SDHC substitute for SxS cards

Scott Hayes · September 18th, 2008, 03:31 AM

this is exciting!

Noah Kadner · September 18th, 2008, 04:32 AM

Very intriguing. Good for Sony they put nothing into SxS to prevent this sort of bargain hunter's hack from working. Or maybe they never expected anyone to try? :)

-Noah

Steven Thomas · September 18th, 2008, 06:22 AM

Thanks Keith...

It seems to work well. At least my first tests.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing about using the SxS for slo-mo when needed.

I'm now looking forward to the soon release of the new Extreme 32GB 30MB/s SDHC.

It will be less than $300

Steven Thomas · September 18th, 2008, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noah Kadner

Very intriguing. Good for Sony they put nothing into SxS to prevent this sort of bargain hunter's hack from working. Or maybe they never expected anyone to try? :)

-Noah

Noah...
It appears the maybe Sony's new PHU-60K drive may be the reason we are able to get this to work. In fact, right now, it appears this memory/SDGC card combo is working just like their drive (No S&Q mode ability)... Actually, maybe even better. Time will tell. I've read the PHU-60K thread where some are having errors.

Paul Newman · September 18th, 2008, 09:23 AM

Dear Mr Moreau,

May I be so bold? perhaps you could pop over to AFT in Fremont and explain the communication problems with their AFT reader and the EX1, I'm sure it would be in their interest to sort this glitch out, and get us all up and running, I've mailed them, but I'm kinda on the other side of the pond !!

Sorry to be so forward, but AFT are the only guys so far who make an adapter that fits
into the EX1 properly.

You can find their contact info on the web no problems.

Thanks

Paul Newman

Keith Moreau · September 18th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Hi Paul

You can call me Keith, when I get the AFT card I can try to start a dialog with them. Basically they would just need to get a Kensington, to compare behavior and circuitry. However, I'm not hopeful that any prompting will create an easy fix, as this things are mostly likely 'hardwired' to behave a certain way and it might not be easy to upgrade a unit to work better in something as specific as an EX1 when it works fine with other devices such as Macbook Pro or other Expresscard compatibile units.

In the meantime, have they responded to your emails?

Steven Thomas · September 18th, 2008, 02:00 PM

The odd thing is the AFT does work in the EX1 with some SDHC memory other than the new Sandisk Extreme III 30MB/s.. The problem is, it has occassional memory errors.

If it worked with the new Extreme III memory, it would be by far the best solution.

You're right, they would need to understand why the Kensington works with the new Extreme and not theirs.

Having said that, the AFT might work with the Extreme memory in a computer, but not the EX1... for some odd reason.

Keith Moreau · September 18th, 2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

The odd thing is the AFT does work in the EX1 with some SDHC memory other than the new Sandisk Extreme III 30MB/s.. The problem is, it has occassional memory errors.

If it worked with the new Extreme III memory, it would be by far the best solution.

You're right, they would need to understand why the Kensington works with the new Extreme and not theirs.

Having said that, the AFT might work with the Extreme memory in a computer, but not the EX1... for some odd reason.

Hi Steven, perhaps, since you seem to be the only one right now that has the AFT and the Extreme, you could test it on your Expresscard compatible computer (if you have one) and see if does work well. If it errors on the computer then that would give AFT something to go on and further incentive rather than trying to reverse-engineer to an EX1 specific problem for marginal rewards for AFT, like they will be selling like 10 AFT adapters for the few EX1/EX3 owners out there that might to use this solution?

Steven Thomas · September 18th, 2008, 02:22 PM

Thanks Keith.
I do not have a expresscard in my computer. Well, short of the SxS Sony reader.
I don't believe that combo would be the best to test.

Keith Moreau · September 18th, 2008, 02:47 PM

OK, when I get my AFT I'll test it in a couple Macbook Pros I have with the Expresscard slot and the Extreme III SDHC cards, I'll keep everybody posted.

Paul Campsall · September 18th, 2008, 03:22 PM

I have the Kensington adapter on order so can't do testing yet.
But I want to say thanks for all your testing and sharing info!

