SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Alex Raskin · November 22nd, 2008, 08:00 PM

Robert, just get this Transcend card, it's as good as Sandisk.

For overcranking, stay with SxS.

Joe Lawry · November 22nd, 2008, 10:05 PM

Just placed an order for 2 Kensingtons from Expansys in Australia.. not cheap.. but amazon wont ship them to NZ and i havent got an american address to send too..

Peter Kraft · November 22nd, 2008, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose Bucaro

Do not forget that if you are shooting SP or HQ without over cranking the Lexar 8 Gb cards are good and you do not need an adapter and you can close the door on the EX1.
I know some people had some issues with the earlier Lexar version. Maybe it is time to try them out one more time since the Kensignton adapters are not available?

Jose, which Lexar are you talking about? Care to give an item number? Thx. P.

Vincent Oliver · November 23rd, 2008, 01:48 AM

I purchased two Kensington cards from Amazon UK + 2 Transcend 16gb cards - the Kensington 7 in 1 retails for £13.56. BTW. does anyone know what the 7 in 1 actually means, as far as I can see only two card types will fit in (SD & SDHC)

Amazon.co.uk: Kensington 7-in-1 Media Reader for ExpressCard slot - Card reader - 7 in 1 ( Memory Stick, MS PRO, MMC, SD, xD ) - ExpressCard: Kensington: Electronics & Photo

Dean Harrington · November 23rd, 2008, 02:12 AM

I paid $90 for 2 cards ... I consider that pretty good compared to SXS. The difference is huge!!!

Scott Hayes · November 23rd, 2008, 08:38 AM

my onsale.com came up backordered. this really sucks. I am wondering if Sony had anything to do with this?

Ned Soltz · November 23rd, 2008, 10:10 AM

I only suggested Sony as a pitiful attempt at humor.

The reality here is the product is one that has very limited usefulness and probably only began to sell when we discovered SDHC.

Most folks using SDHC cards in their digital cameras would transfer either directly from the camera or use a simple USB card reader. The market for a card reader for ExpressCard notebooks is indeed very limited.

Next product to test is the SIIG 12-in-1 adapter. Note the 11-in-1 which is PCIe. The 12-in-1 is USB and can be ordered directly from SIIG.

Brent Ethington · November 23rd, 2008, 10:14 AM

Ned - I tested the SIIG 12-in-1 adapter and it is not recognized by the EX1 (reports "unknown media"), so it doesn't work.

Raul Rooma · November 23rd, 2008, 10:29 AM

Hi!Can somebody confirm how much possible to overcrank with transcend 16gb cards?As i understand sandisk almost 15mbs and overcranking possible near 50fps.I tryed apacer sdhc and it give me little over 30 fps.i guess its not very safe to use it for HQ recordings.

Best Regard

Raul

Paul Newman · November 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM

You can get around 40fps - but its NOT garanteed - always use the SxS card that came with the camera for such things. I assume you mean Transcend SDHC class 6 and not SSD cards?

Paul

Jose Bucaro · November 23rd, 2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Kraft

Jose, which Lexar are you talking about? Care to give an item number? Thx. P.

Peter,

This is the card from Lexar that I purchase and never had any issues shooting HD or SP quality. However, I am shooting with the EX3.

EX8GB431 Lexar 8 GB ExpressCard, Backup Memory for Desktop & Notebook Computers

Paul Newman · November 23rd, 2008, 01:31 PM

These are the numbers on the back of my Lexar 8GB SSD card:

Lexar EX8GB-5001 Rev D
32064-8GBC-2407

Lexar Media Inc 2007

I'd like to know if this is the same/different as yours - mine came from the UK about 10 months ago and does not work reliably in any mode with the EX1.

More to the point is that the data rates for my 8GB Lexar are:
sequential read:24.7 seq. write 6.97
random read:23.92 random write: 1.36
random4k read:5.41 random 4k write 0.015

If you trawl thru this thread you'll find all the information refering to data rates on a large number of cards. This one of mine is simply not fast enough. The test was done the Crystaldiskmark soft which we've all used to get some parity in the tests.

Paul

Jose Bucaro · November 23rd, 2008, 01:39 PM

I got mine a couple of months ago. I am not sure what the numbers are since I removed the back sticker because it was tight sliding the card in and out of the camera. I am not sure if there is another way to find out the revision number?

Paul Newman · November 23rd, 2008, 01:45 PM

Guess not, but if you could run a test with CrystalDiskMark:

Download CrystalDiskMark 2.2.0 - A small HDD benchmark utility for your hard drive - Softpedia

with the Lexar SSD card in a laptop express card slot, then the numbers will tell us what's happening.

