SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Barry J. Anwender · October 25th, 2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ted OMalley

I tried to order from each of the five stores listed as having stock on Amazon.co.uk - and each time I got this warning:

Important Messages
We're sorry. One or more items can't be delivered to your selected destination. Please sign in to change the delivery address or delete the item(s) from your order.

They won't ship electronics to the US - very odd.

I received the same message this morning but I figured that wouldn't send to Canada. I'll just have to be patient with my current backordered items. It's a "bugger" to have a new camera with only 8Gb of storage. Also waiting for my rebate 8Gb SxS card.

I light of the current economic situation, it may be a very long wait, especially if Kensington is one of the manufacturer's who have laid off its employees.

Giroud Francois · October 25th, 2008, 09:20 AM

searched Kensington for europe. There are some on amazon, but unfortunately amazon shops are splitted into countries (.de, .uk., .fr) and you can't get the .UK shop delivering into the .FR (France) or .DE (Germany) region. So far, only Uk guys are lucky.
Tried a search on IT shop and found a few in france with stock, but nowhere else, all switzerland is out of stock for example.
Looks like Sony has already purchased all of them.....
Anyway locked 4 of them from 2 different French shops, so let's see. (i will get 2 of them for sale if all are delivered).

Erik Phairas · October 25th, 2008, 10:32 AM

Interesting. The place where I bought my 7 in 1 reader (a major US retail office supply chain) says it has low availability but does not say it's out of stock. But if I try to add it to my cart, it says it is not available for my area.. Funny, but I thought that is what shipping is for? It won't even give me that option anymore.

Maybe Sony did pull a fast one..

Ted OMalley · October 25th, 2008, 11:06 AM

Yeah, I had the same trouble.

I can't really imagine Sony doing that - it would be such a temorary fix! I mean, if it sells, suddenly a bunch of brands start manufacturing them. Sony can't buy them all!

Brian Rhodes · October 25th, 2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

Ron, any update on the i<dot>Connect 18-in-1 reader with the EX?

Would you say it is dependable as the Kensington 7-in-1?

If so, this "may" be our new favorite if the Kensingtons do not start taking stock.

I bought one of these at Fry’s a while back MY Ex1 would not recognize it.

I was in circuit city yester day they had SanDisk 8gb Duo cards for $34.99 got to the register range up $109.99 the sign was in the wrong place so they gave it to me for $34.99, there is also $20.00 rebate from SanDisk. I bought it for my son's PSP decided to try it with the Kensingtons formatted the card and it works, but you have to use the SD Adapter sticks out slightly further than the SDHC card.

Steven Thomas · October 25th, 2008, 11:37 AM

Hmm..
Brian, I wonder if that idotconnect card was defective, or some how a different card than Ronn mentioned?

Did it have a large Star on it with the manufacture PPA?

Brian Rhodes · October 25th, 2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

Hmm..
Brian, I wonder if that idotconnect card was defective, or some how a different card than Ronn mentioned?

Did it have a large Star on it with the manufacture PPA?

May have been defective. I check Fry's here in Houston Yesterday they do not have them in any of the stores, and I think I read something about the idot on that other forum.

John Peterson · October 25th, 2008, 04:53 PM

MicroCenter has them at some of their locations. They are not available for mail order.

Micro Center - 7-in-1 Media Reader for ExpressCard

Put them in the shopping basket and choose a location. It will tell you how many of them are available at that location. They had two of them at the North Jersey/Paterson location so I ordered them for in-store pickup and drove down to pick them up today.

They also had the 8GB Sandisk Ultra II SDHC cards for $34.99
Micro Center - Ultra II 8GB SDHC High Performance Card

The 16GB card for $69.99 was "on the skid, but not unloaded yet" according to the CSR. Maybe at your location they have them on the shelf.

Micro Center - Ultra II 16GB SDHC High Performance Card

John

Ted OMalley · October 27th, 2008, 07:17 AM

I just received notice that my Kensington cards ordered through Amazon (even though they weren't currently in stock) are shipping.

Ronn Kilby · October 27th, 2008, 08:42 AM

The i-dot-connect card is working fine. No errors. Overcranking on Sony 4GB MemoryStick HG Duo cards up to 56 fps or so at 30p, 48fps at 24p. With Sandisk SDHC 16GB cards, no overcranking but HQ is fine, no errors. Your mileage may vary. :)

Meanwhile I ordered 2 Kensingtons from the Micro Center store in Orange County, and the order is confirmed.

Matt Davis · October 27th, 2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronn Kilby

Overcranking on Sony 4GB MemoryStick HG Duo cards up to 56 fps or so at 30p, 48fps at 24p.

Ahh, now this is good.

Over here, across the pond, we had a little 'MacVideo Live' event where the SDHC method was discussed. The question was raised about Sony 'blocking' this workaround. Somehow.

