SxS card reader? at DVinfo.net

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 03:21 PM

I dont need a card reader for the ex3, right, I can just hook up the camera via firewire and pull the video off the cards?

Jay Gladwell · November 11th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Yes, you can connect the camera to the computer. But the SxS card reader sure is faster when it comes to offloading the files.

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 03:33 PM

really? how much faster? and bh was pitching me the sony one, for 250 bucks, there are cheaper ones right?

Jay Gladwell · November 11th, 2008, 03:43 PM

I haven't timed it, but the reader is considerably faster--worth the cost, to me, anyway.

Two-fifty is the going price. I've not found it any cheaper. Hey, it's Sony and only Sony makes 'em.

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 03:48 PM

great, thanks!

Paul Kellett · November 11th, 2008, 06:09 PM

I haven't found the sony reader to be much faster, it's still connected via usb the same as the camera would be so there's the usual usb bottleneck.
If you put the sxs card into an express card slot on the pc then that's a different story, very fast.
When i was using the sony reader i was getting about 6 x transfer speed.
With the sxs card in a sxs slot on my laptop, i was getting over 10 times speed, (3 mins to offload an 8gb card).
Nowadays though i'm using the sdhc card so i use the sdhc>usb reader, it's about as fast as the sony reader, and cost me £5, and doesn't require mains power like the sony reader does.

Paul.

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 06:24 PM

ok, another question then. when recording, and card one fills up, and it starts storing on card two, can I take out card one while its in record mode and dump the card?

Andrew Hollister · November 11th, 2008, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Planchon

ok, another question then. when recording, and card one fills up, and it starts storing on card two, can I take out card one while its in record mode and dump the card?

That's the beauty of it all. just make sure you are pulling the right card :)
Also when you are done offloading, clear the card while it is in our computer, so you won't have to do it in camera.

Ted OMalley · November 11th, 2008, 07:01 PM

Yes, you can. Ian, you should really consider the SDHC solution that many (most?) of us are using currently. We are saving our one or two SxS cards for overcranking and using the SCHC cards for recording. They are much cheaper, as effective and reliable, and you can put them in a simple SD card reader to transfer what you've recorded. This is a beautiful solution and enhances the value of these cameras greatly.

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted OMalley

Yes, you can. Ian, you should really consider the SDHC solution that many (most?) of us are using currently. We are saving our one or two SxS cards for overcranking and using the SCHC cards for recording. They are much cheaper, as effective and reliable, and you can put them in a simple SD card reader to transfer what you've recorded. This is a beautiful solution and enhances the value of these cameras greatly.

from what I have been reading about the SCHC cards, the adapter you have to use sticks out a couple inches, and you cant close the door, is that true? also, I have only been reading about it for a little bit, but it sounds like the rumor is sony might update the firmware to lock that option out...and if that is even remotely true, by the time I get the camera, that option probably wont be on the table. BUT, if it is, then I will definately consider SCHC for shoots where I dont have to worry about breaking that adapter off.

Chris Hurd · November 11th, 2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian Planchon

...the SCHC cards, the adapter you have to use sticks out a couple inches...

Oh no, not nearly that far. More like a couple of millimeters is all.

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Oh no, not nearly that far. More like a couple of millimeters is all.

ahh, maybe the pic I saw was an extreme version.

but you probably still cant close the door right (not that its a HUGE deal)?

Chris Hurd · November 11th, 2008, 08:19 PM

Maybe the pic you saw was the Compact Flash version? That would account for a couple of inches.

Anyway it's just the EX1 door that won't close on the SDHC adapter combo. The EX3 door closes just fine.

Ian Planchon · November 11th, 2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Maybe the pic you saw was the Compact Flash version? That would account for a couple of inches.

Anyway it's just the EX1 door that won't close on the SDHC adapter combo. The EX3 door closes just fine.

yup, that was the one.

so I would need to get SDHC to express adapter, and then I can record to the SDHC cards? simple as that?

Chris Hurd · November 11th, 2008, 08:57 PM

Just about as simple as that -- as long as it's the Kensington
adapter and Sandisk or Transcend SDHC cards. Jay Gladwell
and Alex Raskin did a great job summing everything up in
these two posts:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/958333-post794.html

and

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/958342-post795.html

or browse the entire 60-page, 880-post thread at

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-xdca...sxs-cards.html

Hope this helps,

November 11th, 2008, 03:21 PM	#1
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	SxS card reader? I dont need a card reader for the ex3, right, I can just hook up the camera via firewire and pull the video off the cards?

November 11th, 2008, 06:09 PM	#6
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	I haven't found the sony reader to be much faster, it's still connected via usb the same as the camera would be so there's the usual usb bottleneck. If you put the sxs card into an express card slot on the pc then that's a different story, very fast. When i was using the sony reader i was getting about 6 x transfer speed. With the sxs card in a sxs slot on my laptop, i was getting over 10 times speed, (3 mins to offload an 8gb card). Nowadays though i'm using the sdhc card so i use the sdhc>usb reader, it's about as fast as the sony reader, and cost me £5, and doesn't require mains power like the sony reader does. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

November 11th, 2008, 07:01 PM	#9
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	Yes, you can. Ian, you should really consider the SDHC solution that many (most?) of us are using currently. We are saving our one or two SxS cards for overcranking and using the SCHC cards for recording. They are much cheaper, as effective and reliable, and you can put them in a simple SD card reader to transfer what you've recorded. This is a beautiful solution and enhances the value of these cameras greatly. __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

November 11th, 2008, 08:19 PM	#13
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Maybe the pic you saw was the Compact Flash version? That would account for a couple of inches. Anyway it's just the EX1 door that won't close on the SDHC adapter combo. The EX3 door closes just fine. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 11th, 2008, 08:57 PM	#15
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Just about as simple as that -- as long as it's the Kensington adapter and Sandisk or Transcend SDHC cards. Jay Gladwell and Alex Raskin did a great job summing everything up in these two posts: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/958333-post794.html and http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/958342-post795.html or browse the entire 60-page, 880-post thread at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-xdca...sxs-cards.html Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 11th, 2008, 03:28 PM	#2
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	Yes, you can connect the camera to the computer. But the SxS card reader sure is faster when it comes to offloading the files.

November 11th, 2008, 03:33 PM	#3
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	really? how much faster? and bh was pitching me the sony one, for 250 bucks, there are cheaper ones right?

November 11th, 2008, 03:43 PM	#4
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	I haven't timed it, but the reader is considerably faster--worth the cost, to me, anyway. Two-fifty is the going price. I've not found it any cheaper. Hey, it's Sony and only Sony makes 'em.

November 11th, 2008, 03:48 PM	#5
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	great, thanks!

November 11th, 2008, 06:24 PM	#7
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	ok, another question then. when recording, and card one fills up, and it starts storing on card two, can I take out card one while its in record mode and dump the card?