GAIN/ATW and Shutter Speed buttons not working. at DVinfo.net

Chris Amana · July 19th, 2009, 09:50 PM

Hello.

This is the second time my on-camera switches for GAIN/ATW and SHUTTER stopped working.

I get a 'cannot proceed' error.

I can still make changes manually, just not with the shortcut preset switches.

Last time i fixed this by resetting the camera to default settings thus losing all my profiles/settings :(

I really don't want to do that again.

Is this a known issue ? maybe an intermittant problem ?

I can't see what i would have done to cause this.

*sigh*

:)

Craig Seeman · July 19th, 2009, 10:35 PM

The settings of the items named with a suffix [D]
can be changed using the Direct menu on the
screen.

Select “All,” “Part,” or “Off” for Direct Menu
using “Direct Menu” (page 107) of the OTHERS
menu.

When the Direct mode is set to “Part,” the
operation is limited depending on the GAIN,
SHUTTER, or WHITE BAL switch setting.
When the Direct mode is set to “All,” the GAIN,
SHUTTER, and WHITE BAL switches are
disabled.

____
When the Direct menu is in All mode, you can
select from among ATW, W:A, W:B, and W:P.
When the Direct menu is in Part mode, you can
switch between ATW and the mode set with the
WHITE BAL switch.

When the Direct menu is in All mode, you can
change the gain in steps of 3 dB with the Direct
menu by operating the joystick or the jog dial.
You can also select AGC mode with the Direct
menu.

When the Direct menu is in Part mode, you can
switch between AGC and the gain selected with
the GAIN switch
_____

When the Direct menu is in Part mode, you
cannot turn the shutter on/off with the Direct
menu if the SHUTTER switch is set to ON.
If the SHUTTER switch is set to OFF, only
switching between Auto Shutter and Shutter
OFF.

The Direct menu cannot be selected when the
camcorder is in Full Auto mode (page 33) or
when the EX Slow Shutter mode is set to “On.”

_____

All the above in the Manual. Translation - Change Direct Menu from ALL to PART

Chris Amana · July 20th, 2009, 10:05 AM

Craig Seeman great work !

Thankyou :)

I will try this tommorow as I've just returned from a shoot and am knackered..

cheerio from OZ !

Craig Seeman · July 20th, 2009, 10:28 AM

This is one of those examples were Sony spreads this all over the manual. It's kind of hard to find a single spot in the manual that says All does this, Part does this, Off does this, in a way most humans can understand. It's not even clear what the error message would be but you, and many others, have seen it of course.

Alister Chapman · July 20th, 2009, 10:31 AM

There should be a sticky for "Cannot Proceed" as this keeps cropping up. Just wish the error message was less ambiguous.

Leonard Levy · July 20th, 2009, 10:39 PM

So what happens if the direct menu is set to "Off", and what does "Direct menu or mode mean anyway?

Serena Steuart · July 21st, 2009, 12:50 AM

If you turn Direct Menu "off" then you can't change any menu settings without going into the menu. Of course all the controls work, but you can't use the joy-stick to, for example, change the PP or steady shot function.

Phil French · September 17th, 2010, 11:46 AM

Thanks Craig! I just learned something new and useful. A big part of this camera is getting everything setup the way it works for the user. I try spending a few hours every week just reading and playing... It seems everytime I have a problem or something I don't like on my EX1r, there is a solution or a work around. I love the level of control. I am working towards the day that I can call my self the master of this camera.

July 19th, 2009, 09:50 PM	#1
Chris Amana Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: australia Posts: 40	GAIN/ATW and Shutter Speed buttons not working. Hello. This is the second time my on-camera switches for GAIN/ATW and SHUTTER stopped working. I get a 'cannot proceed' error. I can still make changes manually, just not with the shortcut preset switches. Last time i fixed this by resetting the camera to default settings thus losing all my profiles/settings :( I really don't want to do that again. Is this a known issue ? maybe an intermittant problem ? I can't see what i would have done to cause this. sigh :)

July 20th, 2009, 10:31 AM	#5
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	There should be a sticky for "Cannot Proceed" as this keeps cropping up. Just wish the error message was less ambiguous. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

September 17th, 2010, 11:46 AM	#8
Phil French Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lousana, Alberta, Canada Posts: 146	Thanks Craig! I just learned something new and useful. A big part of this camera is getting everything setup the way it works for the user. I try spending a few hours every week just reading and playing... It seems everytime I have a problem or something I don't like on my EX1r, there is a solution or a work around. I love the level of control. I am working towards the day that I can call my self the master of this camera. __________________ Nature Boy

July 19th, 2009, 10:35 PM	#2
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	The settings of the items named with a suffix [D] can be changed using the Direct menu on the screen. Select “All,” “Part,” or “Off” for Direct Menu using “Direct Menu” (page 107) of the OTHERS menu. When the Direct mode is set to “Part,” the operation is limited depending on the GAIN, SHUTTER, or WHITE BAL switch setting. When the Direct mode is set to “All,” the GAIN, SHUTTER, and WHITE BAL switches are disabled. ____ When the Direct menu is in All mode, you can select from among ATW, W:A, W:B, and W:P. When the Direct menu is in Part mode, you can switch between ATW and the mode set with the WHITE BAL switch. When the Direct menu is in All mode, you can change the gain in steps of 3 dB with the Direct menu by operating the joystick or the jog dial. You can also select AGC mode with the Direct menu. When the Direct menu is in Part mode, you can switch between AGC and the gain selected with the GAIN switch _____ When the Direct menu is in Part mode, you cannot turn the shutter on/off with the Direct menu if the SHUTTER switch is set to ON. If the SHUTTER switch is set to OFF, only switching between Auto Shutter and Shutter OFF. The Direct menu cannot be selected when the camcorder is in Full Auto mode (page 33) or when the EX Slow Shutter mode is set to “On.” _____ All the above in the Manual. Translation - Change Direct Menu from ALL to PART

July 20th, 2009, 10:05 AM	#3
Chris Amana Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: australia Posts: 40	Craig Seeman great work ! Thankyou :) I will try this tommorow as I've just returned from a shoot and am knackered.. cheerio from OZ !

July 20th, 2009, 10:28 AM	#4
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	This is one of those examples were Sony spreads this all over the manual. It's kind of hard to find a single spot in the manual that says All does this, Part does this, Off does this, in a way most humans can understand. It's not even clear what the error message would be but you, and many others, have seen it of course.

July 20th, 2009, 10:39 PM	#6
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	So what happens if the direct menu is set to "Off", and what does "Direct menu or mode mean anyway?

July 21st, 2009, 12:50 AM	#7
Serena Steuart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Studio Alnitak, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 640 Images: 3	If you turn Direct Menu "off" then you can't change any menu settings without going into the menu. Of course all the controls work, but you can't use the joy-stick to, for example, change the PP or steady shot function.