EX1 Shoulder mount? at DVinfo.net

Nick Schale · July 6th, 2009, 11:13 AM

Does anyone have any recommendations for a shoulder mount for the EX1?

Thank you!
NIck

Craig Seeman · July 6th, 2009, 11:52 AM

I'm taking a serious look at this. It from Doug Jensen who has an excellent introduction DVD and printed Field Guides for EX1 and EX3.

Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training
I can't help but think he may be right about the other's being gimmicky (problematic).
I'm not keen on the rest on my belly hold my breath kind.
I don't like shoulder plus two hand old types. I want a hand free for camera adjustments.
Anton Bauer has one that looks interesting but people have issues with it's "unique" "links" design.

My concern about Doug's is balance and the possible need to use counter weights. Also the shoulder padding looks very thin and I'm concern how that feels. His other stuff is available at B&H (which is local to me) but apparently not the shoulder mount. Shoulder mounts are such a feel/fit think IMHO that I'd really like to try it.

My hope is that he'd explain that in more detail. He's on this forum so maybe he'll talk up his shoulder mount here.

Nick Schale · July 6th, 2009, 12:17 PM

Im not a huge fan of how that looks... and how it looks like it will 'feel'

Not to say it isnt a great piece of hardware.

Dose Redrock make anything that would work? Anyone tried that?

Craig Seeman · July 6th, 2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Schale

Im not a huge fan of how that looks... and how it looks like it will 'feel'
Not to say it isnt a great piece of hardware.
Dose Redrock make anything that would work? Anyone tried that?

Redrock microShoulderMount
and
http://www.redrockmicro.com/cartpics...ie_0084_lg.jpg
and
http://www.redrockmicro.com/cartpics...ie_0106_lg.jpg
It's two handed. It seems the hands need to handle the weight and I'm not sure about the counterweight.

This is really why I want to TRY and get feel first.

Craig Seeman · July 6th, 2009, 12:31 PM

RedRock demo video
Redrock microShoulderMount Overview
and tutorial video
Redrock microShouldermount Tutorial on Vimeo

Nick Schale · July 6th, 2009, 01:35 PM

Yup that was what i am looking for... Strongly considering buying this model!
Thanks guys!

Craig Seeman · July 6th, 2009, 02:01 PM

I wonder if we can get user reports of either. While it would be biased, I'd love to hear Doug Jensen's sales pitch comparison. I really wish I could try both. The end result is that I delay my purchase in a quandary.

BTW B&H and AbelCine carry neither.

Gareth Watkins · July 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Hi Nick
Found this the other day and while the Redrock this looks very interesting

http://www.vimeo.com/2369538areth

And the guy presenting it funny too...LOL
Regards
Gareth

Barry J. Weckesser · July 6th, 2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

I wonder if we can get user reports of either. While it would be biased, I'd love to hear Doug Jensen's sales pitch comparison. I really wish I could try both. The end result is that I delay my purchase in a quandary.

BTW B&H and AbelCine carry neither.

If you were going to use something like the Hoodman HoodLoupe 3.0 - HoodLoupe 3.0-Hoodman Corporation (they are actually coming out with an adaptor that fits the 3.5 LCD screen) which I have gotten used to for excellent focusing it doesn't look like the Vortex Media VSB1 would allow you to have your face up close enough to use this accessory - looks like it is all geared around the viewfinder and not close viewing (like 2" away) of the LCD screen. Using the Hoodman Wrist Shot - WristShot® Camcorder Support System-Hoodman Corporation and the Hood Loupe I was able to keep the camera going for some fairly long shots - it is not as stable as a shoulder mount would be but much better than totally hand held and frees your left hand up for manual adjustments of the camera.

Max Allen · July 6th, 2009, 04:52 PM

Personally I haven't come across anything better than the zacuto system. Pricey but lifetime warranty and camera agnostic. The anton bauer. If you're rolling on a shot with audio and you leave the links loose for mobility they will make noise as you move the camera. Its made of plastic, the locking system is unwieldy, the chest brace tends to lose shape also through a long shoot and you have to reset it. But it looks cool. Not a fan of anything that can't be taken off the shoulder quickly to compose a shot off the shoulder.

Olof Ekbergh · July 6th, 2009, 05:13 PM

Check this link:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olof Ekbergh

This is one of the configurations I have for my EX3.
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Michael Rigg · July 6th, 2009, 05:35 PM

I run the Red Rock shoulder mount with my EX1 and I like it a lot. I had to add an additional micro shoulder mount rod clamp to get the LCD far enough away from my eyes to focus (trifocals). The rig feels very much like a traditional ENG full size camera.

The Red Rock bits and pieces allow you to configure a multitude of camera supports. Using a micro shoulder mount rod clamp, two 4" rods, two 8" grip rods and two hand grips you have a very passable Figg Rig copy that breaks down very easily.

I like my system a lot. Your mileage may vary.

Best,

Mike

Ron Coker · July 6th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

I wonder if we can get user reports of either. While it would be biased, I'd love to hear Doug Jensen's sales pitch comparison. I really wish I could try both. The end result is that I delay my purchase in a quandary.

