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April 16th, 2009, 07:32 AM
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Express Card to CF-adapter works in EX1?
I have a Sony HVR-Z7, working woth compact flash cards. I'm thinking of buying an EX1, but I would like to use CF-cards in that cam as well. I know there are several adapters on the market to put CF-cards in a Express Card slot, but do these work in the EX1? I mean mostly mechanically: doesn't the whole set-up protrude too much out of the camera's body, making it too vulnerable?
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April 16th, 2009, 07:36 AM
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The adaptors are not for cf cards, they're for sdhc cards, and no the combination does not stick out of the EX1 slot if you use the mxr adaptor, if you use the kensington adaptor the combination does stick out. Both adaptors are very reliable, especially if used with the transcend sdhc class 6 cards.
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April 16th, 2009, 09:32 AM
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I don't think anyone has tried the CF/Express card setup. I have seen them out there, but have no idea if they would work.
Having something that large sticking out of my camera would make me concerned too. The only way I know of is to use the Convergent Design nanoFlash or Flash XDR recorders. HDV To HD-SDI Video Converters Professional Video Equipment HDMI To HD-SDI Television Studio Equipment They bypass the onboard compressor and allow you to record 4:2:2 via SDI to their CF recording boxes. Not cheap, but the quality bump is worth it in my opinion.
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April 16th, 2009, 09:35 AM
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Thanks Paul & James, I'll look into these two possibilities. Still, it would be nice if I could have the same workflow as with the Z7's CF-cards. If anyone has tried it, please let me know.
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April 16th, 2009, 10:10 AM
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April 16th, 2009, 10:12 AM
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Are you dissatisfied with MPEG2-Long-GOP material from two varying cameras? I think it is a very satisfying situation to capture, edit and cut these source materials on one and the same computer. Best. P. |
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April 16th, 2009, 11:46 AM
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Yes, I realise that now, as long as I can use the 'log & transfer' workflow, it doesn't really matter if I have to load a CF-card or a SDHC-card in my reader.
The next important question is then: is at feasible - qualitywise - to mix clips of the two cameras in one project? Or is the gap between the quality of 1/3-inch and 1/2-inch sensors that wide that mixed editing is out of the question? |
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April 16th, 2009, 01:07 PM
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April 16th, 2009, 03:31 PM
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April 16th, 2009, 03:34 PM
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April 16th, 2009, 06:26 PM
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I have the Sonnet Express34 CF adapter.
It does not fit in either my EX-1 or EX-3 so it is kind of moot whether it would work. Ned Soltz |
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April 17th, 2009, 12:32 AM
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April 17th, 2009, 05:10 AM
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The advantage to using the Flash XDR or the nanoFlash is in being able to record very high quality 4:2:2 images, using the full raster (1920 x 1080) that an EX1/EX3 produces but is not able to record. The Sony EX1/EX3 record 4:2:0 images at 35 Mbps. The difference between 4:2:0 and 4:2:2 can be dramatic, especially for film-out and other situations where the highest quality output is expected. Another advantage is that with 100 Mbps Long-GOP, the codec can handle extremely detailed images and even lots of motion in the image or the camera. At 35 Mbps, there are cases where image artifacts can occur. The Flash XDR and nanoFlash record 4:2:2 at your choice of 50 or 100 Mbps (Long-GOP), and 100, 140 and 160 Mbps (I-Frame Only - Intraframe Compression). We also offer 4:2:0 at 35 Mbps. And we record to very low-cost CompactFlash Cards. A Kingston 32 GB Elite Pro CompactFlash card is currently under $60 at B&H. (Disclaimer: I am the Director of Sales and Marketing for Convergent Design.)
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April 17th, 2009, 06:12 AM
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Dear Dan,
I'm still waiting for the long promised MXF samples from the FlashXDR, recorded with an EX camera :) Best Regards Piotr
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