. I figure that's the place we should discuss until there's something official.

October 16th, 2009, 05:28 PM	#13
Kevin Spahr Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 451	I ordered one as soon as I seen the first post, it just shipped...

October 17th, 2009, 07:40 AM	#14
John Peterson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Monroe, NY Posts: 703	My daughter picked one up for me at AbleCine late yesterday. She was quite impressed with the place. Said they were very helpful. In fact they wanted to close a half hour early when she called, but they waited for her to get there before they closed. Can't beat that. John

October 17th, 2009, 12:37 PM	#15
Mike Marriage Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NE of London, England Posts: 788	I can't overstate how essential this filter is. I now have a 77mm screw on and will be on the camera for everything I shoot with an EX3. __________________ www.mikemarriage.com