EX1 & final cut

Jerry Mennenga · March 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM

I recently installed the drivers for xdcam transfer, clip browser and the sxs drivers. I currently do not have the fcp 6, but plan to get it. I installed the transfer 1.01, not the current 2.5.1 (since it opens on import in fcp), so I could at least check out the clips in QT on my laptop. When I put the card into the express slot, it appears on the desktop, then I open xdcam transfer, and it finds the card, but then no media shows up in the clip browser. But, I can play those clips and hear the audio in the xdcam clip browser program and with a VLC player. So what is it that I am not doing correctly for the same media not to show up in xdcam transfer. I have downloaded the sxs driver twice, trashing and re-installing, as well as with the xdcam transfer, using the early version, 1.0.1 or whatever came prior to 2.5.1. thanks for your help...

jerry

Craig Seeman · March 5th, 2008, 05:50 PM

Jerry, I think you have your utilities confused.

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...ownloads.shtml

Card Driver is 1.0
Clip Browser is 1.1
Transfer Tool is 2.5.1

Transfer tool needs the EX codec installed with FCP 6.0.2.
Clip Browser probably can work without out it. I can't tell for sure since FCP 6.0.2 is installed on every system I use.

VLC can play the MP4 files directly.

Jerry Mennenga · March 6th, 2008, 04:40 PM

Craig, I guess what I am confused about, is that the first xdcam transfer software that was out, allowed one to rewrap the clip files into qt without FCP being open. When I downloaded that first version, and inserted the sxs card, xdcam transfer recognized the card, but I only got a grey screen showing where a clip image should be showing. I know there is media on these clips because it plays through the xe1 browser clip software and the VLC player. I have fcp6 ordered and on the way, but was hoping to do some experimenting with camera settings and with the xdcam transfer I could actually look at the clips and see what looks good.
Any ideas why the clip's image doesn't come up, but only a grey space looks like off-line media? thanks...

jerry

Jerry Mennenga · March 6th, 2008, 04:45 PM

Craig, I should have mentioned, I am operating 10.4.11, and when the grey area appears where a clip image should be, the import button is not "live" so I can not import the clips, thereby rewrapping them. If you use the transfer, one shouldn't have to have fcp open to use it, correct? You can rewrap the clips into a qt format before launching fcp? So I am just trying to get the xdcam transfer working....

jerry
sioux city, iowa

Craig Seeman · March 6th, 2008, 05:20 PM

The Transfer Software won't show video without the EX codec which is in FCP 6.0.2. It can be used on the desktop without opening FCP.

There's a pref setting so it won't try to open FCP. It says: Open imported files with (choices on my system: Final Cut Pro, Finder, QuickTime Player). Probably best for you to set it to Finder.

There's a pref setting that I allows it to work without the codec.
It says: Import clips with no installed codec. If the appropriate codecs are not installed you will still be able to import but not view or edit the imported movies on this computer.

I believe the software can rewrap to MOV even without FCP 6.0.2 but you won't be able to see the video.

I think the Clip Browser allows you to see the clips without FCP but it only moves the files, not rewrap. The Clip Browser works on Intel Macs but not at all on PPC Macs. On Windows it can rewrap to MXF.

I have FCP on both my PPC and Intel systems so I can't confirm what happens when FCP 6.0.2 is not installed unfortunately.

Jerry Mennenga · March 6th, 2008, 09:56 PM

Craig, Thank you. That was the missing piece of the puzzle I was trying to figure out. Not being the sharpest pixel in the pack when it comes to software related stuff, I was trying to figure out how a codec in fcp could allow another software, xdcam transfer, to work if it wasn't open. thanks again, so now I will be patient until fcp6 arrives...

jerry
sioux city, iowa

Chris Aaron · March 11th, 2008, 06:10 PM

Please tell me EX transfer 2.5 works with PPC macs...

Please...any of you who have PPC macs and FCP 6 and a XDCAM EX...please tell me I don't have to go out and get and intel mac...