Steven Thomas · September 18th, 2008, 04:17 PM

Paul congrats on the Kensington.
Look into buying the SanDisk Extreme III 16GB 30MB/s SDHC memory.

So far so good...

Brian Rhodes · September 18th, 2008, 05:27 PM

Kensington 7 in 1 model k33407us. Transend 8gb SDHC model ts8gsdhc6. Tested with EX1 all modes SP and HQ 28min each mode no errors.

Alex Raskin · September 18th, 2008, 05:40 PM

Brian, is it possible to overcrank with your combo in S&Q mode?

John Peterson · September 18th, 2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Rhodes

Kensington 7 in 1 model k33407us. Transend 8gb SDHC model ts8gsdhc6. Tested with EX1 all modes SP and HQ 28min each mode no errors.

Brain,

Does it absolutely require firmware 1.11 or will it work with firmware 1.05?

John

September 18th, 2008, 09:23 AM	#140
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	Dear Mr Moreau, May I be so bold? perhaps you could pop over to AFT in Fremont and explain the communication problems with their AFT reader and the EX1, I'm sure it would be in their interest to sort this glitch out, and get us all up and running, I've mailed them, but I'm kinda on the other side of the pond !! Sorry to be so forward, but AFT are the only guys so far who make an adapter that fits into the EX1 properly. You can find their contact info on the web no problems. Thanks Paul Newman __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

September 18th, 2008, 03:31 AM	#136
Scott Hayes Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 692	this is exciting!

September 18th, 2008, 04:32 AM	#137
Noah Kadner Better than Halle Berry Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 435	Very intriguing. Good for Sony they put nothing into SxS to prevent this sort of bargain hunter's hack from working. Or maybe they never expected anyone to try? :) -Noah

September 18th, 2008, 06:22 AM	#138
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Thanks Keith... It seems to work well. At least my first tests. Yes, I was thinking the same thing about using the SxS for slo-mo when needed. I'm now looking forward to the soon release of the new Extreme 32GB 30MB/s SDHC. It will be less than $300

September 18th, 2008, 01:53 PM	#141
Keith Moreau Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane, California Posts: 530	Hi Paul You can call me Keith, when I get the AFT card I can try to start a dialog with them. Basically they would just need to get a Kensington, to compare behavior and circuitry. However, I'm not hopeful that any prompting will create an easy fix, as this things are mostly likely 'hardwired' to behave a certain way and it might not be easy to upgrade a unit to work better in something as specific as an EX1 when it works fine with other devices such as Macbook Pro or other Expresscard compatibile units. In the meantime, have they responded to your emails?

September 18th, 2008, 02:00 PM	#142
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	The odd thing is the AFT does work in the EX1 with some SDHC memory other than the new Sandisk Extreme III 30MB/s.. The problem is, it has occassional memory errors. If it worked with the new Extreme III memory, it would be by far the best solution. You're right, they would need to understand why the Kensington works with the new Extreme and not theirs. Having said that, the AFT might work with the Extreme memory in a computer, but not the EX1... for some odd reason.

September 18th, 2008, 02:22 PM	#144
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Thanks Keith. I do not have a expresscard in my computer. Well, short of the SxS Sony reader. I don't believe that combo would be the best to test.

September 18th, 2008, 02:47 PM	#145
Keith Moreau Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane, California Posts: 530	OK, when I get my AFT I'll test it in a couple Macbook Pros I have with the Expresscard slot and the Extreme III SDHC cards, I'll keep everybody posted.

September 18th, 2008, 03:22 PM	#146
Paul Campsall New Boot Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 7	I have the Kensington adapter on order so can't do testing yet. But I want to say thanks for all your testing and sharing info!

September 18th, 2008, 04:17 PM	#147
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Paul congrats on the Kensington. Look into buying the SanDisk Extreme III 16GB 30MB/s SDHC memory. So far so good...

September 18th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#148
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	Kensington 7 in 1 model k33407us. Transend 8gb SDHC model ts8gsdhc6. Tested with EX1 all modes SP and HQ 28min each mode no errors.

September 18th, 2008, 05:40 PM	#149
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Brian, is it possible to overcrank with your combo in S&Q mode?