MxR Expresscard Reader moves from final QC to Shipping

Craig Seeman · January 11th, 2009, 11:05 AM

But think of the hurdles.

PCMCIA interface would have little use beyond P2 and older computers
DVCProHD is 100mbps compared to XDCAM 35mbps. It seems Convergent Design can handle 100mbps using Flash cards though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Herewini

Hi John,

What's P2?

Only joking....

That's a great idea, we'll have a look to see if there is something we can do, but we have a few announcements coming up in the EX1 area first....

Chris Norman · January 12th, 2009, 04:33 AM

I use an imac .. no PCI Express slot & have been frustrated unloading large files from 16 GB Ultra ll cards via DigiCard USB SD reader.

So recently took a punt & ordered a MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 - USB ExpressCard 34|54 Adapter to try with MxR adapters with Sandisk 16 GB Ultra ll cards.

Works a treat - plug in MXR with Ultra ll card .. very much faster than the SD reader - currently $34 US from: PC Card, ExpressCard, and FireWire Devices, Synchrotech

Craig Seeman · January 12th, 2009, 10:37 AM

Can you be more specific? I use Sandisk 12 in 1 reader for SDHC and I get 2x with ClipBrowser CRC on and 4x with CRC off. I can't imagine getting much faster than 4x.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Norman

I use an imac .. no PCI Express slot & have been frustrated unloading large files from 16 GB Ultra ll cards via DigiCard USB SD reader.

So recently took a punt & ordered a MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 - USB ExpressCard 34|54 Adapter to try with MxR adapters with Sandisk 16 GB Ultra ll cards.

Works a treat - plug in MXR with Ultra ll card .. very much faster than the SD reader - currently $34 US from: PC Card, ExpressCard, and FireWire Devices, Synchrotech

Chris Norman · January 12th, 2009, 03:43 PM

Using MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 - USB ExpressCard 34|54 Adapter with MxR, I timed transfer of 3.87 GB file - 210 seconds = Approximately 18.42 MB per second.

Craig Seeman · January 12th, 2009, 04:08 PM

With or without CRC checking in ClipBrowser?

That's about the same speed I'm getting with my Sandisk 12 in 1 reader with CRC off. That's about 4x.

Sandisk ImageMate 12-in-1 Reader Writer SDDR89A15 in Flash Memory Card Readers at JR.com

The Sandisk Ultra II is rated at 15MB/s read but I've tested them to about 19MB/s

which is what we're both getting more or less.

I guess the one advantage is you don't have to take the SDHC our of the MxR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Norman

Using MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 - USB ExpressCard 34|54 Adapter with MxR, I timed transfer of 3.87 GB file - 210 seconds = Approximately 18.42 MB per second.

Chris Norman · January 12th, 2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

With or without CRC checking in ClipBrowser?

That's about the same speed I'm getting with my Sandisk 12 in 1 reader with CRC off. That's about 4x.

Sandisk ImageMate 12-in-1 Reader Writer SDDR89A15 in Flash Memory Card Readers at JR.com

The Sandisk Ultra II is rated at 15MB/s read but I've tested them to about 19MB/s

which is what we're both getting more or less.

I guess the one advantage is you don't have to take the SDHC our of the MxR.

Sorry, not very familiar with Clip Browser CRC function, I mainly use XDCAM Transfer app .. yes it is a small convenience not having to remove the SD card.
yeah

Craig Seeman · January 12th, 2009, 04:35 PM

BIG MISTAKE if you're not backing up your BPAV folders!
Transfer app rewraps to MOV. You're going to have a tough time handing those off to a non Final Cut Pro user (and it WILL happen unless you're only doing your own projects).
You also run the risk of a corrupted copy which is what CRC checks for.
You're also going to run into problems if you have a clip spanned across multiple cards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Norman

Sorry, not very familiar with Clip Browser CRC function, I mainly use XDCAM Transfer app .. yes it is a small convenience not having to remove the SD card.
yeah

Chris Norman · January 12th, 2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

BIG MISTAKE if you're not backing up your BPAV folders!
Transfer app rewraps to MOV. You're going to have a tough time handing those off to a non Final Cut Pro user (and it WILL happen unless you're only doing your own projects).
You also run the risk of a corrupted copy which is what CRC checks for.
You're also going to run into problems if you have a clip spanned across multiple cards.

Thanks for tip , but I always archive BPAV if it's important footage.

Bruce Rawlings · January 13th, 2009, 08:10 AM

Just to say that 10 MxR cards arrived today - and the 10 cards work absolutely fine in my EX1s, thank you Ross. Have married them with 10 Transcend 16gb cards and test recorded them all.

Barry J. Weckesser · February 19th, 2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Herewini

Hi Chris,

When we ended our testing phase on the MxR Expresscard we realised we had nothing to put the card into to protect it, or just as importantly make it look good in front of our corporate clients.

So we're producing a case based on the existing Sony SxS case, but instead of being dull dark grey it's bright ORANGE, so you can find them in a hurry, especially in the dark.

It has it's own label you can write on, so the idea which is a carry through for us from our DVCAM days, is to number each MxR and the case and then write only on the case.

They should be available in about 2-3weeks time.

We did look at cases for holding multiple cards at a time, but we couldn't get a consensus amongst ourselves on whether a multi-card holder would be soft or hard case, or even how many it should hold.