The EX codec isn't showing up in FCP...does anyone know where I can get it?

:(

Craig Seeman · March 11th, 2008, 06:48 PM

XDCAM Transfer 2.5.1 works just fine on my PPC G5 Dual 2.3GHz Mac. You MUST have FCP 6.0.2 (6 or 6.0.1 do NOT have the EX codec). I've already mentioned it several times in the thread

FCP 6.0.2 NOT FCP 6 or 6.0.1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Aaron

Please tell me EX transfer 2.5 works with PPC macs...

Please...any of you who have PPC macs and FCP 6 and a XDCAM EX...please tell me I don't have to go out and get and intel mac...

The EX codec isn't showing up in FCP...does anyone know where I can get it?

:(

Chris Aaron · March 12th, 2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

XDCAM Transfer 2.5.1 works just fine on my PPC G5 Dual 2.3GHz Mac. You MUST have FCP 6.0.2 (6 or 6.0.1 do NOT have the EX codec). I've already mentioned it several times in the thread

FCP 6.0.2 NOT FCP 6 or 6.0.1

Yayyy! I got it working...thanks to you Craig:) I thought since the clip browser worked for only intel based macs that transfer 2.5 was the same...Here's to not not having to buy a new computer when I don't have the money...Hip hip hooray!

:D

Alain Chaix · March 13th, 2008, 04:10 AM

Hello,
i'm planing to buy a EX1 soon and i'm wondering if it's possible to edit easily with a powermac G5 2*2,5 (4 Go RAM).
No money to buy the EX1 and a Macpro in the same time.
Thanks

Craig Seeman · March 13th, 2008, 06:15 AM

See above. Yes G5 will work fine.

Paul Kellett · March 18th, 2008, 09:18 AM

Hi guys,i have a quick question.
I might have the opportunity of working with another cam operator,who edits with FCP 5,will FCP 5 work with EX1 MXF files ?
I'm a pc user,not mac,so i'm not sure what issue of FCP is the latest,is it 6 ?
If FCP 5 will work,will he need the transfer software aswell ?

Thanks,Paul.

Eric Pascarelli · March 18th, 2008, 09:26 AM

For The EX1, FCP works with QuickTimes using the XDCAM codec.

Only the latest version of FCP will work this way - version 6.02.

Transfer software is required, yes.

Regarding MXF files, I don't know if FCP will work with them, nor how to go about converting the EX1 files to MXF on a Mac.

March 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM	#31
Jerry Mennenga Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux City, Iowa Posts: 98	xdcam transfer, macbookpro (intel) I recently installed the drivers for xdcam transfer, clip browser and the sxs drivers. I currently do not have the fcp 6, but plan to get it. I installed the transfer 1.01, not the current 2.5.1 (since it opens on import in fcp), so I could at least check out the clips in QT on my laptop. When I put the card into the express slot, it appears on the desktop, then I open xdcam transfer, and it finds the card, but then no media shows up in the clip browser. But, I can play those clips and hear the audio in the xdcam clip browser program and with a VLC player. So what is it that I am not doing correctly for the same media not to show up in xdcam transfer. I have downloaded the sxs driver twice, trashing and re-installing, as well as with the xdcam transfer, using the early version, 1.0.1 or whatever came prior to 2.5.1. thanks for your help... jerry

March 6th, 2008, 04:40 PM	#33
Jerry Mennenga Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux City, Iowa Posts: 98	xdcam transfer and macbookpro Craig, I guess what I am confused about, is that the first xdcam transfer software that was out, allowed one to rewrap the clip files into qt without FCP being open. When I downloaded that first version, and inserted the sxs card, xdcam transfer recognized the card, but I only got a grey screen showing where a clip image should be showing. I know there is media on these clips because it plays through the xe1 browser clip software and the VLC player. I have fcp6 ordered and on the way, but was hoping to do some experimenting with camera settings and with the xdcam transfer I could actually look at the clips and see what looks good. Any ideas why the clip's image doesn't come up, but only a grey space looks like off-line media? thanks... jerry

