might this be the answer re importing from SxS into Mac Pro? at DVinfo.net

Malcolm Hamilton · September 11th, 2009, 08:05 AM

Hi all,
Just wondering if this is what some of you with Mac Pros have been waiting for:

Sonnet - Qio: Professional Universal Media Reader/Writer Plus Four eSATA Ports

works with SxS cards (and others).
Cheers, Malcolm

Alister Chapman · September 11th, 2009, 08:27 AM

Certainly does. Wonder what it will cost.

Craig Seeman · September 11th, 2009, 09:17 AM

Finally (crosses fingers). I don't see a price. Curious about the transfer speed of course.

Brooks Graham · September 11th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it costs $1000.

Sonnet announces Qio universal media reader/writer | MacNN

Gary Barr · September 11th, 2009, 10:54 AM

it'll be $999 and they're aiming for an Oct release but don't know when yet

Andrew Stone · September 16th, 2009, 11:20 PM

Regardless of cost I would tread very carefully before buying this. Not to diss Sonnet. They make good stuff but we have not heard is XDCAM media can be imported off SxS cards with this unit (unless I missed something in their marketing material). They say it will accept SxS cards but you can put mp3s or family snapshots on an SxS card and import them through any card reader that accepts SxS cards.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong but don't spend a thousand bucks until it is verified you can import the EX media through this unit.

Dean Sensui · September 16th, 2009, 11:56 PM

Would be nice to get this with a Firewire connection to the computer.

Alister Chapman · September 17th, 2009, 12:35 AM

If it will work with SxS cards then I see no reason why it wouldn't allow you to copy the files off, after all they are just data files no different to stills or anything else.

Ned Soltz · April 5th, 2010, 03:05 PM

Just adding to this old thread, I have a Qio sitting on my desk now, which I will be reviewing for publication.

It is a pretty amazing little box with connection to Express34 card or PCIe card for desktop computer, pass-through power and 4 eSata ports.

Additionally it is effectively an Express34 or PC cardbus expander. For example, it works with the Express34 interface of the AJA i/o Express and presumably with the Matrox MXO2 or MXO2 mini (I'm testing that later today).

I also do not have any P2 devices here at the moment, so only have been able to test SxS, CF and SDHC cards.

Connected to MacBook Pro, I copied about 15gb from 16gb SxS card to attached Sonnet F2 raid in a little under 3 minutes. Using Shotput Pro, the exact copy time was 164 seconds.

Inserting CF cards from NanoFlash (recorder 1920x1080 23.98 at 100 Mbps LongGOP), I was able to play at full data rate directly from the card.

While the list is $999 (street price at B&H is less), the Qio is much more than a card reader and has some significant uses in edit situations where dealing with a wide range of solid state media.

More as my test progress....

Ned Soltz

Buba Kastorski · May 13th, 2010, 05:16 PM

sorry, i didn't get this,
I won't be able to import from SxS on MacBook Pro?
I was planning to buy 17", 15" doesn't have express card reader, so 3K piece won't read SxS?
thanks,

Craig Seeman · May 13th, 2010, 05:29 PM

This thread is about MacPro which has no express port.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buba Kastorski

sorry, i didn't get this,
I won't be able to import from SxS on MacBook Pro?
I was planning to buy 17", 15" doesn't have express card reader, so 3K piece won't read SxS?
thanks,

Ed Kukla · May 13th, 2010, 07:04 PM

Bubba

My MBP 17" with Express Card slot works with SxS & SDHC (with card adapter) just fine. Not to worry.

Would there be a slimmed down less expensive version of this box coming? Those tx times are enticing.

Oliver Neubert · May 14th, 2010, 03:08 AM

buba

I bought a new MBP 17" in January because I was worried Apple would get rid of the Express card slot, installed FCS and the SXS drivers. The machine went into a kernel panic until I deinstalled VLC. Formatted the harddrive and reinstalled everything from scratch. After a lot of trouble, Apple replaced my MBP with a new machine at the end of February.

Same procedure, same problems, until I uninstalled VLC. The SXS are recognized, but Log and Transfer does not work. I have to use XDCAM Transfer and then import the files to the project.
The machine got really slow as well. Not just when using SXS but in general. I uninstalled the SXS drivers last week and now the MBP is really fast...

