EX3 & Working Solid State Drive (SSD)

Ross Herewini · June 3rd, 2009, 10:34 AM

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your post.

We have been working on an Expresscard to HDD and SSD via USB, with a SATA interface for a little while, and we will be announcing the product next Monday.

We’re just doing the artwork, and packaging and we are ready to release. I’d like to wait until Monday to give you the full technical specifications, so if you could hold your questions until then that would be help me actually get the artwork and packaging done!

It's quite something to be able to record for 5 hours without worrying about changing cards or even worse tapes. Reminds me of my Panasonic DV200, that could record 4h 45mins on one tape.

Stick an MxR with a Sandisk 32GB card in it and good to go for 7 hours without reaching for your production bag.

But really 7 hours! Too long to be standing.

Just a little teaser, you can elect to use your own HDD or SSD, so you aren't locked in. But obviously we have recommendations from the testing we have done.

I don't know about making a killing, that was never the goal, just produce well designed products, that I as a cameraman and editor would want to use, and make it at a reasonable price.

Best wishes
Ross Herewini
Efilms

Tuy Le · June 3rd, 2009, 12:03 PM

This is good news for end users.
Thanks to the "wonder minds" who spent time to check, to test and make it work.

Kevin Spahr · June 3rd, 2009, 09:04 PM

Ross, after buying some of your MxR cards, I'm really looking forward to this gem!
Thanks for your efforts, but you DO deserve to make some bucks for delivering the great products that make our job easier! We are saving money by buying your products.

Alex Dolgin · June 4th, 2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Herewini

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your post.

We have been working on an Expresscard to HDD and SSD via USB, with a SATA interface for a little while, and we will be announcing the product next Monday.

We’re just doing the artwork, and packaging and we are ready to release. I’d like to wait until Monday to give you the full technical specifications, so if you could hold your questions until then that would be help me actually get the artwork and packaging done!

It's quite something to be able to record for 5 hours without worrying about changing cards or even worse tapes. Reminds me of my Panasonic DV200, that could record 4h 45mins on one tape.

Stick an MxR with a Sandisk 32GB card in it and good to go for 7 hours without reaching for your production bag.

But really 7 hours! Too long to be standing.

Just a little teaser, you can elect to use your own HDD or SSD, so you aren't locked in. But obviously we have recommendations from the testing we have done.

I don't know about making a killing, that was never the goal, just produce well designed products, that I as a cameraman and editor would want to use, and make it at a reasonable price.

Best wishes
Ross Herewini
Efilms

Hey Ross, are you also addressing the 5V power issue, or strictly interface?

Ned Soltz · June 6th, 2009, 07:19 AM

Ross

Please get me a press release when you announce so that I can get that to my editors. Would love to get you some coverage.

And I'm looking forward to purchasing....

Ned Soltz

Barry J. Anwender · June 8th, 2009, 03:36 PM

I have completed the mount of my SSD and its Battery supply on the DeMaagd EX3 Shoulder Mount. I used the existing tapped holes on the Shoulder Mount. It allows easy removal of the SSD for off-loading. The SSD Battery supply can also feed power to the EX3 as well as power the SSD with the necessary 5-volts. One approach of many possibilities that none-the-less fits my needs.

Robert Musiello · June 11th, 2009, 02:05 PM

Can someone post the pinout for the usb cable to the reader
4 usb wires
white
red
black
ground

Can't see the placement on Barry's photos

Robert Musiello · June 11th, 2009, 02:07 PM

sorry these are the usb cable wires
white
green
red
black
ground

Barry J. Anwender · June 11th, 2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Musiello

sorry these are the usb cable wires
white
green
red
black
ground

Robert, click on the second photo and it opens a new window in full size and easy to read. Page 2, post #26. The red wire (+5v) is not connected to the camera side. Cheers!

Robert Musiello · June 11th, 2009, 04:28 PM

Thanks Barry
The large silver wire gets soldered to where?
And last Question
Can you run two of these at the same time to two drives?
Bob

Barry J. Anwender · June 11th, 2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Musiello

Thanks Barry
The large silver wire gets soldered to where?
And last Question
Can you run two of these at the same time to two drives?
Bob

The silver wire is called the sheath and it goes to ground. I drilled a small hole through the ground plane, just enough to thread the silver/sheath wire through and then back onto itself - soldered the end to close the loop. Then you have strain relief protection if the USB cable is pulled upon. It keeps the smaller wires from having to take any strain.

