low light and noise

Giovanni Speranza · January 16th, 2008, 09:34 AM

Gain +6dB???
Gain is to be used only in case of live murders, accidents and explosions footages to be sold to CNN !!!

GAIN IS DEVIL!

Stu Holmes · January 16th, 2008, 11:54 AM

My advice / opinion : don't get paranoid about gain.

If you need to use it, use it. Manage it carefully, in conjunction with aperture and appropriate shutter speed (consider dropping shutter speed first) and it'll be fine.

In the end, its all about content rather than obsessing with a magnifying glass that you can see a small amount of image noise. Forget that, concentrate on content & your technique, image composition etc.

Finally, there are well-regarded and easily available noise-reduction software that are inexpensive and work well and you can use these to reduce image noise if its absolutely still a prob.

Mike Marriage · January 16th, 2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giovanni Speranza

Gain +6dB???
Gain is to be used only in case of live murders, accidents and explosions footages to be sold to CNN !!!

GAIN IS DEVIL!

Remember, the client only sees the shot, not the noise and other minor issues professionals lie awake at night worrying about!

Raymond Schlogel · January 16th, 2008, 05:49 PM

Steven, can I ask what some of your settings are? Your blacks look amazing and mine are much more "greyish". Any cine?

- Ray

Steven Thomas · January 16th, 2008, 08:22 PM

Raymond, I actually posted my settings with the original post. Here it is again:

EX1 Low light frame grab
1920x1080 24P
0dB

PP:

HiSat
Cine3
Detail at -15, Freq = +5

If there are others, I'll update this post. I believe I adjusted Black to with the Cine3. I'll let you know.

Raymond Schlogel · January 17th, 2008, 01:22 AM

Hm, than it seems theres quite a jump between Cine3 and Cine4. So no changes to the two different black settings (cant remember the exact terminology on the EX1)?

- Ray

January 16th, 2008, 05:49 PM	#19
Raymond Schlogel Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 162 Images: 3	Steven, can I ask what some of your settings are? Your blacks look amazing and mine are much more "greyish". Any cine? - Ray __________________ www.undergroundplanet.com

January 17th, 2008, 01:22 AM	#21
Raymond Schlogel Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 162 Images: 3	Hm, than it seems theres quite a jump between Cine3 and Cine4. So no changes to the two different black settings (cant remember the exact terminology on the EX1)? - Ray __________________ www.undergroundplanet.com

January 16th, 2008, 09:34 AM	#16
Giovanni Speranza Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lugano, Switzerland Posts: 149	Gain +6dB??? Gain is to be used only in case of live murders, accidents and explosions footages to be sold to CNN !!! GAIN IS DEVIL!

January 16th, 2008, 11:54 AM	#17
Stu Holmes Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 844	My advice / opinion : don't get paranoid about gain. If you need to use it, use it. Manage it carefully, in conjunction with aperture and appropriate shutter speed (consider dropping shutter speed first) and it'll be fine. In the end, its all about content rather than obsessing with a magnifying glass that you can see a small amount of image noise. Forget that, concentrate on content & your technique, image composition etc. Finally, there are well-regarded and easily available noise-reduction software that are inexpensive and work well and you can use these to reduce image noise if its absolutely still a prob.

January 16th, 2008, 08:22 PM	#20
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Raymond, I actually posted my settings with the original post. Here it is again: EX1 Low light frame grab 1920x1080 24P 0dB PP: HiSat Cine3 Detail at -15, Freq = +5 If there are others, I'll update this post. I believe I adjusted Black to with the Cine3. I'll let you know.