March 6th, 2008, 04:45 PM	#34
Jerry Mennenga Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux City, Iowa Posts: 98	xdcam transfer and macbookpro Craig, I should have mentioned, I am operating 10.4.11, and when the grey area appears where a clip image should be, the import button is not "live" so I can not import the clips, thereby rewrapping them. If you use the transfer, one shouldn't have to have fcp open to use it, correct? You can rewrap the clips into a qt format before launching fcp? So I am just trying to get the xdcam transfer working.... jerry sioux city, iowa

March 6th, 2008, 09:56 PM	#36
Jerry Mennenga Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux City, Iowa Posts: 98	xex1 and final cut pro Craig, Thank you. That was the missing piece of the puzzle I was trying to figure out. Not being the sharpest pixel in the pack when it comes to software related stuff, I was trying to figure out how a codec in fcp could allow another software, xdcam transfer, to work if it wasn't open. thanks again, so now I will be patient until fcp6 arrives... jerry sioux city, iowa

March 18th, 2008, 09:18 AM	#42
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	Hi guys,i have a quick question. I might have the opportunity of working with another cam operator,who edits with FCP 5,will FCP 5 work with EX1 MXF files ? I'm a pc user,not mac,so i'm not sure what issue of FCP is the latest,is it 6 ? If FCP 5 will work,will he need the transfer software aswell ? Thanks,Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

March 5th, 2008, 05:50 PM	#32
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Jerry, I think you have your utilities confused. http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...ownloads.shtml Card Driver is 1.0 Clip Browser is 1.1 Transfer Tool is 2.5.1 Transfer tool needs the EX codec installed with FCP 6.0.2. Clip Browser probably can work without out it. I can't tell for sure since FCP 6.0.2 is installed on every system I use. VLC can play the MP4 files directly.

March 6th, 2008, 05:20 PM	#35
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	The Transfer Software won't show video without the EX codec which is in FCP 6.0.2. It can be used on the desktop without opening FCP. There's a pref setting so it won't try to open FCP. It says: Open imported files with (choices on my system: Final Cut Pro, Finder, QuickTime Player). Probably best for you to set it to Finder. There's a pref setting that I allows it to work without the codec. It says: Import clips with no installed codec. If the appropriate codecs are not installed you will still be able to import but not view or edit the imported movies on this computer. I believe the software can rewrap to MOV even without FCP 6.0.2 but you won't be able to see the video. I think the Clip Browser allows you to see the clips without FCP but it only moves the files, not rewrap. The Clip Browser works on Intel Macs but not at all on PPC Macs. On Windows it can rewrap to MXF. I have FCP on both my PPC and Intel systems so I can't confirm what happens when FCP 6.0.2 is not installed unfortunately.

March 11th, 2008, 06:10 PM	#37
Chris Aaron New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 14	Please tell me EX transfer 2.5 works with PPC macs... Please...any of you who have PPC macs and FCP 6 and a XDCAM EX...please tell me I don't have to go out and get and intel mac... The EX codec isn't showing up in FCP...does anyone know where I can get it? :(

March 13th, 2008, 04:10 AM	#40
Alain Chaix New Boot Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: France Posts: 10	Hello, i'm planing to buy a EX1 soon and i'm wondering if it's possible to edit easily with a powermac G5 2*2,5 (4 Go RAM). No money to buy the EX1 and a Macpro in the same time. Thanks

March 13th, 2008, 06:15 AM	#41
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	See above. Yes G5 will work fine.

March 18th, 2008, 09:26 AM	#43
Eric Pascarelli Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 498	For The EX1, FCP works with QuickTimes using the XDCAM codec. Only the latest version of FCP will work this way - version 6.02. Transfer software is required, yes. Regarding MXF files, I don't know if FCP will work with them, nor how to go about converting the EX1 files to MXF on a Mac.