SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Noah Yuan-Vogel · November 18th, 2008, 09:15 PM

Just upgraded my firmware and picked up a kensington adapter ($34.43 at buy.com) and 16gb sandisk ultra ii sdhc (~$65 at adorama). overall very impressed at how easy it was. im surprised the setup doesnt support 60fps overcranking given the card is rated at 15MBps by sandisk and my computer benchmarks it at 17MBps read and write. maybe i should do a benchmark reading the card through my ex1 to my computer over usb, i bet the camera isnt getting all it can out of the card. oh well. i am debating maybe buying a whole bunch of these cards and a cf-sdhc adapter so i can use the same sdhc media for the ex1 and the 5dmk2 (when it actually ships, i preordered 2 months ago). might be nice to have faster cf media, though, since it could double the speed of offloading footage, but at 3x the price.

Steven Thomas · November 18th, 2008, 09:28 PM

Noah, it's buried in these posts. But after a LOT of testing we're fairly certain the datarate limitation for USB over the EX expresscard slot is a Sony issue. Or, Sony intentionally limited this datarate, which is what I believe.

Evan Meades · November 18th, 2008, 09:31 PM

Hi Noah, I don't think it would work with the 5Dmk2 as the door needs to be shut before the camera accesses the card...unless you can bodge up the door's sensor! Plus it would stick out a mile on the 5D!

Evan

Dan Chung · November 18th, 2008, 09:33 PM

I think Noah means putting the SDHC card in another adapter, this time CF-SDHC. Noah, do you know if CF-SDHC are actually available? I have CF to SD, but it does not work with SDHC cards.

Dan

Noah Yuan-Vogel · November 19th, 2008, 07:53 AM

yeah sorry maybe i wasnt clear, i was talking about putting a cf-sdhc adapter in the 5d and putting only the sdhc in it. expresscard adapter for ex1 and cf adapter for 5dmk2, only the sdhc card moves around.

Jeroen Wolf · November 19th, 2008, 10:22 AM

Just paid for my EX1 and am now looking into the Kensington Reader and the Sandisk cards. Sorry if this seems redundant but the thread is so long and developments swift... am I still best off with the Kensington Card Reader number K33407 (EU) and the Sandisk Ultra II 16GB 15 mb/s cards?

Jeroen

Alex Raskin · November 19th, 2008, 10:34 AM

Yes, use either Sandisk:

Kensington adapter + Sandisk card

or Transcend (cheaper, works the same):

Kensington adapter (shows in-stock now!) + Transcend card

James Dierx · November 19th, 2008, 10:36 AM

Jeroen I believe you are correct. Although I have not tested it, but playing close attention to this thread that seems like the best working substitute.

I got my Sandisk Ultra IIs on amazon.. going to Microcenter today to pick up my Kensington readers :D

Thank you everybody for your hard work.

Peter Kraft · November 19th, 2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah Yuan-Vogel

expresscard adapter for ex1 and cf adapter for 5dmk2, only the sdhc card moves around.

Noah, where did you find a cf-sdhc adapter?
Who ist the manufacturer? Any links you can give? Thx.

Andrew Stone · November 19th, 2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeroen Wolf

Just paid for my EX1 and am now looking into the Kensington Reader and the Sandisk cards. Sorry if this seems redundant but the thread is so long and developments swift... am I still best off with the Kensington Card Reader number K33407 (EU) and the Sandisk Ultra II 16GB 15 mb/s cards?

Jeroen

You better hurry up! The availability of the Kensington 7-in-1 reader is very, very slim.

The rumor is that Kensington has discontinued the reader. I would suggest looking around pronto and maybe jones around some of the other forums with threads related to this topic you might find out some valuable information on a place to get one.

EDIT:

I see Alex has found some for you on Amazon. Quick!

Jeroen Wolf · November 19th, 2008, 01:29 PM

I can find plenty here in the Netherlands- maybe I should collect them and start a little business on the side... ;-)

I'm getting 2 8 gig S&S cards. Two extra 16 gig SDHC cards should get me thru most shooting situation... or should I get 4 SDHC cards? Really not looking forward to cutting all those cards in half though... (just watched that most interesting demo video of a 'madman' doing a job on a 16 gig card with a pair of scissors.)

Steve Shovlar · November 19th, 2008, 03:09 PM

Jeroen, I am selling two 16Gb SxS cards at the moment at £400 each. A real bargain as they have hardly been used. Anyone interested message me.

As for the Ultra 32Gb cards, I have just had an email from the supplier in the Uk who says they are not yet in the country. So much for getting my hands on one before the end of the month! Be lucky to see one this side of the New year.

Ola Christoffersson · November 19th, 2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeroen Wolf

(just watched that most interesting demo video of a 'madman' doing a job on a 16 gig card with a pair of scissors.)

