SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Peter Kraft · November 21st, 2008, 10:25 AM

Being a writer myself, I know what you mean.
Nevertheless, best luck,

Joe Diaz · November 21st, 2008, 10:48 AM

Has anyone tried this

Welcome to Transcend Website - Transcend Releases its New ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB

Can be ordered here:
Transcend 16GB Express Card Solid State Drive TS16GSSD34E-M at TigerDirect.com

Transcend Releases its New ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB
if its what i think it is it should work on the EX1 with the door closed
if indeed it will work.

Ned Soltz · November 21st, 2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Diaz

Has anyone tried this

Welcome to Transcend Website - Transcend Releases its New ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB

It has been noted several times on this board. The SSD DOES NOT work.

Jeroen Wolf · November 21st, 2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

I have been using four Kensingtons with SanDisk cards everyday for four months with not one error.

Just curious: which version of the Sandisk card- Ultra II or Extreme III?

Ned Soltz · November 21st, 2008, 02:49 PM

With the apparent demise of the Kensington 7 in 1 (no confirmation yet from Kensington PR but Kensington customer service says discontinued), I did a last-ditch test today of other adapters.

I bought SIIg, i-dot-connect, and Delkin ExpressCard adapters today and gave each a try.

The good news-- The SIIG fits in the EX-1 and allows closing the door.

The bad news-- neither the EX-1 nor the EX-3 would recognize any of these cards. No problem recognizing Kensington.

I anxiously await a report on the Chinese cards on eBay. Hopefully they will work. But I still wouldn't feed them to dog or baby.

Peter Kraft · November 21st, 2008, 03:09 PM

Ned, I just learnt that SIIG does offer various different Expresscard adapters. USB and PCIe-based ones.
Please post the item number of your card, just to exclude that SIIG adapters don't work at all.

Steven Thomas · November 21st, 2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeroen Wolf

Just curious: which version of the Sandisk card- Ultra II or Extreme III?

I'm using both.
The new 30MB/s Exteme III & the Ultra II 15MB/s

And just to be clear, I meant to write almost three months, not four.

Ned Soltz · November 21st, 2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Kraft

Ned, I just learnt that SIIG does offer various different Expresscard adapters. USB and PCIe-based ones.
Please post the item number of your card, just to exclude that SIIG adapters don't work at all.

Good catch, Peter

The model number on the card is 02-0393A and part number after sn is CE-E01012-S1

Interestingly, the card I bought was labeled ExpressCard 11-in-1

The SIIG website shows this card labeled 12-in-1 but with identical part number.

It is definitely worth trying the 12-in-1, Will look for one.

Ned Soltz

Peter Kraft · November 21st, 2008, 03:40 PM

Ned, press releases concerning the different express card adapters
can be found here: http://siig.com/PressRelease.aspx?prid=52

Evan Meades · November 21st, 2008, 04:45 PM

Just in case a few of you missed Ross Herwini's post re another card adapter that works, here's a link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Laptop-ExpressCa...742.m153.l1262

I originally ordered 2 of these as I couldn't get the Kensington's here in OZ.
I have had no problems other than not being able to fully close the door on my EX3 but a tab of velcro basically does the same thing and the door "looks" closed.
The other bonus is they are dirt cheap!

cheers, Evan

ps, overcrank I get about 50 frames before an error

Gints Klimanis · November 21st, 2008, 05:45 PM

Sony wants to make money off the media. Camcorders have always been devices to sell tape. As an EX1 owner, though, I am miffed that there is zero value added at a significant price increase in the ExpressCard format considering ClipBrowser must be involved for conversion for AVID and WinXP Sony Vegas users. I'm pleasantly surprised that Sony doesn't charge for ClipBrowser.

David Heath · November 21st, 2008, 06:45 PM

The message is that once solid state cards get below a certain price, users can treat them like tape for archive purposes, or at least keep the rushes on them for a few weeks until a project is completed. Hence, instead of selling a couple of SxS cards per user, SDHC cards may get sold in similar quantities to tape in the past - money is still being made from media.

The message is do Sony make to want one lot of profit of (say) $100 on two cards at the initial camera sale, or make $5 here, $5 next week etc as users keep on buying cheaper cards?

The message must also be that whilst SDHC is working now, there must be a certain unease that future cards won't be compatible - I would feel happier using a Sony certified system. So please, please, Mr Sony, introduce an ExpressCard that fits natively into an EX, is comparable in price to the SDHC cards that are being used, with comparable performance, and then you may find that these media profits go directly to you instead of Sandisk or Transcend. You'll also find that it makes your cameras even more sellable compared to those of your rivals.

Bob Grant · November 21st, 2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Meades

I originally ordered 2 of these as I couldn't get the Kensington's here in OZ.

Evan,
eXpansys here in Australia have confirmed that they have Kensington cards in their inventory in the USA. The will be down here is a few weeks, large numbers of them.
95% of production is going to Australia!

