suggested sharpening settngs for EX1 at DVinfo.net

Clark Peters · January 20th, 2009, 08:50 PM

I have been using a variety of Detail On settings on my EX1 (level, frequency, crispening, and knee aperture).

Most of the time I get better results that way than I have adding the sharpening in Vegas. However, I would like to be able to turn Detail Off for situations that aren't as controlled, then add Sharpening in Vegas.

Does anyone have any suggestions about which fx to use, and particular settings?

Thanks.
Pete

Richard Jones · January 21st, 2009, 05:23 AM

In my admittedly limited experience I haven' t found Sharpening to be particularly effective. The Unsharp Mask is rather better but it still can't cure a blurred or seriously out of focus shot. Have I been missing something? And surely it's better and safer to get the picture right at the taking stage or am I missing something here as well?

Regards,

Richard

Paul Kellett · January 21st, 2009, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Peters

I have been using a variety of Detail On settings on my EX1 (level, frequency, crispening, and knee aperture).

Most of the time I get better results that way than I have adding the sharpening in Vegas. However, I would like to be able to turn Detail Off for situations that aren't as controlled, then add Sharpening in Vegas.

Does anyone have any suggestions about which fx to use, and particular settings?

Thanks.
Pete

Turning detail off means that you can't use the other features such as crispening, which is handy for reducing noise. If you mean you just want to do away with the actual "sharpening" part of detail then you could leave detail on but lower it to -25 which is the same as detail off, that way you still have access to crispening.

Paul.

Clark Peters · January 21st, 2009, 12:59 PM

Hey Paul,

I'm doing that now. I have been using a setting of 0 for level, frequency 30, crispening 30, knee aperture -30. That works pretty well for most things, giving just a touch of clarity that seems to be lacking in unprocessed. Less noisy than what I have been able to do in Vegas.

However, I have noticed some small haloing in extreme situations. That's why I was looking for a Vegas sharpening solution to use. If in doubt, I could turn Detail off and depend on Vegas. I am accustomed to unsharp mask in Photoshop, but the Vegas settings are different and I am having trouble getting a look that seems worth doing.

Pete

Paul Kellett · January 21st, 2009, 02:20 PM

Detail level set to 0 is not the same as detail off, detail at -25 is the same as off.
Stupid i think, i think detail on and set to 0 should have no effect, then going to level 1 would add a bit of detail sharpening, then 2 then 3 etc.

Paul.

Clark Peters · January 21st, 2009, 05:53 PM

I think my question has been misunderstood. I originally posted this in the Vegas forum and didn't realize it had been moved.

I'm NOT looking for Detail settings in EX1 Picture Profiles.

I am looking for Vegas settings. Which FXs are people using in Vegas if they aren't using Detail settings within the camera?

Pete

Scott Hayes · January 21st, 2009, 07:40 PM

i think you will find these settings are what you want. I find I have to add sharpen
in FCP to get the results I feel I should be getting in camera, at least compared to
what I have read about the sick image quality this camera is suppose to have.

January 20th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#1
Clark Peters Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 123	suggested sharpening settngs for EX1 I have been using a variety of Detail On settings on my EX1 (level, frequency, crispening, and knee aperture). Most of the time I get better results that way than I have adding the sharpening in Vegas. However, I would like to be able to turn Detail Off for situations that aren't as controlled, then add Sharpening in Vegas. Does anyone have any suggestions about which fx to use, and particular settings? Thanks. Pete

January 21st, 2009, 05:23 AM	#2
Richard Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Woking, England Posts: 116	suggested sharpening settngs for EX1 In my admittedly limited experience I haven' t found Sharpening to be particularly effective. The Unsharp Mask is rather better but it still can't cure a blurred or seriously out of focus shot. Have I been missing something? And surely it's better and safer to get the picture right at the taking stage or am I missing something here as well? Regards, Richard

January 21st, 2009, 02:20 PM	#5
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	Detail level set to 0 is not the same as detail off, detail at -25 is the same as off. Stupid i think, i think detail on and set to 0 should have no effect, then going to level 1 would add a bit of detail sharpening, then 2 then 3 etc. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

January 21st, 2009, 12:59 PM	#4
Clark Peters Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 123	Hey Paul, I'm doing that now. I have been using a setting of 0 for level, frequency 30, crispening 30, knee aperture -30. That works pretty well for most things, giving just a touch of clarity that seems to be lacking in unprocessed. Less noisy than what I have been able to do in Vegas. However, I have noticed some small haloing in extreme situations. That's why I was looking for a Vegas sharpening solution to use. If in doubt, I could turn Detail off and depend on Vegas. I am accustomed to unsharp mask in Photoshop, but the Vegas settings are different and I am having trouble getting a look that seems worth doing. Pete

January 21st, 2009, 05:53 PM	#6
Clark Peters Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 123	I think my question has been misunderstood. I originally posted this in the Vegas forum and didn't realize it had been moved. I'm NOT looking for Detail settings in EX1 Picture Profiles. I am looking for Vegas settings. Which FXs are people using in Vegas if they aren't using Detail settings within the camera? Pete

January 21st, 2009, 07:40 PM	#7
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	i think you will find these settings are what you want. I find I have to add sharpen in FCP to get the results I feel I should be getting in camera, at least compared to what I have read about the sick image quality this camera is suppose to have.