SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Brian Rhodes · October 12th, 2008, 07:56 PM

I had to pull the Trandscend 8 GB card in and out about four times before the cam recognized it. I tried to insert another card with IOC-9750 adapter into slot B while slot A was recording. Error message Slot A restore Media. This adapter may work better with the Sandisk cards. I do not have any to test still waiting on my (4) 32gb Sandisk SDHC cards to arrive.

Ditto Steve I'm sticking with the Kensington too.

Alex Raskin · October 12th, 2008, 08:29 PM

Hmmm...

With Sandisk Extreme III, the only issue I had with IOC was that when you switched the EX1 from camera to media player mode, you'd have to pull the IOC adapter out, then reinsert it back in - because *sometimes* the cam would not see it otherwise.

Thomas Diehl · October 13th, 2008, 07:06 AM

Sandisk Ultra II 15Mb/s seems to be working best as SxS alternative - but:
I would like to buy cards (about 20 to 30) that work with both:
nanoFlash and EX (with Kensington-adapter)

For nanoFlash
http://convergent-design.com/
recommend
Transcend 32GB Compact Flash Card (133X Speed)
http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/I...mID=TS32GCF133

They have not tested any other cards with it.
Will the Transcend 32GB Compact Flash Card (133X Speed) be o.k. as SxS replacement using with a kensington adapter? Convergent say they are the cheapest cards and "have sufficient performance for data-rates up to 100 Mbps (Long-GOP or I-Frame)."

Is there anybody else who wants to buy nanoFlash and is facing the same problem: What cards to buy for BOTH?

Bill Ravens · October 13th, 2008, 07:14 AM

Thomas...
The Kensington uses SDHC cards. nanoFlash uses CF cards. Two different beasts.

Piotr Wozniacki · October 13th, 2008, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Diehl

Is there anybody else who wants to buy nanoFlash and is facing the same problem: What cards to buy for BOTH?

A very important point, Thomas - I'm in the same boat :)

Matt Davis · October 13th, 2008, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

Two different beasts.

Google "SD card in Compact Flash adaptor" - Russian Doll meets High Tech Storage.

Rats, I'm now cursed because I can't stop hearing 'Dem Bones' rattling around in my brain. The SD's connected to the... Compact Flash; the Compact Flash is connected to the... PCI Bus; and so on.

Brian Rhodes · October 13th, 2008, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Diehl

Sandisk Ultra II 15Mb/s seems to be working best as SxS alternative - but:
I would like to buy cards (about 20 to 30) that work with both:
nanoFlash and EX (with Kensington-adapter)

For nanoFlash
HDV To HD-SDI Video Converters Professional Video Equipment HDMI To HD-SDI Television Studio Equipment
recommend
Transcend 32GB Compact Flash Card (133X Speed)
http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/I...mID=TS32GCF133

They have not tested any other cards with it.
Will the Transcend 32GB Compact Flash Card (133X Speed) be o.k. as SxS replacement using with a kensington adapter? Convergent say they are the cheapest cards and "have sufficient performance for data-rates up to 100 Mbps (Long-GOP or I-Frame)."

Is there anybody else who wants to buy nanoFlash and is facing the same problem: What cards to buy for BOTH?

You can not use compact flash cards with the Kensington adapter. We are using the SDHC cards. I have tried several compact flash adapters with the Ex1 None have worked so far and the cards stick to far out of the cam with the compact flash adapters.

These cards are so cheap compared to the SXS just buy two sets SDHC and Compact flash and call it a day.

Bill Ravens · October 13th, 2008, 07:34 AM

SDHC cards are so cheap, they're practically disposable. If you're used to archiving projects on a hard drive, it's cheaper and easier to store and archive on SDHC cards.

Craig Seeman · October 13th, 2008, 08:34 AM

I'm I missing something in the math?

1.5 TB hard drive is $190
Two DL-DVD (16GB) is a little over $4
How is 16GB SDHC cost per GB cheaper than either?
Now if you're comparing the cost of SDHC compared to HDCAM tape maybe that's competitive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

SDHC cards are so cheap, they're practically disposable. If you're used to archiving projects on a hard drive, it's cheaper and easier to store and archive on SDHC cards.

