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Sony PXW-Z280, Z190, X180 etc. (going back to EX3 & EX1) recording to SxS flash memory.

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Old December 2nd, 2008, 04:48 AM   #1171
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Delkin Card - OLDER version is the one that works

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There are some (two) early reports on the web that this might work for all but overcranking in a similar way to the Kensington. More information will come no doubt come soon (or just google it).

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This has been posted here and elsewhere but......just to stress this. The card I originally linked to (which works, allows EX1 door to close etc.) is in fact the OLDER one and at this time is discontinued by Delkin (!). Web reports suggest that the newer version (has the big DD logo on the side) unfortunately DOES NOT WORK for SxS substitution. A helpful post on another forum suggests that Delkin are very responsive to the idea of reviving the older version, linked above (now they know of the potential EX1/EX3 market). No doubt we'll hear more information soon.

I don't have either but I just don't want people rushing around ordering the wrong Delkin cards until this is sorted out - especially since forum posting still seems a bit messed up/hit and miss at the moment!
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 06:21 AM   #1172
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Kensington cards found in Akihabara

I'm visiting Akihabara, which is a district in Tokyo that must be seen to be believed - there is every possible electronic item for sale here. Including the Kensington cards. Yesterday I went to a large store near my hotel and bought all their stock on display (three cards). Today I went back and they replenished their supply.

Now I'm happy with the three I have, but I probably could be talked into returning one or more times to repeatedly clean them out and bring them back to the states.

They are 4950 Yen which, with the 10-year low in the exchange rate, is about USD$50 each.

Just thought I'd offer.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 06:43 AM   #1173
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Brooks,
I've been there a couple times, electronics everywhere. You can actually walk there from the Ueno exit which is close. The parent company I work for is located in Kumagaya.

I was surprised on how expensensive everything was.
$50 each is expensive.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 06:54 AM   #1174
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Akihabara

Yeah, some stuff is definitely more expensive here. I'm sure it's partly due to the horrible exchange rate, but not entirely. I saw an EX1 for a bit under 900,000 Yen - which seems way too high even if the exchange rate was back where it was a few years ago.

Down the street, however, I picked up a name-brand 2GB SD card for the equivalent of USD$3.

You want good deals on small parts? Good deals abound. Deals on big ticket items? Not so much.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 07:19 AM   #1175
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Hey all,
just wanted to report that my sandisk ultra 2, which arrived today, works without any problems when overcranking at 50fps
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:05 PM   #1176
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After viewing the individual who was kind enough to post his video on how to ( Cut ) a Ultra 2 SDHC card in order for you to close your EX-1 door, i took it upon myself to do the same.

But with a little twist. Instead of physically cutting the card, i took it and ground off the exses plastic on with my bench grinder.

Now i have 2 cards i can still easily remove from my Kensington adapter AND close my EX-1 door.

I have to tell everyone here. This was so simple it amazed me. Took me all of 5 minutes to do 2 cards.

Tested the cards up to 50fps. Zero problems. I will post pic,s shortly.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:11 PM   #1177
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kensington adapter

Is the Kensington adapter available or not?
Some web sites show it's back ordered but some show it seems to be available. I haven't actually tried to order, perhaps they are not up to date?
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:23 PM   #1178
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Just an FYI - I've been using the SanDisk 16GB cards in the Kensington but today I got 2 Transcend 16GB from Amazon ($34 each) and can overcrank consistently 60fps at 30p, 48fps at 24p with no errors. Can only do about 50fps at 30p on the SanDisks. I'll still use the SxS cards for overcranking, but this is a good indication of the data rate improvement.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:23 PM   #1179
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Ed, Amazon just canceled my Kensington order that was supposed to be fulfilled by Beach Audio.

So I'm sure your mileage will vary depending on which supplier still has remaining stock.

I'd imagine not much is left anywhere, at this point.

Chris Hurd (owner of this site) and others reported that they are working with some manufacturers to produce a Kensington alternative - which also will allow EX1 door to close.

I guess we shall wait and see at this point.

Some people report success with Delkin adapter, but there's a confusion which of 2 modifications to buy, as only one works.

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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:40 PM   #1180
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I'm new to this discussion and don't want to wade through 80 pages so:

Are there any downsides to these cards besides

- can't always close the door

and
- limitations on slow mo speed.

Any reported issues of reliability?

Does the camera communicate with them as fully as Sony cards in the review mode for erasing and checking footage?

Its hard to believe there is a Santa Claus.

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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:56 PM   #1181
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Here, read one page.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-xdca...sxs-cards.html
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 05:58 PM   #1182
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Yes, SDHC works great.

You can do everything you can do with the SxS except overcrank at higher rates above 40FPS or so. Well, at least safely.

If you need to overcrank, just use your SxS card. No big deal.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 06:05 PM   #1183
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I mananged to pick up two Kensington cards today in the UK @ £14.94 each....all I need is an EX to put them in.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM   #1184
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Left photo is side by side comparison of modified and unmodified cards.

Right photo is side by side comparison of modified card in Kensington adapter and unmodified card in Kensington adapter.

Card was modified using a bench grinder.

Now my EX-1 door closes. JOY!
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 09:11 PM   #1185
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Don't try this at home kids this video was done by a trained professional Card shaver...lol
I think I will wait on the Delkins although it want have any effect on the SanDisk card it’s all plastic from the back end to the logo.

SDHC card shaving | Fohdeesha Media
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