What I have to do now is reinstall the drivers when I need to capture on the set and uninstall them before viewing the footage in my project. Otherwise I get the spinning beachball for a few minutes before each "play clip command". Not a great workflow but the only way I can make it perform reasonably.
I was happy with my old MBP running 10.5.8 - no problems there, but these Laptops would not let me install 10.5...

ShotputPro to offload to an external FW drive works fine, but using log and capture on my MBP does not load the Shotput Pro Folders. On my office machine MacPro 8-core the same folders work perfectly...

Some people do not seem to have these problems, others do. Hope you are as lucky as Ed...

Rob Katz · May 17th, 2010, 12:26 PM

t buba

I bought a new MBP 17" in January because I was worried Apple would get rid of the Express card slot, installed FCS and the SXS drivers. The machine went into a kernel panic until I deinstalled VLC. Formatted the harddrive and reinstalled everything from scratch. After a lot of trouble, Apple replaced my MBP with a new machine at the end of February.

Same procedure, same problems, until I uninstalled VLC. The SXS are recognized, but Log and Transfer does not work. I have to use XDCAM Transfer and then import the files to the project.
The machine got really slow as well. Not just when using SXS but in general. I uninstalled the SXS drivers last week and now the MBP is really fast...

What I have to do now is reinstall the drivers when I need to capture on the set and uninstall them before viewing the footage in my project. Otherwise I get the spinning beachball for a few minutes before each "play clip command". Not a great workflow but the only way I can make it perform reasonably.
I was happy with my old MBP running 10.5.8 - no problems there, but these Laptops would not let me install 10.5...

ShotputPro to offload to an external FW drive works fine, but using log and capture on my MBP does not load the Shotput Pro Folders. On my office machine MacPro 8-core the same folders work perfectly...

Some people do not seem to have these problems, others do. Hope you are as lucky as Ed...

oliver-

that is a crummy bit of luck.

i imagine the ram on your mbp is maxed out?

be well

rob
smalltalk productions

Oliver Neubert · May 17th, 2010, 02:11 PM

yep - 8 GB RAM...

September 11th, 2009, 08:05 AM	#1
Malcolm Hamilton Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 844	might this be the answer re importing from SxS into Mac Pro? Hi all, Just wondering if this is what some of you with Mac Pros have been waiting for: Sonnet - Qio: Professional Universal Media Reader/Writer Plus Four eSATA Ports works with SxS cards (and others). Cheers, Malcolm

September 11th, 2009, 08:27 AM	#2
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Certainly does. Wonder what it will cost. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 11th, 2009, 10:23 AM	#4
Brooks Graham Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 121	Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it costs $1000. Sonnet announces Qio universal media reader/writer \| MacNN __________________ EX3, Z1U, FX1, D1X / NeXTstation Turbo Color / FCS3

September 16th, 2009, 11:56 PM	#7
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Would be nice to get this with a Firewire connection to the computer. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

September 17th, 2009, 12:35 AM	#8
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	If it will work with SxS cards then I see no reason why it wouldn't allow you to copy the files off, after all they are just data files no different to stills or anything else. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 11th, 2009, 09:17 AM	#3
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Finally (crosses fingers). I don't see a price. Curious about the transfer speed of course.

September 11th, 2009, 10:54 AM	#5
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	it'll be $999 and they're aiming for an Oct release but don't know when yet

September 16th, 2009, 11:20 PM	#6
Andrew Stone Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 975	Regardless of cost I would tread very carefully before buying this. Not to diss Sonnet. They make good stuff but we have not heard is XDCAM media can be imported off SxS cards with this unit (unless I missed something in their marketing material). They say it will accept SxS cards but you can put mp3s or family snapshots on an SxS card and import them through any card reader that accepts SxS cards. Someone please correct me if I am wrong but don't spend a thousand bucks until it is verified you can import the EX media through this unit.