Bill Ravens · October 13th, 2008, 08:37 AM

What I meant was that they are cheap enough to be used for archiving, not that they're cheaper than a hard drive. . That's what I'm doing in my business; and, my customers are happy with that solution. Each customer buys their own archival media. Given the choice, most of my customers opt for SDHC over a hard drive or SxS card.
In the context of this thread, my point is that worrying about using the same flash media on nanoflash and a Kensington type card reader is rather a waste of time.

Gotta love the way the internet is so argumentative.

Ted OMalley · October 13th, 2008, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Daviss

Google "SD card in Compact Flash adaptor" - Russian Doll meets High Tech Storage.

Rats, I'm now cursed because I can't stop hearing 'Dem Bones' rattling around in my brain. The SD's connected to the... Compact Flash; the Compact Flash is connected to the... PCI Bus; and so on.

Damn, now I'm cursed to! Very funny!

Ted OMalley · October 13th, 2008, 10:55 AM

I'm no longer interested in measley 32GB card solutions. Here is what I've put together.

;-)

Sure takes care of the weight distribution problem.

Brian Rhodes · October 13th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Ted will it work with the EX1?

Ted OMalley · October 13th, 2008, 03:48 PM

Only if you have updated the firmware.

;-)

Brian Rhodes · October 14th, 2008, 07:18 AM

Has anyone tried this Card Sandisk HD 16gb?

SDSDHV016GA15 SanDisk 16 GB Video HD SDHC Memory Card

October 13th, 2008, 07:06 AM	#573
Thomas Diehl Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 38	Cards that will work with both: nanoFlash and EX (SxS alternative) Sandisk Ultra II 15Mb/s seems to be working best as SxS alternative - but: I would like to buy cards (about 20 to 30) that work with both: nanoFlash and EX (with Kensington-adapter) For nanoFlash http://convergent-design.com/ recommend Transcend 32GB Compact Flash Card (133X Speed) http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/I...mID=TS32GCF133 They have not tested any other cards with it. Will the Transcend 32GB Compact Flash Card (133X Speed) be o.k. as SxS replacement using with a kensington adapter? Convergent say they are the cheapest cards and "have sufficient performance for data-rates up to 100 Mbps (Long-GOP or I-Frame)." Is there anybody else who wants to buy nanoFlash and is facing the same problem: What cards to buy for BOTH?

October 13th, 2008, 08:37 AM	#580
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	What I meant was that they are cheap enough to be used for archiving, not that they're cheaper than a hard drive. . That's what I'm doing in my business; and, my customers are happy with that solution. Each customer buys their own archival media. Given the choice, most of my customers opt for SDHC over a hard drive or SxS card. In the context of this thread, my point is that worrying about using the same flash media on nanoflash and a Kensington type card reader is rather a waste of time. Gotta love the way the internet is so argumentative. Last edited by Bill Ravens; October 13th, 2008 at 09:54 AM.

October 13th, 2008, 10:55 AM	#582
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	I'm no longer interested in measley 32GB card solutions. Here is what I've put together. ;-) Sure takes care of the weight distribution problem. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

October 13th, 2008, 03:48 PM	#584
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	Only if you have updated the firmware. ;-) __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

October 14th, 2008, 07:18 AM	#585
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	Sandisk HD 16gb Has anyone tried this Card Sandisk HD 16gb? SDSDHV016GA15 SanDisk 16 GB Video HD SDHC Memory Card

October 12th, 2008, 07:56 PM	#571
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	I had to pull the Trandscend 8 GB card in and out about four times before the cam recognized it. I tried to insert another card with IOC-9750 adapter into slot B while slot A was recording. Error message Slot A restore Media. This adapter may work better with the Sandisk cards. I do not have any to test still waiting on my (4) 32gb Sandisk SDHC cards to arrive. Ditto Steve I'm sticking with the Kensington too.

October 12th, 2008, 08:29 PM	#572
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Hmmm... With Sandisk Extreme III, the only issue I had with IOC was that when you switched the EX1 from camera to media player mode, you'd have to pull the IOC adapter out, then reinsert it back in - because sometimes the cam would not see it otherwise.

October 13th, 2008, 07:14 AM	#574
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Thomas... The Kensington uses SDHC cards. nanoFlash uses CF cards. Two different beasts.

October 13th, 2008, 07:34 AM	#578
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	SDHC cards are so cheap, they're practically disposable. If you're used to archiving projects on a hard drive, it's cheaper and easier to store and archive on SDHC cards.

October 13th, 2008, 03:33 PM	#583
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	Ted will it work with the EX1?