Low Light Profile? at DVinfo.net

Rick Jones · August 6th, 2008, 01:43 PM

Anyone have a good PP for low light? I haven't had much time to work on one for indoor use and was hoping not to have to reinvent what someone may have already accomplished. If you've got one can you post the actual settings instead of a SUF? The EX3 doesn't seem to match up with SUF files from the EX1. Thanks!

Craig Terott · August 6th, 2008, 09:43 PM

I'm sure someone else on this board will have a more elaborate suggestion but ...have you tried a profile with gamma in STD4 setting? STD4 seems to stretch the blacks a bit.

Piotr Wozniacki · August 6th, 2008, 10:57 PM

I'm using either STD1 to crush, or STD4 to stretch the blacks - anything else at default (unless I'm doing portraits, where I would use the Skin Details settings). All this in combinations with the proper WB preset.

Whether I would compress or stretch blacks is usually an artistic decision, though with really dark scenes, compressing the darkest areas along with the inherent noise is just a necessity.

Using any Cine gamma renders the mids too dark.

Adam Reuter · August 7th, 2008, 01:40 AM

I've used basspig's with pretty good success. It is noisy as heck BUT if you've ever watched A&E's First 48 when then have night scenes it looks kind of like that at +18dB gain.

http://www.basspig.com/PMW-EX1_PP.htm

If there is a lamp on or something indoors I just use my go-to picture profile of Bill Ravens' True Color 3. +12dB of gain is usually more than enough for most indoor shots...sometimes I can get away with -3dB with bright enough areas (bright overhead flourescents). Tru Color 3 is available on the picture profiles recipe page here on DVInfo. It's not on Bill's post but if you follow the evolution of the profile you'll find a post with the updated settings.

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=110902&page=8 under Steven Thomas' post. Here's the recipe for easy reference:

Bill Ravens' True Color 3

Matrix ...............on
Select................hisat
Level..................0
Phase.................-5
R-G...................75
R-B...................0
G-R...................-18
G-B...................-32
B-R...................-27
B-G...................13

Gamma Level.............. 0
Gamma Select.............CINE1
Black..........................-12
Black Gamma..............0

Rick Jones · August 7th, 2008, 10:15 AM

Thanks for the help. I'll start testing tonight.

August 6th, 2008, 01:43 PM	#1
Rick Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 126	Low Light Profile? Anyone have a good PP for low light? I haven't had much time to work on one for indoor use and was hoping not to have to reinvent what someone may have already accomplished. If you've got one can you post the actual settings instead of a SUF? The EX3 doesn't seem to match up with SUF files from the EX1. Thanks!

August 6th, 2008, 10:57 PM	#3
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	I'm using either STD1 to crush, or STD4 to stretch the blacks - anything else at default (unless I'm doing portraits, where I would use the Skin Details settings). All this in combinations with the proper WB preset. Whether I would compress or stretch blacks is usually an artistic decision, though with really dark scenes, compressing the darkest areas along with the inherent noise is just a necessity. Using any Cine gamma renders the mids too dark. __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

August 6th, 2008, 09:43 PM	#2
Craig Terott Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 691	I'm sure someone else on this board will have a more elaborate suggestion but ...have you tried a profile with gamma in STD4 setting? STD4 seems to stretch the blacks a bit.

August 7th, 2008, 01:40 AM	#4
Adam Reuter Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 234	I've used basspig's with pretty good success. It is noisy as heck BUT if you've ever watched A&E's First 48 when then have night scenes it looks kind of like that at +18dB gain. http://www.basspig.com/PMW-EX1_PP.htm If there is a lamp on or something indoors I just use my go-to picture profile of Bill Ravens' True Color 3. +12dB of gain is usually more than enough for most indoor shots...sometimes I can get away with -3dB with bright enough areas (bright overhead flourescents). Tru Color 3 is available on the picture profiles recipe page here on DVInfo. It's not on Bill's post but if you follow the evolution of the profile you'll find a post with the updated settings. http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=110902&page=8 under Steven Thomas' post. Here's the recipe for easy reference: Bill Ravens' True Color 3 Matrix ...............on Select................hisat Level..................0 Phase.................-5 R-G...................75 R-B...................0 G-R...................-18 G-B...................-32 B-R...................-27 B-G...................13 Gamma Level.............. 0 Gamma Select.............CINE1 Black..........................-12 Black Gamma..............0

August 7th, 2008, 10:15 AM	#5
Rick Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 126	Thanks for the help. I'll start testing tonight.