But if MemorySticks in Sony adaptors can guarantee either as-good or better-than performance than the PHU-60K, then The Faithful can go that route. Okay, so they're not SxS - no error correction, maybe no guaranteed SloMo, but it would work where the PHU-K may stumble.

I've owned a FireStore, and as a result my ambivalence to such technology has crumbled in favour of solid state. SD vs MemoryStick is a Lilliputian debate by comparison.

Steven Thomas · October 27th, 2008, 09:26 AM

So Ronn, the i-dot-connect card will not run 40FPS overcrank (24p) with the SanDisk Ultra II 15MB/s SDHC cards?

Ronn Kilby · October 27th, 2008, 09:57 AM

You are correct, sir. As stated earlier, it craps out after 15 seconds or so.

Joe Diaz · October 27th, 2008, 10:39 AM

I called Kensington on Friday 10/24 and they told me that they do not have any in stock They also said they are still available and that they will be available around mid November. Told them they were popular amongst Sony XDCAM EX1 and EX3 users he seemed interested to know and that he would let his managers know. Maybe we should send them an email or call them to get their attention you know supply and demand.

Perrone Ford · October 27th, 2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Diaz

Maybe we should send them an email or call them to get their attention you know supply and demand.

I'm more interested in the demand/price quotient. I just put in an order for 2 more Kensington's today. My purchasing dept. said that it looked like they had stock. But we'll see. If so, I'll let everyone know where it is... (after mine ships!). :)

October 25th, 2008, 11:06 AM	#739
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	Yeah, I had the same trouble. I can't really imagine Sony doing that - it would be such a temorary fix! I mean, if it sells, suddenly a bunch of brands start manufacturing them. Sony can't buy them all! __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

October 27th, 2008, 07:17 AM	#744
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	I just received notice that my Kensington cards ordered through Amazon (even though they weren't currently in stock) are shipping. __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

October 25th, 2008, 09:20 AM	#737
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	searched Kensington for europe. There are some on amazon, but unfortunately amazon shops are splitted into countries (.de, .uk., .fr) and you can't get the .UK shop delivering into the .FR (France) or .DE (Germany) region. So far, only Uk guys are lucky. Tried a search on IT shop and found a few in france with stock, but nowhere else, all switzerland is out of stock for example. Looks like Sony has already purchased all of them..... Anyway locked 4 of them from 2 different French shops, so let's see. (i will get 2 of them for sale if all are delivered).

October 25th, 2008, 10:32 AM	#738
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Interesting. The place where I bought my 7 in 1 reader (a major US retail office supply chain) says it has low availability but does not say it's out of stock. But if I try to add it to my cart, it says it is not available for my area.. Funny, but I thought that is what shipping is for? It won't even give me that option anymore. Maybe Sony did pull a fast one..

October 25th, 2008, 11:37 AM	#741
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Hmm.. Brian, I wonder if that idotconnect card was defective, or some how a different card than Ronn mentioned? Did it have a large Star on it with the manufacture PPA?

October 25th, 2008, 04:53 PM	#743
John Peterson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Monroe, NY Posts: 703	MicroCenter has them at some of their locations. They are not available for mail order. Micro Center - 7-in-1 Media Reader for ExpressCard Put them in the shopping basket and choose a location. It will tell you how many of them are available at that location. They had two of them at the North Jersey/Paterson location so I ordered them for in-store pickup and drove down to pick them up today. They also had the 8GB Sandisk Ultra II SDHC cards for $34.99 Micro Center - Ultra II 8GB SDHC High Performance Card The 16GB card for $69.99 was "on the skid, but not unloaded yet" according to the CSR. Maybe at your location they have them on the shelf. Micro Center - Ultra II 16GB SDHC High Performance Card John

October 27th, 2008, 08:42 AM	#745
Ronn Kilby Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fletcher Hills, CA Posts: 211	The i-dot-connect card is working fine. No errors. Overcranking on Sony 4GB MemoryStick HG Duo cards up to 56 fps or so at 30p, 48fps at 24p. With Sandisk SDHC 16GB cards, no overcranking but HQ is fine, no errors. Your mileage may vary. :) Meanwhile I ordered 2 Kensingtons from the Micro Center store in Orange County, and the order is confirmed.

October 27th, 2008, 09:26 AM	#747
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	So Ronn, the i-dot-connect card will not run 40FPS overcrank (24p) with the SanDisk Ultra II 15MB/s SDHC cards?

October 27th, 2008, 09:57 AM	#748
Ronn Kilby Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fletcher Hills, CA Posts: 211	You are correct, sir. As stated earlier, it craps out after 15 seconds or so.

October 27th, 2008, 10:39 AM	#749
Joe Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 25	I called Kensington on Friday 10/24 and they told me that they do not have any in stock They also said they are still available and that they will be available around mid November. Told them they were popular amongst Sony XDCAM EX1 and EX3 users he seemed interested to know and that he would let his managers know. Maybe we should send them an email or call them to get their attention you know supply and demand.