Paul

Larry Huntington · November 23rd, 2008, 03:22 PM

Has anyone used the Sandisk SDAD109A11 Digital Media Memory Card to Express Slot Adapter in conjunction with the Sandisk Ultra II 16GB cards? Do they work well?
I am about to order some.

November 23rd, 2008, 02:12 AM	#1025
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Kensington cards ... I paid $90 for 2 cards ... I consider that pretty good compared to SXS. The difference is huge!!!

November 23rd, 2008, 10:29 AM	#1029
Raul Rooma Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Estonia Posts: 113	Transcend Hi!Can somebody confirm how much possible to overcrank with transcend 16gb cards?As i understand sandisk almost 15mbs and overcranking possible near 50fps.I tryed apacer sdhc and it give me little over 30 fps.i guess its not very safe to use it for HQ recordings. Best Regard Raul

November 23rd, 2008, 11:47 AM	#1030
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	You can get around 40fps - but its NOT garanteed - always use the SxS card that came with the camera for such things. I assume you mean Transcend SDHC class 6 and not SSD cards? Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

November 23rd, 2008, 01:31 PM	#1032
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	These are the numbers on the back of my Lexar 8GB SSD card: Lexar EX8GB-5001 Rev D 32064-8GBC-2407 Lexar Media Inc 2007 I'd like to know if this is the same/different as yours - mine came from the UK about 10 months ago and does not work reliably in any mode with the EX1. More to the point is that the data rates for my 8GB Lexar are: sequential read:24.7 seq. write 6.97 random read:23.92 random write: 1.36 random4k read:5.41 random 4k write 0.015 If you trawl thru this thread you'll find all the information refering to data rates on a large number of cards. This one of mine is simply not fast enough. The test was done the Crystaldiskmark soft which we've all used to get some parity in the tests. Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

November 23rd, 2008, 01:39 PM	#1033
Jose Bucaro Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 32	I got mine a couple of months ago. I am not sure what the numbers are since I removed the back sticker because it was tight sliding the card in and out of the camera. I am not sure if there is another way to find out the revision number? __________________ JB

November 22nd, 2008, 08:00 PM	#1021
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Robert, just get this Transcend card, it's as good as Sandisk. For overcranking, stay with SxS.

November 22nd, 2008, 10:05 PM	#1022
Joe Lawry Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 418	Just placed an order for 2 Kensingtons from Expansys in Australia.. not cheap.. but amazon wont ship them to NZ and i havent got an american address to send too..

November 23rd, 2008, 01:48 AM	#1024
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	I purchased two Kensington cards from Amazon UK + 2 Transcend 16gb cards - the Kensington 7 in 1 retails for £13.56. BTW. does anyone know what the 7 in 1 actually means, as far as I can see only two card types will fit in (SD & SDHC) Amazon.co.uk: Kensington 7-in-1 Media Reader for ExpressCard slot - Card reader - 7 in 1 ( Memory Stick, MS PRO, MMC, SD, xD ) - ExpressCard: Kensington: Electronics & Photo

November 23rd, 2008, 08:38 AM	#1026
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	my onsale.com came up backordered. this really sucks. I am wondering if Sony had anything to do with this?

November 23rd, 2008, 10:10 AM	#1027
Ned Soltz Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 659	I only suggested Sony as a pitiful attempt at humor. The reality here is the product is one that has very limited usefulness and probably only began to sell when we discovered SDHC. Most folks using SDHC cards in their digital cameras would transfer either directly from the camera or use a simple USB card reader. The market for a card reader for ExpressCard notebooks is indeed very limited. Next product to test is the SIIG 12-in-1 adapter. Note the 11-in-1 which is PCIe. The 12-in-1 is USB and can be ordered directly from SIIG.

November 23rd, 2008, 10:14 AM	#1028
Brent Ethington Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: WA Posts: 180	Ned - I tested the SIIG 12-in-1 adapter and it is not recognized by the EX1 (reports "unknown media"), so it doesn't work.

November 23rd, 2008, 01:45 PM	#1034
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	Guess not, but if you could run a test with CrystalDiskMark: Download CrystalDiskMark 2.2.0 - A small HDD benchmark utility for your hard drive - Softpedia with the Lexar SSD card in a laptop express card slot, then the numbers will tell us what's happening. Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

November 23rd, 2008, 03:22 PM	#1035
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	Has anyone used the Sandisk SDAD109A11 Digital Media Memory Card to Express Slot Adapter in conjunction with the Sandisk Ultra II 16GB cards? Do they work well? I am about to order some.