Purchasing a New XDCAM HD Ex-1 at DVinfo.net

Akbar Ukani · March 24th, 2009, 10:51 AM

Hi All,

I am interested in purchasing the new xdcam ex1. I just have a few questions before I decide to go ahead with the purchase

- Can anyone tell me how many SxS cards are supplied with the camera? (this way I'd know if I need to purchase an additional card)

- also, does anyone have links where I can view sample clips shot by the XDcam?

Are there any particular drawbacks with the camera that I should consider before making the purchase? Thanks

March 24th, 2009, 11:10 AM

Just back from a demo. In Uk you get one 8Gb flash the cash card. Gives about 21 minutes at top 35MBps HQ res.

Chris Hurd · March 24th, 2009, 11:10 AM

Posted to XDCAM HD -- moved to XDCAM EX.

We have an entire forum dedicated to EX sample clips:

EX Series Sample Clips - The Digital Video Information Network

Hope this helps,

Piotr Wozniacki · March 24th, 2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Digedig

In Uk you get one 8Gb flash the cash card. Gives about 21 minutes at top 35MBps HQ res.

It's 28 mins, not 21.

George Thompson · March 24th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Buy the EX1 before the 31st and get $500 cash back .
I got one last week. That helped me decide a little faster.
http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/ext/onli...promotion.html

Doug Jensen · March 24th, 2009, 12:22 PM

Hi Akbar,

All of your questions, and more, are answered here.
What's So Great about XDCAM EX?

Please give it a minute to start loading.

Buba Kastorski · March 25th, 2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akbar Ukani

this way I'd know if I need to purchase an additional card

don't buy any, MxR SDHC solution makes EX series even better if not the best camera choice.

Brian Barkley · March 25th, 2009, 07:56 AM

I would not consider the EX-1 . . . the EX-3 has interchangeable lenses, a great little built in monitor, and so much more. It is much more the professional camera.

Adam Reuter · March 25th, 2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Barkley

I would not consider the EX-1 . . . the EX-3 has interchangeable lenses, a great little built in monitor, and so much more. It is much more the professional camera.

Which makes sense because it's much more the price ;-)

Akbar Ukani · March 25th, 2009, 10:37 AM

For doing wedding events, i cannot justify the cost of spending 2000 dollars more on EX3 when the end result is going to be the same.....I could buy a couple of SxS cards with that money or better yet buy a stabilizer system.....

Just curious about the 500 dollars cash back Sony is offering...how is that going to work...i am going to buy the camera today from B&H photo and video and I have just registered for the virtual trade show?

Bob Jackson · March 25th, 2009, 10:55 AM

The Ex1 is a very fine camera.
Do you really need interchangable lenses.
I only once used them on my betacam.
The ex1 is not that bad to hand hold.
Takes some practice.
Get a few MxR or whatever they are called today.
Some sample clips of handheld:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/ex-series...ng-sample.html

Tuy Le · March 25th, 2009, 03:03 PM

Even better - instead of buy an EX3, I can buy an EX1 + Sachtler DV6 SL Carbon fiber tripod ... (if you don't need to change the lense)

Paul Chiu · March 25th, 2009, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akbar Ukani

Hi All,

I am interested in purchasing the new xdcam ex1. I just have a few questions before I decide to go ahead with the purchase

- Can anyone tell me how many SxS cards are supplied with the camera? (this way I'd know if I need to purchase an additional card)

- also, does anyone have links where I can view sample clips shot by the XDcam?

Are there any particular drawbacks with the camera that I should consider before making the purchase? Thanks

it's supplied with 1 8gb card and as far as i know, there is no promotion for a free card at this time with either the PMW-EX1 or PMW-EX3.

there is a $500 rebate if you buy a 32gb card which is about $1450 before the $500 rebate.
so, at $950, that's far better than the $450 for the 8gb or $750 for the 16gb cards at the moment.

since i bought my EX1 a year ago, the 16gb card has dropped about $300 each. a lot but not the 50% many here thought may happen. (including me)

i now have two 16gb cards and two 8gb cards whenever i go anywhere with my EX1
this way, i really don't feel the need to bring my macbook pro along anymore.

i have also used both the EX1 and EX3 extensively and because of the pricing difference, favors the EX1.

at the form factor of the EX1, I can actually use it on the go filming without support or harness, making for really cheap 1080/30p acquisition.

here is one sample where i recorded youngsters at a school trip.
all in 1080/30p and processed with iMovie08
(no external lighting used in the indoors and subway scenes....)

YouTube - PS196 Ellis Island & Statue of Liberty Trip, Filmed with Sony PMW-EX1

for indoor shots, the EX1 can be cropped away for 720p distribution without much problems. certainly better than the 1080 upsampling from HDV footage as broadcasters still do.

here is one stage shot where i cropped heavily for effects.
using iMovie 09 which now handles 1080 material from PMW-EX1 or XDCAM-EX for that matter, very well.

