Mic Suspension Mount - What Are You Using?

Jeff DeMaagd · September 7th, 2008, 01:34 PM

Hello, with help from Bob Grant, I've made a shoe mount adapter just for the EX1 based on his example.

DM-Accessories - EX1-FLAT - Shoe Mount for Sony EX1

Thank you!

Dave Morrison · September 7th, 2008, 02:03 PM

Nicely made piece, Jeff. Couple of questions for you:

1. is there any kind of mechanical stop inside the slot to keep your accessory from sliding all the way through the groove?
2. do you take PayPal?

dave

Ted OMalley · September 7th, 2008, 02:10 PM

Jeff,

Nice job - but you're exactly one week too late for me and my EX3! I would definitely have purchased yours. I had aluminum in stock, spent $15 for the shoe and shipping, and two hours cutting, grinding, and drilling!

One question - are there registry holes in the base for the nipples from the audio pod? I drilled additional holes for these as I did not want to damage the camera by cutting/breaking them off.

Jeff DeMaagd · September 7th, 2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Morrison

Nicely made piece, Jeff. Couple of questions for you:

1. is there any kind of mechanical stop inside the slot to keep your accessory from sliding all the way through the groove?
2. do you take PayPal?

Thanks!

1) Sorry, no mechanical stop, but I can consider adding it to this design if there's demand for it. That question really hasn't come up with my previous products.

2) yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted OMalley

Jeff,

Nice job - but you're exactly one week too late for me and my EX3! I would definitely have purchased yours. I had aluminum in stock, spent $15 for the shoe and shipping, and two hours cutting, grinding, and drilling!

Thanks, and sorry about that. I had the parts ready before, but no way to get photos sooner.

Quote:

One question - are there registry holes in the base for the nipples from the audio pod? I drilled additional holes for these as I did not want to damage the camera by cutting/breaking them off.

There will be, not on the first batch except maybe I would customize one by special request for someone that needs it ASAP. Bob pointed out the nubs to me last week when he had access to an EX3. That's why I said it wasn't EX3 compatible yet. I plan to make EX3 compatible mounts, it may be a few weeks.

Robert C. Fisher · September 7th, 2008, 03:04 PM

I just found this discussion and thought I would chime in. I made a mic mount for my DV-500 back in 2001 (I think, maybe it's been longer). I purchased a Light Wave Systems MiniMount Universal and made a detachable arm that fit the holes for their mic mount. The bracket is small, simple (although it did require a bit of work) and lightweight. I made and sold more then a few of these. At the time I had access to a machine shop so it was easy. I just got an EX1 so I will modify this mount to work on the Sony. The best thing is that it detaches with 1-2 turns of the screw, you don't have to tighten beyond finger tight, to put the camera in the case. I do like the simplicity of Bob Grant's bracket! I may fashion one like that for future cameras (EX1/3).

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher

Brian Rhodes · September 7th, 2008, 10:11 PM

I use the J-RODE

SEE ATTACHMENT
http://www.thej-rod.com/

Robert C. Fisher · September 8th, 2008, 12:32 AM

Brian the problem with any mount that uses the origional mic holder is that it has the same issues. The Sony mic mount is really flimsy. I used my EX1 for a few days before I sent it in for a backfocus issue and firmware update and this has to be the worst mic mount I have seen on a camera of this caliber. This is the reason most people replace it, as well as using a mount with more phsical isolation to reduce the handling noise.

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher

Dave Morrison · September 8th, 2008, 11:55 AM

Ordered mine last night, Jeff. Looking forward to using it. I'll see how well things stay in place without the mechanical stop.

Robert C. Fisher · September 17th, 2008, 12:17 AM

I am working on adapting my old mount to my EX1 and I haven't been able to measure the screws. Does anyone know what size and pitch the screws that hold the mic mount are?

I thought they were 4/48 but that's seems to be wrong.

Thanks
Robert C. Fisher

Jeff DeMaagd · September 17th, 2008, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Morrison

Ordered mine last night, Jeff. Looking forward to using it. I'll see how well things stay in place without the mechanical stop.

I do appreciate the orders that people made, thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert C. Fisher

I am working on adapting my old mount to my EX1 and I haven't been able to measure the screws. Does anyone know what size and pitch the screws that hold the mic mount are?

I thought they were 4/48 but that's seems to be wrong.

The screws are actually 2.5mm diameter. There's only one thread pitch that I've found, so any screw that size that you get should be the right thread pitch.

Robert C. Fisher · September 17th, 2008, 11:13 PM

Thanks Jeff I will begin my search for the elusive screws tommorrow.

Cheers
Robert C. Fisher

Gabriel Chiefetz · October 5th, 2008, 02:21 AM

It took me a while to dig up the part number for the EX-1 stock microphone holder, so I thought I would post it here in case anyone else needs it. The part number is:

X-2187-352-1

And you can order the part directly from Sony:

http://servicesplus.us.sony.biz/sony-parts.aspx

(My apologies in advance if I wasn't supposed to post this link, but I wasn't sure and thought it might be helpful.)

Arild Pedersen · October 5th, 2008, 05:37 AM

Comming from magnesium case camera like the Sony DXC-series, the EX3 made a lot of noise from handling the plastic case. Tried several solutions, but at the end made my own. A thin alu-tube with rubber bands from a bicycle tire(working best). Rubber bands to mont the mic, rubber in every joint, rubber covering the tube thar fits into EX3. Even works with a microphones like Audio Tech 835 st.

