Sony EX1 shutter speeds at DVinfo.net

Ian Thomas · September 11th, 2009, 08:29 AM

Just got a EX1 and working through the settings, not as easy as the Z7 the problem is i can't seem to set the shutter at 50 can only set at 60 thats as low as it goes? I now that you can so anybody any help please

Robb Cox · September 11th, 2009, 08:52 AM

Do you have it set to a PAL friendly video format? I.E 1080/25?

Ian Thomas · September 11th, 2009, 09:03 AM

Robb
Yes its set to 1080 50i or any of the other Pal formats but it still only goes to 60, i was testing it yesterday and 50 and below came up but i don't seen to find tham anymore

Craig Seeman · September 11th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Try shutter off.
BTW check the firmware revision number. If memory serves me there was an additional shutter speed or two added with version 1.11. It was little talked about since most of us were focused on the new SDHC (Express USB) support.

Robb Cox · September 11th, 2009, 09:11 AM

If you turn the shutter off, it will set it at 50 with the format youre using.

Perrone Ford · September 11th, 2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Thomas

Just got a EX1 and working through the settings, not as easy as the Z7 the problem is i can't seem to set the shutter at 50 can only set at 60 thats as low as it goes? I now that you can so anybody any help please

Set it by shutter angle. If you are shooting at 25fps turning the shutter OFF is going to give ~1/25 not 1/50. A shutter angle of 180 will give 1/50 at 25fps.

Alister Chapman · September 11th, 2009, 12:09 PM

Think of the shutter as always being on, which in effect it is. When you shoot at 50i the shutter opens 50 times per second, thus is 1/50th, unless you turn the switch on, which then gives you the option to select alternate shutter speeds. No shutter at 50i = 1/50th, no need to use angle or anything else.

Certainly if you swap between interlace and progressive then setting the shutter to 180 degrees may be helpful as that will give you 1/50th at 25P.

Perrone Ford · September 11th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

Certainly if you swap between interlace and progressive then setting the shutter to 180 degrees may be helpful as that will give you 1/50th at 25P.

Thanks Alister, I was thinking progressive.

Ian Thomas · September 11th, 2009, 12:47 PM

Thanks eveybody
Yes the shutter is set to off so it should be okay then, thanks for the advice on 25p shooting Alister, tried all formats can't see a lot of differance between them shootinh a wedding tomorrow might try 1080p looks ok to me

Many thanks
Ian

Alister Chapman · September 12th, 2009, 02:16 AM

I think I need to do a shutter tutorial video as it seems to confuse many people.

Ian Thomas · September 12th, 2009, 03:56 AM

Another thing no lanc socket bummmer, how are you supposed to the manfrotto lanc control with this camera!

Graeme Fullick · September 12th, 2009, 04:05 AM

Ian,

Unfortunately there is no Lanc. You will need to get a controller that connects to the lens. Look at the socket on the front of the grip. Manfrotto do make one as do several other manufacturers. It only gives zoom control however, not focus.

John Peterson · September 12th, 2009, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

I think I need to do a shutter tutorial video as it seems to confuse many people.

That would be great Alister. Personally I love your tutorials. Most helpful and extremely clear. You must have been a teacher.

John

Ian Thomas · September 12th, 2009, 03:55 PM

Just done a wedding today, how do i get the clips into Liquid 7 what do ihave to do

Thanks
Ian

September 11th, 2009, 08:29 AM	#1
Ian Thomas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: York, North Yorkshire, England. Posts: 472	Sony EX1 shutter speeds Just got a EX1 and working through the settings, not as easy as the Z7 the problem is i can't seem to set the shutter at 50 can only set at 60 thats as low as it goes? I now that you can so anybody any help please __________________ Ian Thomas. Thomas Video Productions

September 11th, 2009, 09:03 AM	#3
Ian Thomas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: York, North Yorkshire, England. Posts: 472	Robb Yes its set to 1080 50i or any of the other Pal formats but it still only goes to 60, i was testing it yesterday and 50 and below came up but i don't seen to find tham anymore __________________ Ian Thomas. Thomas Video Productions

September 11th, 2009, 12:09 PM	#7
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Think of the shutter as always being on, which in effect it is. When you shoot at 50i the shutter opens 50 times per second, thus is 1/50th, unless you turn the switch on, which then gives you the option to select alternate shutter speeds. No shutter at 50i = 1/50th, no need to use angle or anything else. Certainly if you swap between interlace and progressive then setting the shutter to 180 degrees may be helpful as that will give you 1/50th at 25P. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 11th, 2009, 12:47 PM	#9
Ian Thomas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: York, North Yorkshire, England. Posts: 472	Thanks eveybody Yes the shutter is set to off so it should be okay then, thanks for the advice on 25p shooting Alister, tried all formats can't see a lot of differance between them shootinh a wedding tomorrow might try 1080p looks ok to me Many thanks Ian __________________ Ian Thomas. Thomas Video Productions

September 12th, 2009, 02:16 AM	#10
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	I think I need to do a shutter tutorial video as it seems to confuse many people. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 11th, 2009, 08:52 AM	#2
Robb Cox Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 40	Do you have it set to a PAL friendly video format? I.E 1080/25?

September 11th, 2009, 09:10 AM	#4
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Try shutter off. BTW check the firmware revision number. If memory serves me there was an additional shutter speed or two added with version 1.11. It was little talked about since most of us were focused on the new SDHC (Express USB) support.

September 11th, 2009, 09:11 AM	#5
Robb Cox Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 40	If you turn the shutter off, it will set it at 50 with the format youre using.

September 12th, 2009, 03:56 AM	#11
Ian Thomas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: York, North Yorkshire, England. Posts: 472	Another thing no lanc socket bummmer, how are you supposed to the manfrotto lanc control with this camera! __________________ Ian Thomas. Thomas Video Productions

September 12th, 2009, 04:05 AM	#12
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Ian, Unfortunately there is no Lanc. You will need to get a controller that connects to the lens. Look at the socket on the front of the grip. Manfrotto do make one as do several other manufacturers. It only gives zoom control however, not focus. __________________ Graeme

September 12th, 2009, 03:55 PM	#14
Ian Thomas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: York, North Yorkshire, England. Posts: 472	Just done a wedding today, how do i get the clips into Liquid 7 what do ihave to do Thanks Ian __________________ Ian Thomas. Thomas Video Productions