Can I expect the EX1 mic mount to break? at DVinfo.net

Jonathan Bland · April 30th, 2008, 01:28 AM

Can I expect the EX1 mic mount to break and if so... What is the fix?

I'm about to pick up the Sennheiser 416 with a Rycote Softie.

Gints Klimanis · April 30th, 2008, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Bland

Can I expect the EX1 mic mount to break and if so... What is the fix?
I'm about to pick up the Sennheiser 416 with a Rycote Softie.

Here's a solid solution for the Z1/FX1. I don't know if it will fit the EX1 handle.

Delvcam DELV1081 Handle Bracket
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...acket_for.html

Peter Wright · April 30th, 2008, 03:09 AM

It should only break if it's knocked hard or dropped - I don't expect this to happen, and nor should you, unless you tend to operate in violent environments!

Benjamin Eckstein · April 30th, 2008, 05:46 AM

Mine broke, but yes, in a stupid, violent environment. I "fixed" it with glue and zip ties and that has worked fine. Sony charges 80 bucks for a replacement, so I will probably do some type of suspension mount.

Bob Grant · April 30th, 2008, 07:45 AM

The mic holders on the Z1 break, regularly. Haven't had an EX1 one actually break yet but just looking at the design there's very little plastic where the screws fasten the holder to the audio pod. We've made our own from a Rode suspension mount. This solves several problems. It gets the mic up a little higher so no fouling of matte boxes or bits of fur getting into the shot, it provides better isolation from any camera noise and the mount will not break.

There's a photo of my design here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....80&postcount=6
feel free to copy it, if you need any further info on how to make one PM me.

One of the main causes of failure of our Z1 mic holders has been the use of those devices from Rode and others that use a tube held into the existing mic clamp. They are simply too heavy for the plastic clamp and over time the clamp fractures.

Gints Klimanis · April 30th, 2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin Eckstein

Mine broke, but yes, in a stupid, violent environment. I "fixed" it with glue and zip ties and that has worked fine. Sony charges 80 bucks for a replacement, so I will probably do some type of suspension mount.

I use a Sennheiser shockmount in the shoe mount. The Sony plastic mount doesn't seem like it offers much in the way of shock absorption. I'm surprised anyone uses it.

Dan Gunn · April 30th, 2008, 11:32 AM

I need one of you creative types to chew on this. I now have a Zylight Z90 to mount onto my EX-1. The light weights a pound and is cold shoe mounted. Not good....I do not trust Sony's shoe with a $900.00 light. Also my new mic rides in a shockmount and the shockmount is set up for the coldshoe. So now, I need two shoes. I am looking at the Delvcam DELVG10801 Handle Bracket but I do not like to risk $100.00 on an experiment.

Ideas?

Ian Smith · April 30th, 2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Wright

It should only break if it's knocked hard or dropped - I don't expect this to happen, and nor should you, unless you tend to operate in violent environments!

Mine broke, seemingly just because of the bag rubbing against it.

Sony had zero interest whatsoever in helping me get it fixed. Ended up with a bit of a bodge job using a spare Z1 holder (which is sturdier and some flex built-in) but it's a bodge because the screw mounts on the Z1 holder are a tiny fraction wider apart.

Couldn't believe how thin and flimsy the (hidden) plastic mounting plate is when it snapped off.

Bob Grant · April 30th, 2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Gunn

I need one of you creative types to chew on this. I now have a Zylight Z90 to mount onto my EX-1. The light weights a pound and is cold shoe mounted. Not good....I do not trust Sony's shoe with a $900.00 light. Also my new mic rides in a shockmount and the shockmount is set up for the coldshoe. So now, I need two shoes. I am looking at the Delvcam DELVG10801 Handle Bracket but I do not like to risk $100.00 on an experiment.

Ideas?

That's the pain with the EX1, general shortage of way to mount anything on it. We've kitted out two of ours with the full Zacuto gear so now we've got plenty of ways to mount our Zylights, mics, wireless receivers and brick batteries. All that beautiful aluminium cost 30% of the price of the camera though.

For a simple handle mounting point add on this one:
http://www.vfgadgets.com/HDVbracket.htm
is a little cheaper and lower profile than the one you're looking at. Given how it mounts to the handle I'd be pretty confident it'd fit and hang on tightly.

