SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Keith Moreau · September 28th, 2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola Christoffersson

Yes, i realise that but according to the page I linked to it has (quote) "Push-In Push-Out Connector For Easy Removal".
That suggests that the SD card would fit deeper inside the card allowing the door to close.

I cannot recall reading about anybody testing this adapter yet, or am I wrong?

All Expresscards have the same external dimensions. This allows them to sit flush when inserted into a Expresscard reader. The picture looks a lot like the casing of the AFT adapter, which does allow the door to close but I've found is flakey. There could be different firmware / chips in the card that might make it work better than the AFT. If you do order it, please let us know the results.

Scott Hayes · September 28th, 2008, 04:21 PM

how many adapters are you guys buying to use? 1 of 2? a pair of 16gb
is the cats meow.

Erik Phairas · September 28th, 2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Hayes

how many adapters are you guys buying to use? 1 of 2? a pair of 16gb
is the cats meow.

I ordered 2, I plan on using them together. I'll keep a SxS card handy though. Since this topic is directly related, I am still learning Vegas... how to you under and over crank through software? I heard you get better results that way anyhow.

Steven Thomas · September 28th, 2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Moreau

With the Sandisk Extreme III I got errors, I can't remember exactly which ones but basically so often that I decided it was too unreliable.

Since the Extreme III does not work at all in the AFT expresscard adaptor, maybe you forgot how it failed.

Until I hear from someone regarding using the SanDisk Ultra II SDHC in the AFT, I would not trust the AFT adaptor.

My AFT works good for about 20 minutes before it fails. It seems like it may be a thermal problem, but without buying another or hearing from someone who has the AFT and Ultra II, I'll never know.

I can say that I've been testing the Kensington with the SanDisk Ultra II 4GB SDHC and the SanDisk 16GB Extreme III 30MB/s version SDHC for about two weeks with NO errors!

Scott Hayes · September 28th, 2008, 05:40 PM

i wish these tests were conclusive before i bought 8 of the Lexar SSD cards. oh well, at least I can close the door, and still have 6hrs worth capture time, even if it is at 1080i60
(since my other camera is a Z1)

Tim Lenz · September 28th, 2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

I can say that I've been testing the Kensington with the SanDisk Ultra II 4GB SDHC and the SanDisk 16GB Extreme III 30MB/s version SDHC for about two weeks with NO errors!

Steven,
You mention Ultra II 4GB in your previous, post, however I believe you mentioned the Ultra II 16GB in other posts. Are you have error free results in the Ultra II 16GB?

Steven Thomas · September 28th, 2008, 08:25 PM

Since I'm using both the 16GB extreme III and 4GB Ultra II, I may typo the 16 on the wrong card... ? Hope not..

I mentioned it was the 4GB a while back.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/943222-post169.html

Well, if so. I'd say there's a very good chance that the 16GB Ultra II will work equal to the 4GB Ultra II in the Kensington. They both claim the same spec. I will know soon.

In fact, someone just posted at the other forum that the 16GB Ultra II is working fine with the Kensington reader.

Tim Lenz · September 28th, 2008, 08:29 PM

I am new to the expresscard media so please excuse me if this is a totally different beast. I saw this Lexar 16GB express card for $77 at newegg. Could this work in the EX1? Has anyone tried it? It is 1/10 the cost of the Sony and Sandisk express cards.

Lexar EX16GB-431 16GB ExpressCard External Solid state disk (SSD)

Brian Rhodes · September 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM

Kensington 7 in 1 Media Reader for ExpressCard Slot" model number 33407EU
W/ Transend 8gb SDHC model ts8gsdhc6 SDHC cards & Scandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme III cards. WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 & EX3 SP AND HQ MODES. (Best so far)
Transend 8GB & 16GB 24P slomo 38FPS max, Scandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme III 24P slomo
40FPS max.