Yes, you can indeed run to drives in the exact same way as you do with SXS/etc. memory cards. One drive fills up and automatically switches over to the other, just the memory cards do. So that would be whopping 10.2 hours of record capacity. No memory card to fiddle with-get mixed up-or loose. Bonus is that the SSD off-loads 5.1hrs of video by eSATA in 14 minutes. Cheers!

Ray Bell · June 11th, 2009, 07:17 PM

Will this work with the EX1 ?? I think the memory doors maybe different between the EX1
and the EX3 ???

Robert Musiello · June 11th, 2009, 07:56 PM

Barry
I had soldered it to the #1 on the opposite side.. is this wrong
I had read this in an earlier post...

Barry J. Anwender · June 11th, 2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell

Will this work with the EX1 ?? I think the memory doors maybe different between the EX1
and the EX3 ???

Yes, it does work in the EX1 as reported so on the other forum by the good folks down-under. Choose a card that fits in the EX1 and do the mods to fit it with a USB cable. The EX1 does not have that little slot that the EX3 has for a cable to come out of the ExpressCard slot.

Barry J. Anwender · June 11th, 2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Musiello

Barry
I had soldered it to the #1 on the opposite side.. is this wrong
I had read this in an earlier post...

Pin 1 on the ExpressCard bus is ground. As you can clearly see on the daughterboard there are other pins corresponding to ground, just follow the ground plane to identify those. Cheers!

June 3rd, 2009, 10:34 AM	#61
Ross Herewini Sponsor: eFilms (MxR) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 171	Hi Stuart, Thanks for your post. We have been working on an Expresscard to HDD and SSD via USB, with a SATA interface for a little while, and we will be announcing the product next Monday. We’re just doing the artwork, and packaging and we are ready to release. I’d like to wait until Monday to give you the full technical specifications, so if you could hold your questions until then that would be help me actually get the artwork and packaging done! It's quite something to be able to record for 5 hours without worrying about changing cards or even worse tapes. Reminds me of my Panasonic DV200, that could record 4h 45mins on one tape. Stick an MxR with a Sandisk 32GB card in it and good to go for 7 hours without reaching for your production bag. But really 7 hours! Too long to be standing. Just a little teaser, you can elect to use your own HDD or SSD, so you aren't locked in. But obviously we have recommendations from the testing we have done. I don't know about making a killing, that was never the goal, just produce well designed products, that I as a cameraman and editor would want to use, and make it at a reasonable price. Best wishes Ross Herewini Efilms __________________ Ross Herewini - E-films Makers of the new MxR Extreme

June 8th, 2009, 03:36 PM	#66
Barry J. Anwender Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 382	SSD EX3 Mount I have completed the mount of my SSD and its Battery supply on the DeMaagd EX3 Shoulder Mount. I used the existing tapped holes on the Shoulder Mount. It allows easy removal of the SSD for off-loading. The SSD Battery supply can also feed power to the EX3 as well as power the SSD with the necessary 5-volts. One approach of many possibilities that none-the-less fits my needs. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Barry J. Anwender; June 8th, 2009 at 05:05 PM.

June 3rd, 2009, 12:03 PM	#62
Tuy Le Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 96	This is good news for end users. Thanks to the "wonder minds" who spent time to check, to test and make it work.

June 3rd, 2009, 09:04 PM	#63
Kevin Spahr Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 451	Ross, after buying some of your MxR cards, I'm really looking forward to this gem! Thanks for your efforts, but you DO deserve to make some bucks for delivering the great products that make our job easier! We are saving money by buying your products.

June 6th, 2009, 07:19 AM	#65
Ned Soltz Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 659	Ross Please get me a press release when you announce so that I can get that to my editors. Would love to get you some coverage. And I'm looking forward to purchasing.... Ned Soltz

June 11th, 2009, 02:05 PM	#67
Robert Musiello Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 143	Can someone post the pinout for the usb cable to the reader 4 usb wires white red black ground Can't see the placement on Barry's photos

June 11th, 2009, 02:07 PM	#68
Robert Musiello Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 143	sorry these are the usb cable wires white green red black ground

June 11th, 2009, 04:28 PM	#70
Robert Musiello Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 143	Thanks Barry The large silver wire gets soldered to where? And last Question Can you run two of these at the same time to two drives? Bob

June 11th, 2009, 07:17 PM	#72
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Will this work with the EX1 ?? I think the memory doors maybe different between the EX1 and the EX3 ???

June 11th, 2009, 07:56 PM	#73
Robert Musiello Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 143	Barry I had soldered it to the #1 on the opposite side.. is this wrong I had read this in an earlier post...