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Ed Kukla · February 3rd, 2009, 01:38 PM

If I go with EX, I'll want some edit capability. I won't need a lot as I don't really edit, only shoot. But I'll want to have some capability for the occasional small project.

I'd like to use my existing laptop. It's Win XP with dual 1.66 GHZ processors and 2 G of ram. I think I can bump the RAM up to 4 gigs. I have every slot known to man on this laptop! so I think I can injest the cards and feed external drives.

The premiere package seems to want a lot more processor than I have. What other edit software should I consider?
Again, I don't need the latest, fastest, geewiz edit system. I couldn't use it if I tried, I'm not an editor.

Thanks

Ed

Matt San · February 3rd, 2009, 01:41 PM

you will love MPEG editor and DVD editor - Womble Multimedia, Inc. then

practically runs on a 486!

also loves MPEG files and does smart rendering - if u do basic fades etc you will have a DVD burn in no time

Jay Gladwell · February 3rd, 2009, 01:47 PM

You're situation is somewhat of a paradox--You want to use an EX camera, but you want to use a system that really is isn't suitable for the EX camera footage.

I'd suggest you either select another camera or understand that regardless of how little editing you think you're going to do with the EX, you'll need more computing power.

Andrew Hollister · February 3rd, 2009, 02:45 PM

Get a copy of Sony Vegas, knowing you'll be dealing with some render time.

Also know that you'll eventually be getting another computer and your work flow will get a little faster.

Doug Jensen · February 3rd, 2009, 02:47 PM

Hi Ed,

Long time no speak. What do mean "IF"??? There's no "if" about it, you must get XDCAM EX.

If you're interested in learning more about the XDCAM EX workflow and the differences between the EX1 and EX3, you might be interested in a video (basically a Powerpoint presentation) I put together a couple of months ago.
Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training

This is NOT a training a video, nor is it meant to be a substitute for my 3-hour training DVDs, but it does a answer a lot of questions that many potential XDCAM EX buyers have. Although your question is not addressed dirctly, I'm sure you'll get some good information from it.

Ivan Snoeckx · February 3rd, 2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Jensen

If you're interested in learning more about the XDCAM EX workflow and the differences between the EX1 and EX3, you might be interested in a video (basically a Powerpoint presentation) I put together a couple of months ago.
Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training

This is NOT a training a video, nor is it meant to be a substitute for my 3-hour training DVDs, but it does a answer a lot of questions that many potential XDCAM EX buyers have. Although your question is not addressed dirctly, I'm sure you'll get some good information from it.

Hi Doug,

That's a very nice presentation you have putted together about Sony's EX camcorders.

Keep up the good work!

Ed Kukla · February 4th, 2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hollister

Get a copy of Sony Vegas, knowing you'll be dealing with some render time.

Also know that you'll eventually be getting another computer and your work flow will get a little faster.

Andrew

I take it that vegas will perform better with my limited system than other nle's?
But it will handle the full HQ footage but with some render times?
An idea of how slow my system will work with basic editing, no animation or compositing?

Thanks

Ed

Mick Haensler · February 4th, 2009, 03:40 PM

You might want to look at Speededit by Newtek. When I first got my EX I was working at a place that used Speededit and even without the wrapper they now have for EX footage, I could edit in real time. Worth a looksee.

Mick Haensler
Higher Ground Media

Doug Jensen · February 4th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Ed,

You might want to try this:
Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training

It's a DVD that Sony should have produced themselves and given away for free, but they didn't. Nobody else did either, so I did.

You'll be able to test the whole workflow except for figuring out how long it will take to ingest the footage from a real SxS card. The DVD-ROM isn't going to give you an accurate estimate of real import speeds. Other than that, it will give you a good indication of how easy or hard the EX footage will be for YOUR system to handle. No two edit systems are the same, so no matter what someone else tells you, you have to take it with a grain of salt until you can test it yourself.

Doug

Geoff Addis · February 5th, 2009, 05:10 AM

I have found Edius 5.01 provides the best real time and fastest rendering of any NLE software.

February 3rd, 2009, 01:38 PM	#1
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	which edit system? If I go with EX, I'll want some edit capability. I won't need a lot as I don't really edit, only shoot. But I'll want to have some capability for the occasional small project. I'd like to use my existing laptop. It's Win XP with dual 1.66 GHZ processors and 2 G of ram. I think I can bump the RAM up to 4 gigs. I have every slot known to man on this laptop! so I think I can injest the cards and feed external drives. The premiere package seems to want a lot more processor than I have. What other edit software should I consider? Again, I don't need the latest, fastest, geewiz edit system. I couldn't use it if I tried, I'm not an editor. Thanks Ed

February 3rd, 2009, 02:45 PM	#4
Andrew Hollister Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 198	Get a copy of Sony Vegas, knowing you'll be dealing with some render time. Also know that you'll eventually be getting another computer and your work flow will get a little faster. __________________ Sony EX1 v1.11, crap loads of SxS, Macs w/ Final Cut Studio

February 3rd, 2009, 01:41 PM	#2
Matt San Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wales UK Posts: 121	you will love MPEG editor and DVD editor - Womble Multimedia, Inc. then practically runs on a 486! also loves MPEG files and does smart rendering - if u do basic fades etc you will have a DVD burn in no time

February 3rd, 2009, 01:47 PM	#3
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	You're situation is somewhat of a paradox--You want to use an EX camera, but you want to use a system that really is isn't suitable for the EX camera footage. I'd suggest you either select another camera or understand that regardless of how little editing you think you're going to do with the EX, you'll need more computing power.

February 3rd, 2009, 02:47 PM	#5
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Hi Ed, Long time no speak. What do mean "IF"??? There's no "if" about it, you must get XDCAM EX. If you're interested in learning more about the XDCAM EX workflow and the differences between the EX1 and EX3, you might be interested in a video (basically a Powerpoint presentation) I put together a couple of months ago. Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training This is NOT a training a video, nor is it meant to be a substitute for my 3-hour training DVDs, but it does a answer a lot of questions that many potential XDCAM EX buyers have. Although your question is not addressed dirctly, I'm sure you'll get some good information from it.

February 4th, 2009, 03:40 PM	#8
Mick Haensler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 122	You might want to look at Speededit by Newtek. When I first got my EX I was working at a place that used Speededit and even without the wrapper they now have for EX footage, I could edit in real time. Worth a looksee. Mick Haensler Higher Ground Media

February 4th, 2009, 05:49 PM	#9
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Ed, You might want to try this: Vortex Media: VIDEO & PHOTO Tools and Training It's a DVD that Sony should have produced themselves and given away for free, but they didn't. Nobody else did either, so I did. You'll be able to test the whole workflow except for figuring out how long it will take to ingest the footage from a real SxS card. The DVD-ROM isn't going to give you an accurate estimate of real import speeds. Other than that, it will give you a good indication of how easy or hard the EX footage will be for YOUR system to handle. No two edit systems are the same, so no matter what someone else tells you, you have to take it with a grain of salt until you can test it yourself. Doug

February 5th, 2009, 05:10 AM	#10
Geoff Addis Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 116	I have found Edius 5.01 provides the best real time and fastest rendering of any NLE software.