Can you give us a link? I did not think it was possible to cut down the size on them to make it possible to close the door on the EX1.

Peter Kraft · November 19th, 2008, 03:43 PM

Ola, here it is:

SDHC card shaving | Fohdeesha Media

Enjoy

Noah Yuan-Vogel · November 19th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Just ordered another adapter and card. Amazons linked to thenerds.com who had 2 left so i got another one, im a little worried that they will be discontinued and not be available anymore. also dell.com has 16gb sandisk ultra ii sdhc for $50 so i grabbed another one of those.

anyone interested in buying 2 lightly used 8GB Sony SxS cards from me? :)

November 18th, 2008, 09:15 PM	#946
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	Just upgraded my firmware and picked up a kensington adapter ($34.43 at buy.com) and 16gb sandisk ultra ii sdhc (~$65 at adorama). overall very impressed at how easy it was. im surprised the setup doesnt support 60fps overcranking given the card is rated at 15MBps by sandisk and my computer benchmarks it at 17MBps read and write. maybe i should do a benchmark reading the card through my ex1 to my computer over usb, i bet the camera isnt getting all it can out of the card. oh well. i am debating maybe buying a whole bunch of these cards and a cf-sdhc adapter so i can use the same sdhc media for the ex1 and the 5dmk2 (when it actually ships, i preordered 2 months ago). might be nice to have faster cf media, though, since it could double the speed of offloading footage, but at 3x the price.

November 18th, 2008, 09:28 PM	#947
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Noah, it's buried in these posts. But after a LOT of testing we're fairly certain the datarate limitation for USB over the EX expresscard slot is a Sony issue. Or, Sony intentionally limited this datarate, which is what I believe.

November 18th, 2008, 09:31 PM	#948
Evan Meades Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 68	Hi Noah, I don't think it would work with the 5Dmk2 as the door needs to be shut before the camera accesses the card...unless you can bodge up the door's sensor! Plus it would stick out a mile on the 5D! Evan

November 18th, 2008, 09:33 PM	#949
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	I think Noah means putting the SDHC card in another adapter, this time CF-SDHC. Noah, do you know if CF-SDHC are actually available? I have CF to SD, but it does not work with SDHC cards. Dan

November 19th, 2008, 07:53 AM	#950
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	yeah sorry maybe i wasnt clear, i was talking about putting a cf-sdhc adapter in the 5d and putting only the sdhc in it. expresscard adapter for ex1 and cf adapter for 5dmk2, only the sdhc card moves around.

November 19th, 2008, 10:22 AM	#951
Jeroen Wolf Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 355	Just paid for my EX1 and am now looking into the Kensington Reader and the Sandisk cards. Sorry if this seems redundant but the thread is so long and developments swift... am I still best off with the Kensington Card Reader number K33407 (EU) and the Sandisk Ultra II 16GB 15 mb/s cards? Jeroen

November 19th, 2008, 10:34 AM	#952
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Yes, use either Sandisk: Kensington adapter + Sandisk card or Transcend (cheaper, works the same): Kensington adapter (shows in-stock now!) + Transcend card

November 19th, 2008, 10:36 AM	#953
James Dierx Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: IL Posts: 43	Jeroen I believe you are correct. Although I have not tested it, but playing close attention to this thread that seems like the best working substitute. I got my Sandisk Ultra IIs on amazon.. going to Microcenter today to pick up my Kensington readers :D Thank you everybody for your hard work.

November 19th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#956
Jeroen Wolf Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 355	I can find plenty here in the Netherlands- maybe I should collect them and start a little business on the side... ;-) I'm getting 2 8 gig S&S cards. Two extra 16 gig SDHC cards should get me thru most shooting situation... or should I get 4 SDHC cards? Really not looking forward to cutting all those cards in half though... (just watched that most interesting demo video of a 'madman' doing a job on a 16 gig card with a pair of scissors.)

November 19th, 2008, 03:09 PM	#957
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	Jeroen, I am selling two 16Gb SxS cards at the moment at £400 each. A real bargain as they have hardly been used. Anyone interested message me. As for the Ultra 32Gb cards, I have just had an email from the supplier in the Uk who says they are not yet in the country. So much for getting my hands on one before the end of the month! Be lucky to see one this side of the New year.

November 19th, 2008, 03:43 PM	#959
Peter Kraft Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 245	Ola, here it is: SDHC card shaving \| Fohdeesha Media Enjoy

November 19th, 2008, 03:54 PM	#960
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	Just ordered another adapter and card. Amazons linked to thenerds.com who had 2 left so i got another one, im a little worried that they will be discontinued and not be available anymore. also dell.com has 16gb sandisk ultra ii sdhc for $50 so i grabbed another one of those. anyone interested in buying 2 lightly used 8GB Sony SxS cards from me? :)