playing back with the EX1 an exported file from FCP at DVinfo.net

Francois Dormoy · August 1st, 2008, 08:18 PM

I have made my first video construction from EX1 clips imported into Final Cut Pro 6 with music background. But, I do not have yet a Blue Ray burner to show the output on my HDTV. So I am looking for a provisional solution. I am thinking about re-exporting the result into a file that can be copied into the SxS card and played with the PMW-EX1 connected to the HDTV with the composite cable. Is that possible?
I exported the results using the menu Export>XDCAM and putting the file in a USB key. It created just one MXF file and nothing else. But I hesitate to copy that file into the SxS card because I need to know in advance if it will work without messing up the card.
Any sugestion will be welcomed.

Roger Dowling · August 1st, 2008, 08:25 PM

I ahve recorded from a straight timeline playback off FCP through a firewire cable into my EXI.
It works okay.

James Brill · August 1st, 2008, 09:58 PM

The problem is that it has to recreated the Long GOP structure of XDcam to go back to the cards. The same is for HDV tapes, I don't believe I have ever gotten it to work. Could you send the playback of the FCP timeline to your EX1 and loop through to your HDTV?

Paul Newman · August 2nd, 2008, 01:15 AM

I create a transport stream file in 1440x1080 25mb (HDV) and write this to the EX1 SxS card which creates a BPAV file structure. The camera must be set in SQ and Media, external input.

This does not work for 1920x1080 as it is not an "HDV" format.

Paul

Craig Seeman · August 2nd, 2008, 11:18 AM

From my MacPro's 2nd DVI out I got DVI to HDMI cable into my HDTV. You folks are really making this more difficult than it should be.

In fact this goes to my HDTV (50' cable no less) while I edit with FCP so client can watch full screen on my 46" 1080p set.

You can create an H264 MOV and hook up a MacMini DVI to HDMI and play the video out straight from Quicktime (or maybe event Front Row). You can do this from a Windows computer with Quicktime too if you don't want to buy a MacMini. It can also work from a good laptop (the same one you might be using on your shoots for the SxS card dumps).

Dave Morrison · August 2nd, 2008, 12:32 PM

That's pretty cool, Craig. I didn't realize that the second DVI port would output a 1080p signal simultaneously.....very cool. Guess I don't need that Matrox MXO or MXO2 that I was considering, right? Or am I missing something?

Craig Seeman · August 2nd, 2008, 02:13 PM

FCP 6 has a variety of output options. The 2nd DVI out will send the viewer or canvas out full screen. I can go through takes on canvas drop in shots and playback in viewer and the DVI out follows my toggle from canvas to viewer. It's full 1080p out (it's DVI so it's certainly outputting progressive).

FCP has both "Full" and "Raw" output. Raw won't upscale to fill the HDTV so you'll see things as they are. Output SD at Raw and you'll see how small it really looks on an HDTV.

When clients see the video on 46" at full 1080p they don't feel bad at all about spending my HD rate. In fact they sometimes feel reluctant about having to downconvert to SD (although they often have to).

MXO does have advantages though in that you can accurately color calibrate your HDTV to a much better extent.

http://www.matrox.com/video/en/produ...low/#calibrate

If you look at the 1080 vs 720 vs SD images those are the same relative sizes you'll see if you use Raw out of FCP and MacPro's 2nd DVI port. What MXO provides though is accurate monitor set up.

August 1st, 2008, 08:18 PM	#1
Francois Dormoy Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 81	playing back with the EX1 an exported file from FCP I have made my first video construction from EX1 clips imported into Final Cut Pro 6 with music background. But, I do not have yet a Blue Ray burner to show the output on my HDTV. So I am looking for a provisional solution. I am thinking about re-exporting the result into a file that can be copied into the SxS card and played with the PMW-EX1 connected to the HDTV with the composite cable. Is that possible? I exported the results using the menu Export>XDCAM and putting the file in a USB key. It created just one MXF file and nothing else. But I hesitate to copy that file into the SxS card because I need to know in advance if it will work without messing up the card. Any sugestion will be welcomed.

August 1st, 2008, 08:25 PM	#2
Roger Dowling New Boot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9	Timeline playback into EXI I ahve recorded from a straight timeline playback off FCP through a firewire cable into my EXI. It works okay.

August 2nd, 2008, 01:15 AM	#4
Paul Newman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Agua Blanca Ibiza Posts: 305	I create a transport stream file in 1440x1080 25mb (HDV) and write this to the EX1 SxS card which creates a BPAV file structure. The camera must be set in SQ and Media, external input. This does not work for 1920x1080 as it is not an "HDV" format. Paul __________________ Another Sunny Day in Ibiza

August 2nd, 2008, 12:32 PM	#6
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	That's pretty cool, Craig. I didn't realize that the second DVI port would output a 1080p signal simultaneously.....very cool. Guess I don't need that Matrox MXO or MXO2 that I was considering, right? Or am I missing something? __________________ EX1, Nikon D750 http://www.morrisonphotographics.com http://www.heritagefilm.com

August 1st, 2008, 09:58 PM	#3
James Brill Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 299	The problem is that it has to recreated the Long GOP structure of XDcam to go back to the cards. The same is for HDV tapes, I don't believe I have ever gotten it to work. Could you send the playback of the FCP timeline to your EX1 and loop through to your HDTV?

August 2nd, 2008, 11:18 AM	#5
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	From my MacPro's 2nd DVI out I got DVI to HDMI cable into my HDTV. You folks are really making this more difficult than it should be. In fact this goes to my HDTV (50' cable no less) while I edit with FCP so client can watch full screen on my 46" 1080p set. You can create an H264 MOV and hook up a MacMini DVI to HDMI and play the video out straight from Quicktime (or maybe event Front Row). You can do this from a Windows computer with Quicktime too if you don't want to buy a MacMini. It can also work from a good laptop (the same one you might be using on your shoots for the SxS card dumps).

August 2nd, 2008, 02:13 PM	#7
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	FCP 6 has a variety of output options. The 2nd DVI out will send the viewer or canvas out full screen. I can go through takes on canvas drop in shots and playback in viewer and the DVI out follows my toggle from canvas to viewer. It's full 1080p out (it's DVI so it's certainly outputting progressive). FCP has both "Full" and "Raw" output. Raw won't upscale to fill the HDTV so you'll see things as they are. Output SD at Raw and you'll see how small it really looks on an HDTV. When clients see the video on 46" at full 1080p they don't feel bad at all about spending my HD rate. In fact they sometimes feel reluctant about having to downconvert to SD (although they often have to). MXO does have advantages though in that you can accurately color calibrate your HDTV to a much better extent. http://www.matrox.com/video/en/produ...low/#calibrate If you look at the 1080 vs 720 vs SD images those are the same relative sizes you'll see if you use Raw out of FCP and MacPro's 2nd DVI port. What MXO provides though is accurate monitor set up.