Dan Gunn · May 1st, 2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Grant

That's the pain with the EX1, general shortage of way to mount anything on it. We've kitted out two of ours with the full Zacuto gear so now we've got plenty of ways to mount our Zylights, mics, wireless receivers and brick batteries. All that beautiful aluminium cost 30% of the price of the camera though.

For a simple handle mounting point add on this one:
http://www.vfgadgets.com/HDVbracket.htm
is a little cheaper and lower profile than the one you're looking at. Given how it mounts to the handle I'd be pretty confident it'd fit and hang on tightly.

Hey Bob,

I'll put you on my Christmas card list if you post some picks of your set up.

JoJo

Bob Grant · May 2nd, 2008, 02:28 AM

Hi Dan,
at the moment we've just got exactly what you'll see on the Zacuto website. More than happy to post some pics but all our EX1s are rented out for the next couple of days.
Thing too is this Zacuto stuff is like a big boys Mechano set. Expect to end up buying more bits than you might need immediately. Don't dispair though, you might need them when the EX5 comes out. We'll also be using our Zacuto gear with other cameras in other configurations so having extra parts to mount things is a good move for us.

Dan Gunn · May 2nd, 2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Grant

Hi Dan,
at the moment we've just got exactly what you'll see on the Zacuto website. More than happy to post some pics but all our EX1s are rented out for the next couple of days.
Thing too is this Zacuto stuff is like a big boys Mechano set. Expect to end up buying more bits than you might need immediately. Don't dispair though, you might need them when the EX5 comes out. We'll also be using our Zacuto gear with other cameras in other configurations so having extra parts to mount things is a good move for us.

re. EX-5......bite your tongue

April 30th, 2008, 01:28 AM	#1
Jonathan Bland Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Way Far Away Posts: 230	Can I expect the EX1 mic mount to break? Can I expect the EX1 mic mount to break and if so... What is the fix? I'm about to pick up the Sennheiser 416 with a Rycote Softie.

April 30th, 2008, 03:09 AM	#3
Peter Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 193	It should only break if it's knocked hard or dropped - I don't expect this to happen, and nor should you, unless you tend to operate in violent environments!

April 30th, 2008, 05:46 AM	#4
Benjamin Eckstein Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 380 Images: 1	Mine broke, but yes, in a stupid, violent environment. I "fixed" it with glue and zip ties and that has worked fine. Sony charges 80 bucks for a replacement, so I will probably do some type of suspension mount.

April 30th, 2008, 07:45 AM	#5
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	The mic holders on the Z1 break, regularly. Haven't had an EX1 one actually break yet but just looking at the design there's very little plastic where the screws fasten the holder to the audio pod. We've made our own from a Rode suspension mount. This solves several problems. It gets the mic up a little higher so no fouling of matte boxes or bits of fur getting into the shot, it provides better isolation from any camera noise and the mount will not break. There's a photo of my design here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....80&postcount=6 feel free to copy it, if you need any further info on how to make one PM me. One of the main causes of failure of our Z1 mic holders has been the use of those devices from Rode and others that use a tube held into the existing mic clamp. They are simply too heavy for the plastic clamp and over time the clamp fractures.

April 30th, 2008, 11:32 AM	#7
Dan Gunn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 272	I need one of you creative types to chew on this. I now have a Zylight Z90 to mount onto my EX-1. The light weights a pound and is cold shoe mounted. Not good....I do not trust Sony's shoe with a $900.00 light. Also my new mic rides in a shockmount and the shockmount is set up for the coldshoe. So now, I need two shoes. I am looking at the Delvcam DELVG10801 Handle Bracket but I do not like to risk $100.00 on an experiment. Ideas?

May 2nd, 2008, 02:28 AM	#11
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	Hi Dan, at the moment we've just got exactly what you'll see on the Zacuto website. More than happy to post some pics but all our EX1s are rented out for the next couple of days. Thing too is this Zacuto stuff is like a big boys Mechano set. Expect to end up buying more bits than you might need immediately. Don't dispair though, you might need them when the EX5 comes out. We'll also be using our Zacuto gear with other cameras in other configurations so having extra parts to mount things is a good move for us.