Mixing 24P and 30P at DVinfo.net

Mick Haensler · October 4th, 2008, 12:08 PM

Hey Everyone

I have a project that will require mixing EX 24P and 30P footage.....don't ask....

I'll be editing in FCP with final output going to DVD and the web. What is my best recourse here. Thanks for all input.

I posted this here since I know most XDCAM shooters edit in Final Cut.

Mick Haensler
Higher Ground Media

Noah Kadner · October 4th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Sadly 30p and 24p do not mix well at all- which is why I'm a huge non-fan of 30p. You have two basic options- fit the 24p onto a 30p timeline or fit the 30p onto a 24p timeline. Some pros and cons-

24p on a 30p timeline
Pros
Visually will look better- 24p just needs to have it's pulldown added and will fit on a 30p timeline well.
Much easier, less rendering required.

Cons
Lose native 24p edit
Cannot make native 24p DVD or go out to film without complex conversions down the road
20% more render and storage time required for effects due to more frames per second

30p on a 24p timeline
Pros
Preserve native 24p footage and timeline
Can make a 24p DVD and/or output easily to film
Cons
30p is extremely difficult to convert to 24p without artifacting and requires considerable render power to make into 24p.

Bottom line is there is no easy solution here and I point all this out in the hopes that someone else reading this will avoid the situation entirely by sticking with one or the other for their entire production. Sorry. :)

-Noah

Noah Kadner · October 4th, 2008, 02:54 PM

Ps- here is a plugin that can help- if you choose to go one way or the other:

Nattress: Standards Conversion FAQ

Noah

Mick Haensler · October 4th, 2008, 07:22 PM

Thanks Noah. What is the advantage of using the plug in vs. letting Final Cut handle things?

Mick Haensler
Higher Ground Media

October 4th, 2008, 12:08 PM	#1
Mick Haensler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 122	Mixing 24P and 30P Hey Everyone I have a project that will require mixing EX 24P and 30P footage.....don't ask.... I'll be editing in FCP with final output going to DVD and the web. What is my best recourse here. Thanks for all input. I posted this here since I know most XDCAM shooters edit in Final Cut. Mick Haensler Higher Ground Media

October 4th, 2008, 02:52 PM	#2
Noah Kadner Better than Halle Berry Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 435	Sadly 30p and 24p do not mix well at all- which is why I'm a huge non-fan of 30p. You have two basic options- fit the 24p onto a 30p timeline or fit the 30p onto a 24p timeline. Some pros and cons- 24p on a 30p timeline Pros Visually will look better- 24p just needs to have it's pulldown added and will fit on a 30p timeline well. Much easier, less rendering required. Cons Lose native 24p edit Cannot make native 24p DVD or go out to film without complex conversions down the road 20% more render and storage time required for effects due to more frames per second 30p on a 24p timeline Pros Preserve native 24p footage and timeline Can make a 24p DVD and/or output easily to film Cons 30p is extremely difficult to convert to 24p without artifacting and requires considerable render power to make into 24p. Bottom line is there is no easy solution here and I point all this out in the hopes that someone else reading this will avoid the situation entirely by sticking with one or the other for their entire production. Sorry. :) -Noah

October 4th, 2008, 02:54 PM	#3
Noah Kadner Better than Halle Berry Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 435	Ps- here is a plugin that can help- if you choose to go one way or the other: Nattress: Standards Conversion FAQ Noah

October 4th, 2008, 07:22 PM	#4
Mick Haensler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Salisbury, MD Posts: 122	Thanks Noah. What is the advantage of using the plug in vs. letting Final Cut handle things? Mick Haensler Higher Ground Media