SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Steven Thomas · October 9th, 2008, 12:24 PM

none so far.
The AFT will allow the door to close, but is not fast enough. It errors in HQ modes, it probably will even error in SP modes.

Alex Raskin · October 9th, 2008, 01:06 PM

Is it critical to have the door closed?

If both adapters are inserted, aren't they already protecting contacts from any possible dust etc.?

Plus, I do not see the open door blocking anything vital, nor does it seem to rattle at all.

And, if Kingston or Cables Unlimited are listening, they may be able to come up with an adapter that lets the card sit in about 3mm deeper to let EX1's door close...

Chris Leong · October 9th, 2008, 01:14 PM

Alex
Probably not, I'm just worried about the boor breaking off if used in a run and gun situation.

Paul Newman · October 9th, 2008, 03:44 PM

I mailed AFT and got a huge nothing from them - mass produced in China and badged, so they probably have zero leverage, although I must say the build quality ( physical ) is far better with the fully inserted click shut feel of the card, shame they're not reliable,

Paul

Ethan Piliavin · October 10th, 2008, 01:26 AM

Wow, I just found this post and my heart is racing. I was about to buy the PHU-60K and now I just got some IOC-9750 readers and four sandisk 16gb Ultra II cards for a fraction of the price. And the cost will only continue to decline!

64gb < $300 , HA!

I cant wait until everything comes in!

One question, do you format the cards on your PC or do you format them on the camera?
Is it the same procedure after the first time they are used? (Do I still need to delete things using clip browser, shotput, or the camera itself?) Or can I delet on the PC by formatting, etc..

Alex Raskin · October 10th, 2008, 01:49 AM

Ethan, camera formats the cards.

Then, my workflow is to offload/backup the footage using Shotput, and let Shotput format the card in the end (this obviously empties the card and makes it ready for the next recording in camera.)

Paul Kellett · October 10th, 2008, 04:48 AM

Ethan, just treat the sdhc card and adaptor the same way as you'd treat the sxs card.
Pull the whole lot out of the slot, not just the sd card or the camera gets confused, thinks you've removed card from slot (b) when when you've removed card from slot (a).

So, remove whole card and adaptor, change sd card in adaptor, put adaptor and empty card back in.

Paul.

Alister Chapman · October 10th, 2008, 05:22 AM

I have not been able to get the transcend 8Gb SSD card to work in my EX3. Initialy it appeared to work but as it filled up it started throwing up media errors, eventually asking to restore the card, which I have not been able to do. So if others are really getting transcend SSD cards to work I'de love to know the part number as I would like to get a few for my EX1.

Paul Kellett · October 10th, 2008, 05:32 AM

Alistair.
The supplier where i get my cards has the ssd cards, i think they're transcend.
They definitley stock them because i tried one in my EX1 when i was there.
They also have in stock some faster transcend sdhc cards, (150 x speed).
The shop is called "shop4usb", they're an ebay shop, usually i wouldn't buy memory from an ebay shop but they're only 1 mile from my house and will sell over the counter, so that's what i did.

eBay UK Shop - shop4usb: Memory Card, USB Flash Drive, MP3 Player

Here's the link. Chris has gave me the "ok" to post it.

Paul.

Steven Thomas · October 10th, 2008, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

I have not been able to get the transcend 8Gb SSD card to work in my EX3. Initialy it appeared to work but as it filled up it started throwing up media errors, eventually asking to restore the card, which I have not been able to do. So if others are really getting transcend SSD cards to work I'de love to know the part number as I would like to get a few for my EX1.

Someone on the "other" forum made "one" post that the Transcend SSD 8GB and 32GB worked in the EX.

Well, I responded asking if it works in HQ mode and how high can you overcrank before it errors. He never posted back. I have a feeling he posted to soon without more testing.

Paul Kellett · October 10th, 2008, 08:20 AM

I tried the transcend SSD, i got errors at 38fps.
Didn't try it with HQ mode.
I was happy to buy the tried and tested transcend sdhc so didn't pursue the ssd any further.

Paul.

John Peterson · October 10th, 2008, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Raskin

Ethan, camera formats the cards.

Then, my workflow is to offload/backup the footage using Shotput, and let Shotput format the card in the end (this obviously empties the card and makes it ready for the next recording in camera.)

Alex,

Were you the one who took the camera to Teaneck for the firmware upgrade? If so, did they charge you for it and how were they for the other warranty upgrades? Did you actually have to have something wrong with the camera for them to do the upgrades for free?

John

Lou Kulynych · October 10th, 2008, 11:30 AM

Hi John, I took my EX1 to Teaneck Sony Service and picked it up three weeks later. I only paid $100 for the firmware update. I also got my battery problem fixed and some other stuff was replaced that I am not aware of.

