Please help, EX1 + PremPro CS4.1 NO Preview while editing. at DVinfo.net

Nick Schale · June 2nd, 2009, 08:37 AM

So, I am wondering what is the best sequence settings for ex cam. I am having a ton of problems with cs4 and am thinking (PRAYING) it is a user error.

Project: 2hr long recital where we had three Sony EX-1 cameras. All shooting 1920x1080p (HQ). And there are two shows, but I'll edit them in different projects.

In CS3, I would start the project and just pull the footage in... no problem everything played fine. Then when I upgraded to CS4 it was CHOPPY to the point I could not edit.

Sequence Settings: General:

Editing Mode: Desktop. But was the EX1 1920x1080 hq by default... but that wasnt working. So far, Desktop is the only thing that has even let video show up... if I import only 25minutes of footage, it plays back smooth! NOTHING has worked like this, so is Desktop the way to go?

Video Previews: I-Frame Only MPEG
I really do think this is where the problem is. The video is killing me, audio plays back like a champ (if i turn off the video and press play). I dont know enough about this to know if I am correct or not. Should I do I-frame or AVI? and if AVI which Codec? Also, should i click max bit depth and render quality? i'd assume no for a preview.

Thanks a million for any help!!!

System
Dual Core 2 6600 (2.4GHz)
8 GB ddr2
64-bit vista prem
NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT
1.5 TB of storage
OS Drive is a Raptor 10k

I am on my way to work now to get CS3 to downgrade. /sigh.

Robert Young · June 2nd, 2009, 11:59 AM

I've seen lots and lots of complaints about this sort of thing on the Adobe Pro CS4 forum.
I'm using Vista 64/12 GB RAM/ Intel i7. My previewing of native EX1 HQ (MP4) and AVCHD is a little jerky, with "blocking" sort of artifact on motion when the preview quality is set to "automatic". If I set it to "high" the playback is much better.
I would rec you do a search on Adobe's Pro CS4 forum. If you don't find the solution, then post your problem over there. Lots of EX1/CS4 users are online there.
P.S.
I'm just using the default sequence settings for EX 1080 HQ.

Patrik Vale · June 3rd, 2009, 12:27 PM

I had the same problem when I had AMD Dual Core processor. Now I have Intel i7 and I tried the same project i was working on before and it`s playing smoothly. Maybe you should get better processor.

Nick Schale · June 11th, 2009, 10:37 AM

Original poster here.

My machine is NOT an i7 chip, it is a dual core 2, but has 8gig of ram and plenty of space....

SOOOOOO, i downgraded to CS3, installed the updates... and not only does it run SMOOTH AS SILK but it also runs smooth on my much weaker computer at work (2gig of ram!)

So the problem is CLEARLY CS4!
Which sucks because I am an adobe fanboy and love the cs4 suite otherwise!

Robert Young · June 11th, 2009, 12:33 PM

It seems quite clear that even after the 4.1 update, Pre CS4 still has serious flaws.
Hopefully these will be addressed more definitively in further updates.
The biggest dissappointment would be for Adobe to just move on to Pre CS5, leaving CS4 as a semi Beta project that falls well short of the standards of a professional NLE.

June 2nd, 2009, 08:37 AM	#1
Nick Schale Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 72	Please help, EX1 + PremPro CS4.1 NO Preview while editing. So, I am wondering what is the best sequence settings for ex cam. I am having a ton of problems with cs4 and am thinking (PRAYING) it is a user error. Project: 2hr long recital where we had three Sony EX-1 cameras. All shooting 1920x1080p (HQ). And there are two shows, but I'll edit them in different projects. In CS3, I would start the project and just pull the footage in... no problem everything played fine. Then when I upgraded to CS4 it was CHOPPY to the point I could not edit. Sequence Settings: General: Editing Mode: Desktop. But was the EX1 1920x1080 hq by default... but that wasnt working. So far, Desktop is the only thing that has even let video show up... if I import only 25minutes of footage, it plays back smooth! NOTHING has worked like this, so is Desktop the way to go? Video Previews: I-Frame Only MPEG I really do think this is where the problem is. The video is killing me, audio plays back like a champ (if i turn off the video and press play). I dont know enough about this to know if I am correct or not. Should I do I-frame or AVI? and if AVI which Codec? Also, should i click max bit depth and render quality? i'd assume no for a preview. Thanks a million for any help!!! System Dual Core 2 6600 (2.4GHz) 8 GB ddr2 64-bit vista prem NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 1.5 TB of storage OS Drive is a Raptor 10k I am on my way to work now to get CS3 to downgrade. /sigh.

June 2nd, 2009, 11:59 AM	#2
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	I've seen lots and lots of complaints about this sort of thing on the Adobe Pro CS4 forum. I'm using Vista 64/12 GB RAM/ Intel i7. My previewing of native EX1 HQ (MP4) and AVCHD is a little jerky, with "blocking" sort of artifact on motion when the preview quality is set to "automatic". If I set it to "high" the playback is much better. I would rec you do a search on Adobe's Pro CS4 forum. If you don't find the solution, then post your problem over there. Lots of EX1/CS4 users are online there. P.S. I'm just using the default sequence settings for EX 1080 HQ. __________________ Bob

June 11th, 2009, 12:33 PM	#5
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	It seems quite clear that even after the 4.1 update, Pre CS4 still has serious flaws. Hopefully these will be addressed more definitively in further updates. The biggest dissappointment would be for Adobe to just move on to Pre CS5, leaving CS4 as a semi Beta project that falls well short of the standards of a professional NLE. __________________ Bob

June 3rd, 2009, 12:27 PM	#3
Patrik Vale Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 50	I had the same problem when I had AMD Dual Core processor. Now I have Intel i7 and I tried the same project i was working on before and it`s playing smoothly. Maybe you should get better processor.

June 11th, 2009, 10:37 AM	#4
Nick Schale Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 72	Original poster here. My machine is NOT an i7 chip, it is a dual core 2, but has 8gig of ram and plenty of space.... SOOOOOO, i downgraded to CS3, installed the updates... and not only does it run SMOOTH AS SILK but it also runs smooth on my much weaker computer at work (2gig of ram!) So the problem is CLEARLY CS4! Which sucks because I am an adobe fanboy and love the cs4 suite otherwise!