Justin Benn · October 5th, 2008, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arild Pedersen

Comming from magnesium case camera like the Sony DXC-series, the EX3 made a lot of noise from handling the plastic case. Tried several solutions, but at the end made my own. A thin alu-tube with rubber bands from a bicycle tire(working best). Rubber bands to mont the mic, rubber in every joint, rubber covering the tube thar fits into EX3. Even works with a microphones like Audio Tech 835 st.

I have a feeling that this will still suffer from the same strength issues due to the use of the supplied Sony mount. Let us know how you get on with it.

Jus.

Arild Pedersen · October 5th, 2008, 01:16 PM

No problems, so far. When using mics like the Sony ECM 678, which is quite heavy, a move the rig a bit backwards to balance it.
And, I always remove the rig in the bag.

September 7th, 2008, 02:03 PM	#62
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	Nicely made piece, Jeff. Couple of questions for you: 1. is there any kind of mechanical stop inside the slot to keep your accessory from sliding all the way through the groove? 2. do you take PayPal? dave __________________ EX1, Nikon D750 http://www.morrisonphotographics.com http://www.heritagefilm.com

September 7th, 2008, 02:10 PM	#63
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	Jeff, Nice job - but you're exactly one week too late for me and my EX3! I would definitely have purchased yours. I had aluminum in stock, spent $15 for the shoe and shipping, and two hours cutting, grinding, and drilling! One question - are there registry holes in the base for the nipples from the audio pod? I drilled additional holes for these as I did not want to damage the camera by cutting/breaking them off. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

September 7th, 2008, 03:04 PM	#65
Robert C. Fisher Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 55	I just found this discussion and thought I would chime in. I made a mic mount for my DV-500 back in 2001 (I think, maybe it's been longer). I purchased a Light Wave Systems MiniMount Universal and made a detachable arm that fit the holes for their mic mount. The bracket is small, simple (although it did require a bit of work) and lightweight. I made and sold more then a few of these. At the time I had access to a machine shop so it was easy. I just got an EX1 so I will modify this mount to work on the Sony. The best thing is that it detaches with 1-2 turns of the screw, you don't have to tighten beyond finger tight, to put the camera in the case. I do like the simplicity of Bob Grant's bracket! I may fashion one like that for future cameras (EX1/3). Cheers Robert C. Fisher Attached Thumbnails

September 7th, 2008, 10:11 PM	#66
Brian Rhodes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 753	I use the J-RODE SEE ATTACHMENT http://www.thej-rod.com/ Attached Thumbnails

September 8th, 2008, 11:55 AM	#68
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	Ordered mine last night, Jeff. Looking forward to using it. I'll see how well things stay in place without the mechanical stop. __________________ EX1, Nikon D750 http://www.morrisonphotographics.com http://www.heritagefilm.com

September 7th, 2008, 01:34 PM	#61
Jeff DeMaagd Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI, USA Posts: 202	Hello, with help from Bob Grant, I've made a shoe mount adapter just for the EX1 based on his example. DM-Accessories - EX1-FLAT - Shoe Mount for Sony EX1 Thank you!

September 8th, 2008, 12:32 AM	#67
Robert C. Fisher Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 55	Brian the problem with any mount that uses the origional mic holder is that it has the same issues. The Sony mic mount is really flimsy. I used my EX1 for a few days before I sent it in for a backfocus issue and firmware update and this has to be the worst mic mount I have seen on a camera of this caliber. This is the reason most people replace it, as well as using a mount with more phsical isolation to reduce the handling noise. Cheers Robert C. Fisher

September 17th, 2008, 12:17 AM	#69
Robert C. Fisher Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 55	I am working on adapting my old mount to my EX1 and I haven't been able to measure the screws. Does anyone know what size and pitch the screws that hold the mic mount are? I thought they were 4/48 but that's seems to be wrong. Thanks Robert C. Fisher

September 17th, 2008, 11:13 PM	#71
Robert C. Fisher Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 55	Thanks Jeff I will begin my search for the elusive screws tommorrow. Cheers Robert C. Fisher

October 5th, 2008, 02:21 AM	#72
Gabriel Chiefetz Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 73	Part number for EX-1 Microphone Holder It took me a while to dig up the part number for the EX-1 stock microphone holder, so I thought I would post it here in case anyone else needs it. The part number is: X-2187-352-1 And you can order the part directly from Sony: http://servicesplus.us.sony.biz/sony-parts.aspx (My apologies in advance if I wasn't supposed to post this link, but I wasn't sure and thought it might be helpful.)

October 5th, 2008, 05:37 AM	#73
Arild Pedersen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elverum Norway Posts: 62	My mic rig Comming from magnesium case camera like the Sony DXC-series, the EX3 made a lot of noise from handling the plastic case. Tried several solutions, but at the end made my own. A thin alu-tube with rubber bands from a bicycle tire(working best). Rubber bands to mont the mic, rubber in every joint, rubber covering the tube thar fits into EX3. Even works with a microphones like Audio Tech 835 st. Attached Thumbnails

October 5th, 2008, 01:16 PM	#75
Arild Pedersen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Elverum Norway Posts: 62	My rig No problems, so far. When using mics like the Sony ECM 678, which is quite heavy, a move the rig a bit backwards to balance it. And, I always remove the rig in the bag.