If anyone has a preference, ie
Soft vs Hard
No of cards
Other stuff we haven't even looked at..

let us know and we'll see what we can do.

Any further word on a case for the MxR cards? And also possibly - labeling suggestions for the MxR adaptor itself?

Chris Leong · February 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM

Ross

As far as MxR card holders and cases go, I'd suggest you looked at the Pelican series of SDHC card holders. Of course, they're Pelicans, so waterproof, etc., but they're incredible pieces of gear - bar that one Achilles heel that all of these bags and cases seem to have - and that is that you've got to put a piece of gaffer's on the top of it to identify which one is which.
I have four little Pelicans and four of the little Case Logic soft zippered cases. The Pelicans take 2 rows of 4 cards, the Case Logix, 2 rows of 3. Everything is black. No space or provision for labeling.
You can see how things can get confusing, especially fir the DIT who's doing all the handing out and collecting of cards...

So yeah, yellow! fantastic! hard cases please - think "dropped from 3ft (pocket height) an average of 60 times a day". Think label space - or at least a flat spot for the gaffer's tape. Think waterproof or at least moisture proof.

Maybe Pelican will get their act together and come out with something?
But until then...

Cheers!
Chris

Eduardo Castelan · February 27th, 2009, 08:40 AM

Hi Ross,

my Sony PMW EX-3 the firmware is v1.02_0078

How do I update to firmware of the EX-3 to use MxR?

And to firmware it be not updated, doesn't MxR work?

Thank you

Paul Inglis · February 27th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eduardo Castelan

Hi Ross,

my Sony PMW EX-3 the firmware is v1.02_0078

How do I update to firmware of the EX-3 to use MxR?

And to firmware it be not updated, doesn't MxR work?

Thank you

As I mentioned in your post; you don't need to update the firmware on the EX-3 to use MxR Cards. It's the EX-1 that needs a firmware update. I use the MxR Cards without issue on my EX-3 and I haven't updated my firmware.

Ross Herewini · February 28th, 2009, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eduardo Castelan

Hi Ross,

my Sony PMW EX-3 the firmware is v1.02_0078

How do I update to firmware of the EX-3 to use MxR?

And to firmware it be not updated, doesn't MxR work?

Thank you

Hi Eduardo,

I have tested the MxR against the latest version that is being installed here in Australia, as of Thursday this week, and it was version 1.03-0082 and it worked fine.

As others have said you won't need to update the firmware on the EX3, as it is a newer camera, and it already allows USB to talk to it.

But if you do decide to go to a later revision, it works fine.

Graeme Fullick · February 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM

Ross,

I have just received an e-mail saying... that you are no longer selling the MxR cards? I was thinking of buying some more off you.

January 13th, 2009, 08:10 AM	#129
Bruce Rawlings Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK Posts: 410	10 out of 10 for Ross Just to say that 10 MxR cards arrived today - and the 10 cards work absolutely fine in my EX1s, thank you Ross. Have married them with 10 Transcend 16gb cards and test recorded them all.

February 19th, 2009, 12:51 PM	#131
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Ross As far as MxR card holders and cases go, I'd suggest you looked at the Pelican series of SDHC card holders. Of course, they're Pelicans, so waterproof, etc., but they're incredible pieces of gear - bar that one Achilles heel that all of these bags and cases seem to have - and that is that you've got to put a piece of gaffer's on the top of it to identify which one is which. I have four little Pelicans and four of the little Case Logic soft zippered cases. The Pelicans take 2 rows of 4 cards, the Case Logix, 2 rows of 3. Everything is black. No space or provision for labeling. You can see how things can get confusing, especially fir the DIT who's doing all the handing out and collecting of cards... So yeah, yellow! fantastic! hard cases please - think "dropped from 3ft (pocket height) an average of 60 times a day". Think label space - or at least a flat spot for the gaffer's tape. Think waterproof or at least moisture proof. Maybe Pelican will get their act together and come out with something? But until then... Cheers! Chris __________________ "The content, not the container."

February 27th, 2009, 08:40 AM	#132
Eduardo Castelan New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SP - Brazil Posts: 6	EX-3 update to firmware Hi Ross, my Sony PMW EX-3 the firmware is v1.02_0078 How do I update to firmware of the EX-3 to use MxR? And to firmware it be not updated, doesn't MxR work? Thank you

February 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM	#135
Graeme Fullick Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 337	Ross, I have just received an e-mail saying... that you are no longer selling the MxR cards? I was thinking of buying some more off you. __________________ Graeme

January 12th, 2009, 04:33 AM	#122
Chris Norman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 70	I use an imac .. no PCI Express slot & have been frustrated unloading large files from 16 GB Ultra ll cards via DigiCard USB SD reader. So recently took a punt & ordered a MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 - USB ExpressCard 34\|54 Adapter to try with MxR adapters with Sandisk 16 GB Ultra ll cards. Works a treat - plug in MXR with Ultra ll card .. very much faster than the SD reader - currently $34 US from: PC Card, ExpressCard, and FireWire Devices, Synchrotech

January 12th, 2009, 03:43 PM	#124
Chris Norman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 70	Using MicroU2E-MV USB 2.0 - USB ExpressCard 34\|54 Adapter with MxR, I timed transfer of 3.87 GB file - 210 seconds = Approximately 18.42 MB per second.