Lexar 8GB SSD Express Card
WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY

Kensington 8GB SDHC CARD WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 & EX3 SP AND HQ MODES

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lexar 16Gb SSD Express Card This card is slower than the 8gb
WORKS WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY error message no lost of data

SIGG 11/1 EXPRESS READER 11in1 ExpressCard Reader
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11

Transend 8gb 16gb 32GB SSD Express card
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 or EX3

EXPRESS CARD TO COMPACT FLASH ADAPTER
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 EX3?

SONY MSACEX1 MEMORY STICK(R) DUO EXPRESSCARD(TM) ADAPTER
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 EX3?

SIGG 11/1 EXPRESS READER 11in1 Express Card Reader
WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11

AFT EXPRESS READER does work in the EX1 with some SDHC memory other than the new Sandisk Extreme III 30MB/s.. The problem is, it has occasional memory errors

PROExpress 7 in 1 reader w/ Panasonic 8GB SDHC,
Media Error around:20 min (restored, clips were all fine)

CFExpressPro+ PCIe ExpressCard to CompactFlash Memory Card Adapter 2.5Gbps
TESTED WITH Sony 306x 46mb/s CF CARD , TRANSEND 32GB CF CARD X133, Scandisk 4GB EXTREME 4
UNKNOWN MEDIA WILL NOT WORK.
Maplin SD Express reader does not work

I Ordered two 32GB Ultra II Sandisk cards after testing I will put this data in an Excel Spread sheet format PDF

Steven Thomas · September 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM

Thanks Brian

Let us know how the SanDisk 32GB Ultra II 15MB/s SDHC card works with the Kensington.
If it can overcrank repeatably at 40FPS this will be great news.

When will you receive the 32GB Ultra II SDHC cards?

Tim Lenz · September 28th, 2008, 10:33 PM

As Brian indicates:
Lexar 16Gb SSD Express Card This card is slower than the 8gb
WORKS WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY error message no lost of data

If this works, why not use it instead of an adapter that does not allow the door to close? Does this allow the door to close? I would think it is a standard size and would.

Tim Lenz · September 28th, 2008, 10:43 PM

Re-reading Brian's info, does the following mean the Lexar only works in SP mode with both the EX1 and EX3? Or does the SP limitation only apply to the EX3?

John Woo · September 29th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Lenz

As Brian indicates:
Lexar 16Gb SSD Express Card This card is slower than the 8gb
WORKS WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY error message no lost of data

If this works, why not use it instead of an adapter that does not allow the door to close? Does this allow the door to close? I would think it is a standard size and would.

Yes I have the Lexar 8GB card and the size is identical to those Sony ones meaning the door can be fully close

Steve Shovlar · September 29th, 2008, 01:10 AM

I have ordered the SanDisk 32GB Ultra II 15MB/s SDHC card and it's due out this week in the UK. (The website says last week September so I hope there's no delays)

I have already got a Kensington so will post my results as soon as the Sandisk arrives.

Paul Newman · September 29th, 2008, 01:47 AM

LEXAR 8GB SSD speed test with Crystaldiskmark:

33.53 - 8.46
33.41 - 1.68
6.53 - 0.016

This card errors even in HQ mode - only reliable in SP mode - not recommended !

Paul

September 28th, 2008, 08:25 PM	#352
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Since I'm using both the 16GB extreme III and 4GB Ultra II, I may typo the 16 on the wrong card... ? Hope not.. I mentioned it was the 4GB a while back. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/943222-post169.html Well, if so. I'd say there's a very good chance that the 16GB Ultra II will work equal to the 4GB Ultra II in the Kensington. They both claim the same spec. I will know soon. In fact, someone just posted at the other forum that the 16GB Ultra II is working fine with the Kensington reader. Last edited by Steven Thomas; September 28th, 2008 at 09:42 PM.

September 29th, 2008, 01:47 AM	#360
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	LEXAR 8GB SSD speed test with Crystaldiskmark: 33.53 - 8.46 33.41 - 1.68 6.53 - 0.016 This card errors even in HQ mode - only reliable in SP mode - not recommended ! Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

September 28th, 2008, 04:21 PM	#347
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	how many adapters are you guys buying to use? 1 of 2? a pair of 16gb is the cats meow.

