Intensity Pro Card at DVinfo.net

Andrew Wilson · January 26th, 2008, 11:26 AM

I see from BlackMagic's website that the intensity pro card supports HD resolutions of 1080i50, 1080i59.94, 720p50 and 720p59.94.

Does this mean that the Intensity Pro doesn't support footage shot with an EX1 at 1080 30p?

I would mainly by getting the card to monitor to a flatscreen via HDMI and also monitor to a NTSC CRT in SD.

Benjamin Eckstein · January 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM

I am very curious too, as I am putting together a new Mac and want a card for monitoring HD signals (even if on a SD CRT).

Steven Thomas · January 26th, 2008, 12:51 PM

No problem, the EX1 SDI is 1080i 59.94 with the progressive embedded with a 3:2 pulldown (24P). Sorry I just read your message again, I see you wrote 30P.
I imagine there would be no issue with this too, although I have not tried 30P.

Benjamin Eckstein · January 26th, 2008, 01:15 PM

Steven, do you actually have the Intensity Pro card? I figured it'd work in that way and since its so cheap compared with a Kona card and I really am just looking for component or HDMI monitoring, this could be the ticket.

Michael H. Stevens · January 26th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

No problem, the EX1 SDI is 1080i 59.94 with the progressive embedded with a 3:2 pulldown (24P). Sorry I just read your message again, I see you wrote 30P.
I imagine there would be no issue with this too, although I have not tried 30P.

Are you sure? I thought the HD_SDI was SMPTE standard as shot. IE 1080x30p full 10 bit 4:2:2. Are you saying it isn't?

Steven Thomas · January 26th, 2008, 01:39 PM

Actually yes, you are correct, but... since the Intensity Pro card has HDMI inputs, I guess I was assuming you might be using a converter box such as the BM HDLINK. I don't have the Intensity Pro "yet", but in this case pulldown would be used over the 1080i 59.94. I own the BM HDLINK.

Louis Nel · January 26th, 2008, 03:22 PM

Hi Andrew,

I too have just switched from HDV to XDCAM EX. I used the blackmagic intensity card to do timeline monitoring when editing 1080i HDV. But now I want to work, and edit, in 1080p, especially 24p and 30p. The blackmagic card will only let you monitor 1080i or 720p. It would not be so bad if it was only a monitoring restriction, but it forces your project be edited in one of their more restrictive codec presets as well.

Does anyone know if the SDI Decklink would have 1080p edit and monitoring?

Does anyone have experience with the Aja Kona cards in this regard -do you get 1080p and good editing codecs to choose from with their LHe card?

I've almost completed building my edit system (8-core mac with final cut pro) but I have not yet figured out how to do timeline monitoring to my HDTV system. My preference would be to go straight HDMI. It will be expensive to go SDI and then convert to HDMI just for monitoring.

...Lou

Ray Bell · January 26th, 2008, 05:42 PM

The Intensity is not going to work with 30P material.... yet that is....

There's going to be several camera's showing this year with 30P capabilities,
this is native 30P not embedded... Like the Canon HV30 has native 30P...

It will just be a matter of time before the black magic folks will have a new software/firmware upgrade to handle 30P...

Steve Mullen · January 26th, 2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin Eckstein

I am very curious too, as I am putting together a new Mac and want a card for monitoring HD signals (even if on a SD CRT).

The question for monitoring is -- if one has a 1920x1080p24 Timeline, will the card ADD 3-2 pulldown?

Or, maybe the question is: does FCP 6.0.2 add 3-2 pulldown when it plays a p24 timeline or does it assume that's the job of the output card?

If FCP adds pulldown, then it doesn't matter if the card doesn't.

If FCP doesn't -- then I wonder how FCP plays a p24 to your laptop screen or a Cinema display?

Does it just output 24fps? Does it output at 48fps? And in either case -- how does the output match the timeline frame rate to the LCD frame rate which I think is always 60Hz?

And, if it doesn't -- which cards do add 2-3 pulldown? The BM docs say nothing!

Anmol Mishra · April 8th, 2008, 07:59 AM

Has anyone tried to capture via a computer that has a BM Intensity Pro card ? Cineform NeoHD can be used to remove pulldown too..
Just wondering what the quality is via component..
Using HDlink to convert SDI to HDMI is also an option..But I already have the Intensity Pro so it would be better for me to use that...

January 26th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#1
Andrew Wilson Tourist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 123	Intensity Pro Card I see from BlackMagic's website that the intensity pro card supports HD resolutions of 1080i50, 1080i59.94, 720p50 and 720p59.94. Does this mean that the Intensity Pro doesn't support footage shot with an EX1 at 1080 30p? I would mainly by getting the card to monitor to a flatscreen via HDMI and also monitor to a NTSC CRT in SD.

April 8th, 2008, 07:59 AM	#10
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Capture via Component Has anyone tried to capture via a computer that has a BM Intensity Pro card ? Cineform NeoHD can be used to remove pulldown too.. Just wondering what the quality is via component.. Using HDlink to convert SDI to HDMI is also an option..But I already have the Intensity Pro so it would be better for me to use that...

January 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM	#2
Benjamin Eckstein Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 380 Images: 1	I am very curious too, as I am putting together a new Mac and want a card for monitoring HD signals (even if on a SD CRT).

January 26th, 2008, 12:51 PM	#3
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	No problem, the EX1 SDI is 1080i 59.94 with the progressive embedded with a 3:2 pulldown (24P). Sorry I just read your message again, I see you wrote 30P. I imagine there would be no issue with this too, although I have not tried 30P.

January 26th, 2008, 01:15 PM	#4
Benjamin Eckstein Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 380 Images: 1	Steven, do you actually have the Intensity Pro card? I figured it'd work in that way and since its so cheap compared with a Kona card and I really am just looking for component or HDMI monitoring, this could be the ticket.

January 26th, 2008, 01:39 PM	#6
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Actually yes, you are correct, but... since the Intensity Pro card has HDMI inputs, I guess I was assuming you might be using a converter box such as the BM HDLINK. I don't have the Intensity Pro "yet", but in this case pulldown would be used over the 1080i 59.94. I own the BM HDLINK.

January 26th, 2008, 03:22 PM	#7
Louis Nel New Boot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6	Hi Andrew, I too have just switched from HDV to XDCAM EX. I used the blackmagic intensity card to do timeline monitoring when editing 1080i HDV. But now I want to work, and edit, in 1080p, especially 24p and 30p. The blackmagic card will only let you monitor 1080i or 720p. It would not be so bad if it was only a monitoring restriction, but it forces your project be edited in one of their more restrictive codec presets as well. Does anyone know if the SDI Decklink would have 1080p edit and monitoring? Does anyone have experience with the Aja Kona cards in this regard -do you get 1080p and good editing codecs to choose from with their LHe card? I've almost completed building my edit system (8-core mac with final cut pro) but I have not yet figured out how to do timeline monitoring to my HDTV system. My preference would be to go straight HDMI. It will be expensive to go SDI and then convert to HDMI just for monitoring. ...Lou

January 26th, 2008, 05:42 PM	#8
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	The Intensity is not going to work with 30P material.... yet that is.... There's going to be several camera's showing this year with 30P capabilities, this is native 30P not embedded... Like the Canon HV30 has native 30P... It will just be a matter of time before the black magic folks will have a new software/firmware upgrade to handle 30P...