April 5th, 2010, 03:05 PM	#9
Ned Soltz Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 659	Just adding to this old thread, I have a Qio sitting on my desk now, which I will be reviewing for publication. It is a pretty amazing little box with connection to Express34 card or PCIe card for desktop computer, pass-through power and 4 eSata ports. Additionally it is effectively an Express34 or PC cardbus expander. For example, it works with the Express34 interface of the AJA i/o Express and presumably with the Matrox MXO2 or MXO2 mini (I'm testing that later today). I also do not have any P2 devices here at the moment, so only have been able to test SxS, CF and SDHC cards. Connected to MacBook Pro, I copied about 15gb from 16gb SxS card to attached Sonnet F2 raid in a little under 3 minutes. Using Shotput Pro, the exact copy time was 164 seconds. Inserting CF cards from NanoFlash (recorder 1920x1080 23.98 at 100 Mbps LongGOP), I was able to play at full data rate directly from the card. While the list is $999 (street price at B&H is less), the Qio is much more than a card reader and has some significant uses in edit situations where dealing with a wide range of solid state media. More as my test progress.... Ned Soltz

May 13th, 2010, 05:16 PM	#10
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	sorry, i didn't get this, I won't be able to import from SxS on MacBook Pro? I was planning to buy 17", 15" doesn't have express card reader, so 3K piece won't read SxS? thanks, __________________ I love this place!

May 13th, 2010, 07:04 PM	#12
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	Bubba My MBP 17" with Express Card slot works with SxS & SDHC (with card adapter) just fine. Not to worry. Would there be a slimmed down less expensive version of this box coming? Those tx times are enticing.

May 14th, 2010, 03:08 AM	#13
Oliver Neubert Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zurich, Switzerland Posts: 101	buba I bought a new MBP 17" in January because I was worried Apple would get rid of the Express card slot, installed FCS and the SXS drivers. The machine went into a kernel panic until I deinstalled VLC. Formatted the harddrive and reinstalled everything from scratch. After a lot of trouble, Apple replaced my MBP with a new machine at the end of February. Same procedure, same problems, until I uninstalled VLC. The SXS are recognized, but Log and Transfer does not work. I have to use XDCAM Transfer and then import the files to the project. The machine got really slow as well. Not just when using SXS but in general. I uninstalled the SXS drivers last week and now the MBP is really fast... What I have to do now is reinstall the drivers when I need to capture on the set and uninstall them before viewing the footage in my project. Otherwise I get the spinning beachball for a few minutes before each "play clip command". Not a great workflow but the only way I can make it perform reasonably. I was happy with my old MBP running 10.5.8 - no problems there, but these Laptops would not let me install 10.5... ShotputPro to offload to an external FW drive works fine, but using log and capture on my MBP does not load the Shotput Pro Folders. On my office machine MacPro 8-core the same folders work perfectly... Some people do not seem to have these problems, others do. Hope you are as lucky as Ed...

May 17th, 2010, 12:26 PM	#14
Rob Katz Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: new york city, new york Posts: 594	t buba I bought a new MBP 17" in January because I was worried Apple would get rid of the Express card slot, installed FCS and the SXS drivers. The machine went into a kernel panic until I deinstalled VLC. Formatted the harddrive and reinstalled everything from scratch. After a lot of trouble, Apple replaced my MBP with a new machine at the end of February. Same procedure, same problems, until I uninstalled VLC. The SXS are recognized, but Log and Transfer does not work. I have to use XDCAM Transfer and then import the files to the project. The machine got really slow as well. Not just when using SXS but in general. I uninstalled the SXS drivers last week and now the MBP is really fast... What I have to do now is reinstall the drivers when I need to capture on the set and uninstall them before viewing the footage in my project. Otherwise I get the spinning beachball for a few minutes before each "play clip command". Not a great workflow but the only way I can make it perform reasonably. I was happy with my old MBP running 10.5.8 - no problems there, but these Laptops would not let me install 10.5... ShotputPro to offload to an external FW drive works fine, but using log and capture on my MBP does not load the Shotput Pro Folders. On my office machine MacPro 8-core the same folders work perfectly... Some people do not seem to have these problems, others do. Hope you are as lucky as Ed... oliver- that is a crummy bit of luck. i imagine the ram on your mbp is maxed out? be well rob smalltalk productions

May 17th, 2010, 02:11 PM	#15
Oliver Neubert Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zurich, Switzerland Posts: 101	yep - 8 GB RAM...