September 28th, 2008, 05:40 PM	#350
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	i wish these tests were conclusive before i bought 8 of the Lexar SSD cards. oh well, at least I can close the door, and still have 6hrs worth capture time, even if it is at 1080i60 (since my other camera is a Z1)

September 28th, 2008, 08:29 PM	#353
Tim Lenz New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Appleton WI Posts: 21	I am new to the expresscard media so please excuse me if this is a totally different beast. I saw this Lexar 16GB express card for $77 at newegg. Could this work in the EX1? Has anyone tried it? It is 1/10 the cost of the Sony and Sandisk express cards. Lexar EX16GB-431 16GB ExpressCard External Solid state disk (SSD)

September 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM	#354
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	Kensington 7 in 1 Media Reader for ExpressCard Slot" model number 33407EU W/ Transend 8gb SDHC model ts8gsdhc6 SDHC cards & Scandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme III cards. WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 & EX3 SP AND HQ MODES. (Best so far) Transend 8GB & 16GB 24P slomo 38FPS max, Scandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme III 24P slomo 40FPS max. Lexar 8GB SSD Express Card WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY Kensington 8GB SDHC CARD WORKING WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 & EX3 SP AND HQ MODES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lexar 16Gb SSD Express Card This card is slower than the 8gb WORKS WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY error message no lost of data SIGG 11/1 EXPRESS READER 11in1 ExpressCard Reader WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 Transend 8gb 16gb 32GB SSD Express card WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 or EX3 EXPRESS CARD TO COMPACT FLASH ADAPTER WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 EX3? SONY MSACEX1 MEMORY STICK(R) DUO EXPRESSCARD(TM) ADAPTER WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 EX3? SIGG 11/1 EXPRESS READER 11in1 Express Card Reader WILL NOT WORK WITH THE EX1 firmware 1.11 AFT EXPRESS READER does work in the EX1 with some SDHC memory other than the new Sandisk Extreme III 30MB/s.. The problem is, it has occasional memory errors PROExpress 7 in 1 reader w/ Panasonic 8GB SDHC, Media Error around:20 min (restored, clips were all fine) CFExpressPro+ PCIe ExpressCard to CompactFlash Memory Card Adapter 2.5Gbps TESTED WITH Sony 306x 46mb/s CF CARD , TRANSEND 32GB CF CARD X133, Scandisk 4GB EXTREME 4 UNKNOWN MEDIA WILL NOT WORK. Maplin SD Express reader does not work I Ordered two 32GB Ultra II Sandisk cards after testing I will put this data in an Excel Spread sheet format PDF

September 28th, 2008, 09:30 PM	#355
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Thanks Brian Let us know how the SanDisk 32GB Ultra II 15MB/s SDHC card works with the Kensington. If it can overcrank repeatably at 40FPS this will be great news. When will you receive the 32GB Ultra II SDHC cards?

September 28th, 2008, 10:33 PM	#356
Tim Lenz New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Appleton WI Posts: 21	As Brian indicates: Lexar 16Gb SSD Express Card This card is slower than the 8gb WORKS WITH EX1 firmware 1.11 AND EX3 SP MODE ONLY error message no lost of data If this works, why not use it instead of an adapter that does not allow the door to close? Does this allow the door to close? I would think it is a standard size and would.

September 28th, 2008, 10:43 PM	#357
Tim Lenz New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Appleton WI Posts: 21	Re-reading Brian's info, does the following mean the Lexar only works in SP mode with both the EX1 and EX3? Or does the SP limitation only apply to the EX3?

September 29th, 2008, 01:10 AM	#359
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	I have ordered the SanDisk 32GB Ultra II 15MB/s SDHC card and it's due out this week in the UK. (The website says last week September so I hope there's no delays) I have already got a Kensington so will post my results as soon as the Sandisk arrives.