YouTube - PS196 does Rumba and the Waltz - Ball Room Dancing by Larocca 5th Graders in HD 720p (Sony PMW-EX1)

for studio work.
i kind of like sachtler's heads but not so much their legs.

here's my EX1 on DV8/100 and Gitzo carbon legs.
this setup allows for a lot of add ons and ease of transport.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachmen...8-img_0372.jpg

One last point, this is a professional cam serviceable internally without trips to the sony pro labs. once i had to remap the sensor grids as some pixels were not firing properly. all that was needed was about 40 minutes of step by step instructions to fire up the ill functioning cluster and everything was back on line. making for quick recovery and no shelf time. terrific.

paul

Akbar Ukani · March 31st, 2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Jensen

Hi Akbar,

All of your questions, and more, are answered here.
What's So Great about XDCAM EX?

Please give it a minute to start loading.

I finally got it!!!....I actually bought the camera EX1 and your DVD from B&H and I have to tell you that I watched the entire 3 hours in one sitting....Good Job with the DVD...definitely worth the $99+$4 shipping from B&H instead of $125+shipping via USPS....hehe j/k =)....btw since Sony wasn't sponsoring it then you could have mentioned alternatives to the SxS cards....will watch it again and get my hands dirty on the camera at the same time now.......

the only thing I don't like about the camera is the fact that it's too heavy to be a hand-held unit...my wrist started to hurt after 10 minutes of continuous holding.....must get stabilizer soon =)...any suggestions would be much appreciated

Danny Dale · March 31st, 2009, 05:34 PM

If you're looking for extra cards, I would HIGHLY recommend the MxR alternative (with SanDisk or Transcend SD cards) to SxS. They work great and are so much cheaper. The only limitation is that they can only overcrank to 48fps. If you need to do 60fps, then just use the free 8gig SxS in the B slot and after you record the clip, you can transfer the 60fps clip from the SxS card to the MxR card in camera. Also, the price will drop on these SD cards (currently $30-$35) and they can be used as your hard copy backup. You can get about 58 minutes of HQ 1080 24P on a 16 gig SD card.

March 24th, 2009, 10:51 AM	#1
Akbar Ukani Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 69	Purchasing a New XDCAM HD Ex-1 Hi All, I am interested in purchasing the new xdcam ex1. I just have a few questions before I decide to go ahead with the purchase - Can anyone tell me how many SxS cards are supplied with the camera? (this way I'd know if I need to purchase an additional card) - also, does anyone have links where I can view sample clips shot by the XDcam? Are there any particular drawbacks with the camera that I should consider before making the purchase? Thanks

March 24th, 2009, 11:10 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Posted to XDCAM HD -- moved to XDCAM EX. We have an entire forum dedicated to EX sample clips: EX Series Sample Clips - The Digital Video Information Network Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 25th, 2009, 10:55 AM	#11
Bob Jackson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Republic of Vancouver Island Posts: 200	The Ex1 is a very fine camera. Do you really need interchangable lenses. I only once used them on my betacam. The ex1 is not that bad to hand hold. Takes some practice. Get a few MxR or whatever they are called today. Some sample clips of handheld: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/ex-series...ng-sample.html __________________ Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. AC Clarke Last edited by Bob Jackson; March 25th, 2009 at 10:57 AM. Reason: add sample clips

March 24th, 2009, 11:10 AM	#2
Ben Jones Posts: n/a	Just back from a demo. In Uk you get one 8Gb flash the cash card. Gives about 21 minutes at top 35MBps HQ res.

March 24th, 2009, 11:36 AM	#5
George Thompson New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cortlandt Manor, NY Posts: 10	Buy the EX1 before the 31st and get $500 cash back . I got one last week. That helped me decide a little faster. http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/ext/onli...promotion.html

March 24th, 2009, 12:22 PM	#6
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,442	Hi Akbar, All of your questions, and more, are answered here. What's So Great about XDCAM EX? Please give it a minute to start loading.

March 25th, 2009, 07:56 AM	#8
Brian Barkley Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 233	I would not consider the EX-1 . . . the EX-3 has interchangeable lenses, a great little built in monitor, and so much more. It is much more the professional camera.

March 25th, 2009, 10:37 AM	#10
Akbar Ukani Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 69	For doing wedding events, i cannot justify the cost of spending 2000 dollars more on EX3 when the end result is going to be the same.....I could buy a couple of SxS cards with that money or better yet buy a stabilizer system..... Just curious about the 500 dollars cash back Sony is offering...how is that going to work...i am going to buy the camera today from B&H photo and video and I have just registered for the virtual trade show?

March 25th, 2009, 03:03 PM	#12
Tuy Le Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 96	Even better - instead of buy an EX3, I can buy an EX1 + Sachtler DV6 SL Carbon fiber tripod ... (if you don't need to change the lense)

March 31st, 2009, 05:34 PM	#15
Danny Dale Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 56	If you're looking for extra cards, I would HIGHLY recommend the MxR alternative (with SanDisk or Transcend SD cards) to SxS. They work great and are so much cheaper. The only limitation is that they can only overcrank to 48fps. If you need to do 60fps, then just use the free 8gig SxS in the B slot and after you record the clip, you can transfer the 60fps clip from the SxS card to the MxR card in camera. Also, the price will drop on these SD cards (currently $30-$35) and they can be used as your hard copy backup. You can get about 58 minutes of HQ 1080 24P on a 16 gig SD card.