More EX1 issues...boooo...

Steve Connor · March 24th, 2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Patch

Great scene. I get the same lines with mine too. Mine does it in 60i

Looks perfect on mine too - certainly a problem with your playback there Greg!

Chris Aaron · March 24th, 2008, 10:14 PM

well that clip settles it...I think the shutter speed is correct on it, it just looks unnatural which is the same it looks on mine...it definitely doesn't look like film...it goes from being too sharp to too blurry...and I think the panasonic handles motion blur more photo-realistically...but if noone else notices then I'll learn to love my camera. Actually I already love it. I've just been a little pissy lately cause I had to send it back for a manufacturing defect. I think one reason the panasonic looks better at motion blurring is because panasonic's image isn't as sharp.

Steven Thomas · March 24th, 2008, 10:23 PM

I would not trust anything for motion viewed on a LOT of computer displays, including my own. LOL

My final format which is either Blu-ray or DVD, motion looks great. It certainly does not look any different than my other 24P footage I've been editing over the years.

If anything, it look more film like, probably due to holding up well for color grading and low video noise.

Chris Aaron · March 24th, 2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

I would not trust anything for motion viewed on a LOT of computer displays, including my own. LOL

My final format which is either Blu-ray or DVD, motion looks great. It certainly does not look any different than my other 24P footage I've been editing over the years.

If anything, it look more film like, probably due to holding up well for color grading and low video noise.

I hope...I admit I have yet to see any footage on DVD (and don't have a blu-ray)...but I did pull out some old films on 16mm and compared the motion blur on my monitor...DVD's of 16mm film on my monitor look spot on...footage from the freakin dvx look good too...but with my EX1 footage the motion blur is becoming an eye sore and I can't pay attention to stuff...cause the whole time I'm thinking "god damn" this blurry and choppy...but I will burn a DVD tomrow and hopefully it will prove I have developed a huge psychological urge to dis sony for having inconvenienced me (cause I had to return the camera and pay half of shipping - and $86 isn't chicken feed)...

:D

Eric Pascarelli · March 24th, 2008, 11:06 PM

Chris - make sure you have the shutter on and set to 1/48 (or 180°) if you want to duplicate the film (and HVX) look.

Unlike the HVX, "shutter off" on the EX1 means 1/24 shutter. "Shutter on" goes to whatever you set it to. And 1/48 is the standard shutter for film at 24fps.

The EX1 is shipped from Sony with the shutter switched off.

Chris Aaron · March 24th, 2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Pascarelli

Chris - make sure you have the shutter on and set to 1/48 (or 180°) if you want to duplicate the film (and HVX) look.

Unlike the HVX, "shutter off" on the EX1 means 1/24 shutter. "Shutter on" goes to whatever you set it to. And 1/48 is the standard shutter for film at 24fps.

The EX1 is shipped from Sony with the shutter switched off.

HAHH! I can't tell if your trying to give me helpful advice or if you're mocking me...I am aware of the shutter switch...thanks Eric...

:D

Chris Hurd · March 25th, 2008, 12:08 AM

He's trying to help you. We don't mock anyone around here.

When in doubt, always assume that the best intentions were in play.

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March 24th, 2008, 10:14 PM	#17
Chris Aaron New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 14	well that clip settles it...I think the shutter speed is correct on it, it just looks unnatural which is the same it looks on mine...it definitely doesn't look like film...it goes from being too sharp to too blurry...and I think the panasonic handles motion blur more photo-realistically...but if noone else notices then I'll learn to love my camera. Actually I already love it. I've just been a little pissy lately cause I had to send it back for a manufacturing defect. I think one reason the panasonic looks better at motion blurring is because panasonic's image isn't as sharp.

March 24th, 2008, 10:23 PM	#18
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	I would not trust anything for motion viewed on a LOT of computer displays, including my own. LOL My final format which is either Blu-ray or DVD, motion looks great. It certainly does not look any different than my other 24P footage I've been editing over the years. If anything, it look more film like, probably due to holding up well for color grading and low video noise.

March 24th, 2008, 11:06 PM	#20
Eric Pascarelli Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 498	Chris - make sure you have the shutter on and set to 1/48 (or 180°) if you want to duplicate the film (and HVX) look. Unlike the HVX, "shutter off" on the EX1 means 1/24 shutter. "Shutter on" goes to whatever you set it to. And 1/48 is the standard shutter for film at 24fps. The EX1 is shipped from Sony with the shutter switched off.