Evan Meades · November 21st, 2008, 08:40 PM

Hi Bob, that's good but the other adapters are way cheaper and do the same thing with the Sandisk 16gb 11's! (apart from maybe slightly longer)

Expanse has the Kensington at AU 82.99 (plus postage) which is okay] but the other brand cost me around AU52.00 including postage for 2! Although it took around 10 days to get. I have ordered another 2.

Evan

Scott Hayes · November 21st, 2008, 09:12 PM

i just shot a lenghty 2 hour event with two SDHC cards. worked perfect! before iI left
I got neds message about the Kensington being discontinued, so I bought two more of them
from ONsale.com for $29! might want to see if they still have any.

November 21st, 2008, 04:45 PM	#1000
Evan Meades Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 68	Just in case a few of you missed Ross Herwini's post re another card adapter that works, here's a link. http://cgi.ebay.com/Laptop-ExpressCa...742.m153.l1262 I originally ordered 2 of these as I couldn't get the Kensington's here in OZ. I have had no problems other than not being able to fully close the door on my EX3 but a tab of velcro basically does the same thing and the door "looks" closed. The other bonus is they are dirt cheap! cheers, Evan ps, overcrank I get about 50 frames before an error Attached Thumbnails

November 21st, 2008, 10:25 AM	#991
Peter Kraft Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 245	Being a writer myself, I know what you mean. Nevertheless, best luck,

November 21st, 2008, 10:48 AM	#992
Joe Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 25	Has anyone tried this Welcome to Transcend Website - Transcend Releases its New ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB Can be ordered here: Transcend 16GB Express Card Solid State Drive TS16GSSD34E-M at TigerDirect.com Transcend Releases its New ExpressCard/34 Solid State Disk, Up to 16GB if its what i think it is it should work on the EX1 with the door closed if indeed it will work.

November 21st, 2008, 02:49 PM	#995
Ned Soltz Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 659	With the apparent demise of the Kensington 7 in 1 (no confirmation yet from Kensington PR but Kensington customer service says discontinued), I did a last-ditch test today of other adapters. I bought SIIg, i-dot-connect, and Delkin ExpressCard adapters today and gave each a try. The good news-- The SIIG fits in the EX-1 and allows closing the door. The bad news-- neither the EX-1 nor the EX-3 would recognize any of these cards. No problem recognizing Kensington. I anxiously await a report on the Chinese cards on eBay. Hopefully they will work. But I still wouldn't feed them to dog or baby.

November 21st, 2008, 03:09 PM	#996
Peter Kraft Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 245	Ned, I just learnt that SIIG does offer various different Expresscard adapters. USB and PCIe-based ones. Please post the item number of your card, just to exclude that SIIG adapters don't work at all.

November 21st, 2008, 03:40 PM	#999
Peter Kraft Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 245	Ned, press releases concerning the different express card adapters can be found here: http://siig.com/PressRelease.aspx?prid=52

November 21st, 2008, 05:45 PM	#1001
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Sony wants to make money off the media. Camcorders have always been devices to sell tape. As an EX1 owner, though, I am miffed that there is zero value added at a significant price increase in the ExpressCard format considering ClipBrowser must be involved for conversion for AVID and WinXP Sony Vegas users. I'm pleasantly surprised that Sony doesn't charge for ClipBrowser.

November 21st, 2008, 06:45 PM	#1002
David Heath Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,699	The message is that once solid state cards get below a certain price, users can treat them like tape for archive purposes, or at least keep the rushes on them for a few weeks until a project is completed. Hence, instead of selling a couple of SxS cards per user, SDHC cards may get sold in similar quantities to tape in the past - money is still being made from media. The message is do Sony make to want one lot of profit of (say) $100 on two cards at the initial camera sale, or make $5 here, $5 next week etc as users keep on buying cheaper cards? The message must also be that whilst SDHC is working now, there must be a certain unease that future cards won't be compatible - I would feel happier using a Sony certified system. So please, please, Mr Sony, introduce an ExpressCard that fits natively into an EX, is comparable in price to the SDHC cards that are being used, with comparable performance, and then you may find that these media profits go directly to you instead of Sandisk or Transcend. You'll also find that it makes your cameras even more sellable compared to those of your rivals.

November 21st, 2008, 08:40 PM	#1004
Evan Meades Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 68	Hi Bob, that's good but the other adapters are way cheaper and do the same thing with the Sandisk 16gb 11's! (apart from maybe slightly longer) Expanse has the Kensington at AU 82.99 (plus postage) which is okay] but the other brand cost me around AU52.00 including postage for 2! Although it took around 10 days to get. I have ordered another 2. Evan

November 21st, 2008, 09:12 PM	#1005
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	i just shot a lenghty 2 hour event with two SDHC cards. worked perfect! before iI left I got neds message about the Kensington being discontinued, so I bought two more of them from ONsale.com for $29! might want to see if they still have any.