copying 16 gig cards to DVD at DVinfo.net

John Godwin · May 14th, 2008, 03:30 PM

I'd appreciate it if someone could explain how you use the clip browser to copy xdcam ex files from a 16gb card to multiple dual-layer DVDs. I've apparently missed something obvious.

Thanks in advance.

Craig Seeman · May 14th, 2008, 04:18 PM

In Clip Browser use the split function (icon with cd like disc pic) to split the card into 8GB. It'll create two 8GB folders. Unfortunately they may actually be up to 8GB. 8GB DL-DVD holds 7.95GB so the discs themselves are spanned when I burn them. UGH!

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=121428

Apparently Alistar and I are the only ones who've noticed this.

I guess "somebody" is not archiving 16GB cards to 8GB DL-DVD.

John Godwin · May 14th, 2008, 04:33 PM

Thanks for the reply. I just tried it and I see what you mean. I don't have Toast but I'm beginning to see that I'll need to get it.

I suppose you could split the card into 4gb folders and burn to standard dvds without spanning.

Craig Hollenback · May 14th, 2008, 05:46 PM

The 4 GB burns faster and are cheaper. I've tried the 8GB dual and have experienced the problems spoken about as well. Also, LaCie has a 500GB external drive that retails afor about $110. That works out cheaper than duals and is lots quicker.
Best, Craig

Mike Williams · May 14th, 2008, 07:17 PM

If on a Mac you can always create a burn folder and drag the clips into the burn folder to create the cheaper 4.7 gb DVD. It takes some time but if you keep well away from filling to 4.7 it works fine.

I just estimate how many burn folders I'll need, create them as Job1, Job2,etc. and drag the clips from the capture scratch folder right in.

Burn away.

John Godwin · May 14th, 2008, 08:05 PM

I've been copying the entire BPAV folder to various external hard drives, which I have a number of, but I'm looking for something hopefully less volatile, and more easily shipped or shared. That's why the DVDs are an interesting alternative.

Craig Seeman · May 14th, 2008, 08:50 PM

Never drag MP4 clips. That's a recipe for DISASTER. Use Clip Browser to split.

Drag clips and you end up with orphaned MP4 files that won't import into Final Cut Pro.

Just as DL-DVD 8.5GB actually hold 7.95GB, DVD 4.7GB actually hold about 4.3GB. Fortunately Clip Browser makes 4GB BPAV folders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Williams

If on a Mac you can always create a burn folder and drag the clips into the burn folder to create the cheaper 4.7 gb DVD. It takes some time but if you keep well away from filling to 4.7 it works fine.

I just estimate how many burn folders I'll need, create them as Job1, Job2,etc. and drag the clips from the capture scratch folder right in.

Burn away.

Craig Seeman · May 14th, 2008, 09:20 PM

Manually set split at 7.9GB in Clip Browser.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....43&postcount=3

John Godwin · May 15th, 2008, 07:04 AM

Well, that was simply brilliant, or simple AND brilliant. Thanks.

Craig Seeman · May 15th, 2008, 08:18 AM

It would have been easier if the manual was properly written.

First you must find the manual called 3280782111.pdf (at least on my system it is). Of course that name makes it clear what this document is!

Then if you go to Page 44 (for Mac or Page 22 Windows) under Splitting Folders

- 3 Select the size of the split folders from the drop-list

That's it. NO INDICATION at all that you can type in this field manually. I thought it was important to explain why this simple feature was so hard to discover.

So just a reminder for this issue. Change the 8GB to 7.9GB manually and it'll split it so you can fit on DL DVD.

John Godwin · May 16th, 2008, 10:21 AM

I tried and made a copy of about 45 minutes worth of card video - I didn't noticed the exact number of gigs, but a good bit over 8. The dual-layer dvds worked fine, but it did take quite a while, between burning and verifying. It's good to have this as an option.

May 14th, 2008, 03:30 PM	#1
John Godwin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 190	copying 16 gig cards to DVD I'd appreciate it if someone could explain how you use the clip browser to copy xdcam ex files from a 16gb card to multiple dual-layer DVDs. I've apparently missed something obvious. Thanks in advance.

May 14th, 2008, 04:33 PM	#3
John Godwin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 190	Thanks for the reply. I just tried it and I see what you mean. I don't have Toast but I'm beginning to see that I'll need to get it. I suppose you could split the card into 4gb folders and burn to standard dvds without spanning. Last edited by John Godwin; May 14th, 2008 at 04:33 PM. Reason: baaaad spelling

May 14th, 2008, 05:46 PM	#4
Craig Hollenback Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Key West Posts: 247	I'm going to try the 4GB route myself The 4 GB burns faster and are cheaper. I've tried the 8GB dual and have experienced the problems spoken about as well. Also, LaCie has a 500GB external drive that retails afor about $110. That works out cheaper than duals and is lots quicker. Best, Craig

May 14th, 2008, 07:17 PM	#5
Mike Williams Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USVI Posts: 232	Non DL DVD If on a Mac you can always create a burn folder and drag the clips into the burn folder to create the cheaper 4.7 gb DVD. It takes some time but if you keep well away from filling to 4.7 it works fine. I just estimate how many burn folders I'll need, create them as Job1, Job2,etc. and drag the clips from the capture scratch folder right in. Burn away.

May 14th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#2
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	In Clip Browser use the split function (icon with cd like disc pic) to split the card into 8GB. It'll create two 8GB folders. Unfortunately they may actually be up to 8GB. 8GB DL-DVD holds 7.95GB so the discs themselves are spanned when I burn them. UGH! http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=121428 Apparently Alistar and I are the only ones who've noticed this. I guess "somebody" is not archiving 16GB cards to 8GB DL-DVD.

May 14th, 2008, 08:05 PM	#6
John Godwin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 190	I've been copying the entire BPAV folder to various external hard drives, which I have a number of, but I'm looking for something hopefully less volatile, and more easily shipped or shared. That's why the DVDs are an interesting alternative.

May 14th, 2008, 09:20 PM	#8
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Manually set split at 7.9GB in Clip Browser. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....43&postcount=3

May 15th, 2008, 07:04 AM	#9
John Godwin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 190	Well, that was simply brilliant, or simple AND brilliant. Thanks.

May 15th, 2008, 08:18 AM	#10
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	It would have been easier if the manual was properly written. First you must find the manual called 3280782111.pdf (at least on my system it is). Of course that name makes it clear what this document is! Then if you go to Page 44 (for Mac or Page 22 Windows) under Splitting Folders - 3 Select the size of the split folders from the drop-list That's it. NO INDICATION at all that you can type in this field manually. I thought it was important to explain why this simple feature was so hard to discover. So just a reminder for this issue. Change the 8GB to 7.9GB manually and it'll split it so you can fit on DL DVD.

May 16th, 2008, 10:21 AM	#11
John Godwin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 190	I tried and made a copy of about 45 minutes worth of card video - I didn't noticed the exact number of gigs, but a good bit over 8. The dual-layer dvds worked fine, but it did take quite a while, between burning and verifying. It's good to have this as an option.