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Daniel Jones · October 22nd, 2008, 11:37 AM

I wondered if anyone has a good suggestion for importing XDcam EX footage from Final Cut Pro to Apple Color.
I am having to export the XDcam EX footage as an Apple Pro res format and then put the new format in the timeline before I send to Color.

Can anyone tell me if there is another way to use XDcam EX 1080 25p in Apple Color.

Really appreciate any help on this.

Daniel

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Bhanu Neti · October 22nd, 2008, 12:31 PM

I have set the render control to "Apple ProRes (HDV or XDCAM HD only)" in the sequence settings. This way when i sent the sequence to Color, i didn't had to transcode. On return from color the color corrected sequence was set to Apple ProRes.

Daniel Jones · October 22nd, 2008, 01:13 PM

thank you. I tried your suggestion and I had no luck. When I send the sequence to color I get a red envelope on the color timeline and I cant see the footage. I am importing the Xdcam Ex shots to final cut pro from files created by xdcam transfer and have no problem seeing them in Final cut.

Daniel Jones · October 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM

I am wonderig if I have the right sequence settings when I'm using Final cut pro and XDcam Ex 1080 25p. I use the Xdcam sequence settings.

Dean Sensui · October 22nd, 2008, 02:00 PM

Daniel...

I use Color all the time. Here's my workflow:

Edit the raw footage into a 6-minute segment.

Media manage the segment to eliminate unused footage. I do this first because Media Manager doesn't work well with a sequence generated by Color.

Send the media-managed sequence to Color. Keep the same XDCam EX format. I don't make any format changes at this time.

Do my color corrections and grading.

Send the rendered Color project back to FCP as an Apple ProRes format sequence.

All the color corrections are being done in XDCam EX. It only goes to the ProRes format when the corrected/graded project is finally rendered by Color.

Daniel Jones · October 22nd, 2008, 02:42 PM

thank you. Is Media Manager another programme?

Daniel Jones · October 23rd, 2008, 10:39 AM

I am sending a sequence from Final Cut Pro 6.0.2 to Apple Color and still can't see any footage.
All I get is this red envelope.

Please help

Daniel.

Daniel Alexander · October 24th, 2008, 08:25 AM

Hi Daniel,

Before sending to color check the following, although some of these points shouldnt really effect color it will help diagnose the problem:

Have you applied any effect to the footage?

Is your sequence settings correct? (easy setup, xdcam ex1, create new sequence, import footage)

is your render setting set to pro res or is it set to the default?

Inside color, have you made sure your setup page conforms with the footage?

Daniel Jones · October 25th, 2008, 03:46 AM

Problem solved!

Thank you for your reply.
After spending many hours tweaking all sorts of places to try and see the xdcam ex footage in color I finally discovered what the problem was.
When I installed Final cut studio 2 I moved all the applications to the dock and the desktop as I would be using them often.
I have just discovered that because they weren't in the applications folder, my mac wasn't updating final cut studio 2.0. And so, I didn't have the latest updates, which is why I couldn't see anything.
After installing all the updates everything works like a dream.
I am so relieved, and I wont take them out of the Applications folder ever again.
thanks again.

Daniel

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October 22nd, 2008, 11:37 AM	#1
Daniel Jones New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 12	XDCam EX and Apple Color I wondered if anyone has a good suggestion for importing XDcam EX footage from Final Cut Pro to Apple Color. I am having to export the XDcam EX footage as an Apple Pro res format and then put the new format in the timeline before I send to Color. Can anyone tell me if there is another way to use XDcam EX 1080 25p in Apple Color. Really appreciate any help on this. Daniel Soloist Movies

October 22nd, 2008, 12:31 PM	#2
Bhanu Neti Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 60	I have set the render control to "Apple ProRes (HDV or XDCAM HD only)" in the sequence settings. This way when i sent the sequence to Color, i didn't had to transcode. On return from color the color corrected sequence was set to Apple ProRes. Attached Thumbnails

October 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM	#4
Daniel Jones New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 12	I am wonderig if I have the right sequence settings when I'm using Final cut pro and XDcam Ex 1080 25p. I use the Xdcam sequence settings. Last edited by Daniel Jones; October 22nd, 2008 at 03:32 PM.

October 22nd, 2008, 02:00 PM	#5
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Daniel... I use Color all the time. Here's my workflow: Edit the raw footage into a 6-minute segment. Media manage the segment to eliminate unused footage. I do this first because Media Manager doesn't work well with a sequence generated by Color. Send the media-managed sequence to Color. Keep the same XDCam EX format. I don't make any format changes at this time. Do my color corrections and grading. Send the rendered Color project back to FCP as an Apple ProRes format sequence. All the color corrections are being done in XDCam EX. It only goes to the ProRes format when the corrected/graded project is finally rendered by Color. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

October 22nd, 2008, 02:42 PM	#6
Daniel Jones New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 12	thank you. Is Media Manager another programme? Last edited by Daniel Jones; October 22nd, 2008 at 03:33 PM.

October 22nd, 2008, 01:13 PM	#3
Daniel Jones New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 12	thank you. I tried your suggestion and I had no luck. When I send the sequence to color I get a red envelope on the color timeline and I cant see the footage. I am importing the Xdcam Ex shots to final cut pro from files created by xdcam transfer and have no problem seeing them in Final cut.

October 23rd, 2008, 10:39 AM	#7
Daniel Jones New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 12	XDCAM EX and Apple Color I am sending a sequence from Final Cut Pro 6.0.2 to Apple Color and still can't see any footage. All I get is this red envelope. Please help Daniel. Attached Thumbnails

October 24th, 2008, 08:25 AM	#8
Daniel Alexander Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 320	Hi Daniel, Before sending to color check the following, although some of these points shouldnt really effect color it will help diagnose the problem: Have you applied any effect to the footage? Is your sequence settings correct? (easy setup, xdcam ex1, create new sequence, import footage) is your render setting set to pro res or is it set to the default? Inside color, have you made sure your setup page conforms with the footage?

October 25th, 2008, 03:46 AM	#9
Daniel Jones New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: London UK Posts: 12	Problem solved! Thank you for your reply. After spending many hours tweaking all sorts of places to try and see the xdcam ex footage in color I finally discovered what the problem was. When I installed Final cut studio 2 I moved all the applications to the dock and the desktop as I would be using them often. I have just discovered that because they weren't in the applications folder, my mac wasn't updating final cut studio 2.0. And so, I didn't have the latest updates, which is why I couldn't see anything. After installing all the updates everything works like a dream. I am so relieved, and I wont take them out of the Applications folder ever again. thanks again. Daniel Soloist Movies