Craig Seeman · October 10th, 2008, 12:08 PM

Three weeks! Please don't tell me it took that long for the firmware upgrade and the circuit board replacement for the battery drain! That's what I need done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou Kulynych

Hi John, I took my EX1 to Teaneck Sony Service and picked it up three weeks later. I only paid $100 for the firmware update. I also got my battery problem fixed and some other stuff was replaced that I am not aware of.

Lou Kulynych · October 10th, 2008, 01:36 PM

Yes Three Weeks!!! A boy did it stink! I had a very busy September and ended up using and abusing my Canon XH-A1. If you have a backup camera to use then I suggest you drive you EX1 into Teaneck (that's if you're in Brooklyn) and be ready for a three week wait.

October 9th, 2008, 01:14 PM	#528
Chris Leong Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles CA USA Posts: 507	Alex Probably not, I'm just worried about the boor breaking off if used in a run and gun situation. __________________ "The content, not the container."

October 9th, 2008, 03:44 PM	#529
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	I mailed AFT and got a huge nothing from them - mass produced in China and badged, so they probably have zero leverage, although I must say the build quality ( physical ) is far better with the fully inserted click shut feel of the card, shame they're not reliable, Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

October 10th, 2008, 04:48 AM	#532
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	Ethan, just treat the sdhc card and adaptor the same way as you'd treat the sxs card. Pull the whole lot out of the slot, not just the sd card or the camera gets confused, thinks you've removed card from slot (b) when when you've removed card from slot (a). So, remove whole card and adaptor, change sd card in adaptor, put adaptor and empty card back in. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

October 10th, 2008, 05:22 AM	#533
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	I have not been able to get the transcend 8Gb SSD card to work in my EX3. Initialy it appeared to work but as it filled up it started throwing up media errors, eventually asking to restore the card, which I have not been able to do. So if others are really getting transcend SSD cards to work I'de love to know the part number as I would like to get a few for my EX1. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

October 10th, 2008, 05:32 AM	#534
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	Alistair. The supplier where i get my cards has the ssd cards, i think they're transcend. They definitley stock them because i tried one in my EX1 when i was there. They also have in stock some faster transcend sdhc cards, (150 x speed). The shop is called "shop4usb", they're an ebay shop, usually i wouldn't buy memory from an ebay shop but they're only 1 mile from my house and will sell over the counter, so that's what i did. eBay UK Shop - shop4usb: Memory Card, USB Flash Drive, MP3 Player Here's the link. Chris has gave me the "ok" to post it. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

October 9th, 2008, 12:24 PM	#526
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	none so far. The AFT will allow the door to close, but is not fast enough. It errors in HQ modes, it probably will even error in SP modes.

October 9th, 2008, 01:06 PM	#527
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Is it critical to have the door closed? If both adapters are inserted, aren't they already protecting contacts from any possible dust etc.? Plus, I do not see the open door blocking anything vital, nor does it seem to rattle at all. And, if Kingston or Cables Unlimited are listening, they may be able to come up with an adapter that lets the card sit in about 3mm deeper to let EX1's door close...

October 10th, 2008, 01:26 AM	#530
Ethan Piliavin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 19	Wow, I just found this post and my heart is racing. I was about to buy the PHU-60K and now I just got some IOC-9750 readers and four sandisk 16gb Ultra II cards for a fraction of the price. And the cost will only continue to decline! 64gb < $300 , HA! I cant wait until everything comes in! One question, do you format the cards on your PC or do you format them on the camera? Is it the same procedure after the first time they are used? (Do I still need to delete things using clip browser, shotput, or the camera itself?) Or can I delet on the PC by formatting, etc..

October 10th, 2008, 01:49 AM	#531
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Ethan, camera formats the cards. Then, my workflow is to offload/backup the footage using Shotput, and let Shotput format the card in the end (this obviously empties the card and makes it ready for the next recording in camera.)

October 10th, 2008, 08:20 AM	#536
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	I tried the transcend SSD, i got errors at 38fps. Didn't try it with HQ mode. I was happy to buy the tried and tested transcend sdhc so didn't pursue the ssd any further. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000 Last edited by Paul Kellett; October 10th, 2008 at 08:21 AM. Reason: .

October 10th, 2008, 11:30 AM	#538
Lou Kulynych New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Staten Island New York Posts: 23	Taking Camera to Teaneck Hi John, I took my EX1 to Teaneck Sony Service and picked it up three weeks later. I only paid $100 for the firmware update. I also got my battery problem fixed and some other stuff was replaced that I am not aware of.

October 10th, 2008, 01:36 PM	#540
Lou Kulynych New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Staten Island New York Posts: 23	Taking Camera to Teaneck Yes Three Weeks!!! A boy did it stink! I had a very busy September and ended up using and abusing my Canon XH-A1. If you have a backup camera to use then I suggest you drive you EX1 into Teaneck (that's if you're in Brooklyn) and be ready for a three week wait.