BTW B&H and AbelCine carry neither.

Craig,

I Imported this little gem to Australia. Resting place, garage machine-shop, scrap metal bin. The quality duralumin, handy for future projects no doubt ....

Ron.

Trevor Meeks · July 6th, 2009, 10:12 PM

LOVE my redrock - I use it with the bare camera as well as the M2e adapter.

David Herman · July 7th, 2009, 01:35 AM

must have posted this in another thread but here goes again because I am so pleased with simplicity that works incredibly well. The DM shoulder mount - prefer to something like Vortex because of the fact it strengthens the camera mount, a quick release onto a tiffen steadistick which cost $99. I have now shot two sessions of at least five hours and this almost sixty year old bod suffered zero fatigue. It is so steady that the only thing that screwed my first shoot was having steady shot on and my pans were tripod like smooth and so the picture is grabby. More pictures in "not so cheapo" thread

July 6th, 2009, 11:13 AM	#1
Nick Schale Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 72	EX1 Shoulder mount? Does anyone have any recommendations for a shoulder mount for the EX1? Thank you! NIck

July 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM	#8
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi Nick Found this the other day and while the Redrock this looks very interesting http://www.vimeo.com/2369538areth And the guy presenting it funny too...LOL Regards Gareth __________________ www.gwenllyn.com

July 7th, 2009, 01:35 AM	#15
David Herman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: gloucestershire uk Posts: 93	must have posted this in another thread but here goes again because I am so pleased with simplicity that works incredibly well. The DM shoulder mount - prefer to something like Vortex because of the fact it strengthens the camera mount, a quick release onto a tiffen steadistick which cost $99. I have now shot two sessions of at least five hours and this almost sixty year old bod suffered zero fatigue. It is so steady that the only thing that screwed my first shoot was having steady shot on and my pans were tripod like smooth and so the picture is grabby. More pictures in "not so cheapo" thread Attached Thumbnails Last edited by David Herman; July 7th, 2009 at 01:37 AM. Reason: to add info about other thread

July 6th, 2009, 11:52 AM	#2
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	I'm taking a serious look at this. It from Doug Jensen who has an excellent introduction DVD and printed Field Guides for EX1 and EX3. Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training I can't help but think he may be right about the other's being gimmicky (problematic). I'm not keen on the rest on my belly hold my breath kind. I don't like shoulder plus two hand old types. I want a hand free for camera adjustments. Anton Bauer has one that looks interesting but people have issues with it's "unique" "links" design. My concern about Doug's is balance and the possible need to use counter weights. Also the shoulder padding looks very thin and I'm concern how that feels. His other stuff is available at B&H (which is local to me) but apparently not the shoulder mount. Shoulder mounts are such a feel/fit think IMHO that I'd really like to try it. My hope is that he'd explain that in more detail. He's on this forum so maybe he'll talk up his shoulder mount here.

July 6th, 2009, 12:17 PM	#3
Nick Schale Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 72	Im not a huge fan of how that looks... and how it looks like it will 'feel' Not to say it isnt a great piece of hardware. Dose Redrock make anything that would work? Anyone tried that?

July 6th, 2009, 12:31 PM	#5
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	RedRock demo video Redrock microShoulderMount Overview and tutorial video Redrock microShouldermount Tutorial on Vimeo

July 6th, 2009, 01:35 PM	#6
Nick Schale Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 72	Yup that was what i am looking for... Strongly considering buying this model! Thanks guys!

July 6th, 2009, 02:01 PM	#7
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	I wonder if we can get user reports of either. While it would be biased, I'd love to hear Doug Jensen's sales pitch comparison. I really wish I could try both. The end result is that I delay my purchase in a quandary. BTW B&H and AbelCine carry neither.

July 6th, 2009, 04:52 PM	#10
Max Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NY Posts: 186	Personally I haven't come across anything better than the zacuto system. Pricey but lifetime warranty and camera agnostic. The anton bauer. If you're rolling on a shot with audio and you leave the links loose for mobility they will make noise as you move the camera. Its made of plastic, the locking system is unwieldy, the chest brace tends to lose shape also through a long shoot and you have to reset it. But it looks cool. Not a fan of anything that can't be taken off the shoulder quickly to compose a shot off the shoulder.

July 6th, 2009, 05:35 PM	#12
Michael Rigg Tourist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lafayette, Colorado Posts: 1	I run the Red Rock shoulder mount with my EX1 and I like it a lot. I had to add an additional micro shoulder mount rod clamp to get the LCD far enough away from my eyes to focus (trifocals). The rig feels very much like a traditional ENG full size camera. The Red Rock bits and pieces allow you to configure a multitude of camera supports. Using a micro shoulder mount rod clamp, two 4" rods, two 8" grip rods and two hand grips you have a very passable Figg Rig copy that breaks down very easily. I like my system a lot. Your mileage may vary. Best, Mike

July 6th, 2009, 10:12 PM	#14
Trevor Meeks Major Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sonoma, CA Posts: 336	LOVE my redrock - I use it with the bare camera as well as the M2e adapter.