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January 26th, 2008, 07:43 PM
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Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Palm Desert, California
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What do you guys think of Doug jensesns settings as recommened in his training video. They are:
Matrix ON -High Sat, Level 3, Phase and r-g=0 Gamma CINE4 Black -3 Black Gamma -2 Low Key SAT = 0 Detail OFF |
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January 26th, 2008, 09:02 PM
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Trustee
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,896
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Michael, You only mentioned the first three matrix settings (Level 3, Phase and r-g=0). What were the rest of them?
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January 26th, 2008, 09:53 PM
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Major Player
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Palm Desert, California
Posts: 311
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1960x1080x30p -3db gain. Other items not mentioned were off or default
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January 27th, 2008, 09:09 AM
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Framegrabs
OK...
Here's a comparison of the EX1 factory settings and my DSC derived Profile, henceforth called TrueColor1. TrueColor1 profile: http://www.dvinfo.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=802&c=2 Factory Settings(PP off) http://www.dvinfo.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=801&c=2 I've saved the PP recipe to my SxS card and copied it to my hard drive. The file format is ASCII, so, it's easy to copy onto your own profile file and loaded into your camera. Here's the recipe: TC1 0000001 0000001 0000000 00007b8 000607b 0000000 000e8d8 000e26a 000d58c 0000e27 0000000 0000000 000337f 0001c72 0007fff 000c0f7 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 00015e0 0000001 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000003 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 000a38e 0001c72 0000001 0000001 000d111 0000000 0004052 0000000 0000002 000ecb4 000f46c 0000000 |
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January 27th, 2008, 09:52 AM
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Major Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spokane, Wa.
Posts: 445
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Would it not be easier for us to just post the actual picture profile "file" itself and execute it as a file instead of individual adjustments? Then we could have a useful list with the actual PP files like on the XH A1 profile thread?
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January 27th, 2008, 09:54 AM
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Mike...
I tried to post the .suf file, but, the DVINFO server wouldn't accept a non-image format. If there was a place on DVINFO.net to post it, I most certainly would have. Perhaps Chris can set something up. |
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January 27th, 2008, 10:24 AM
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Inner Circle
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 4,048
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Bill I shot with your setting and it looked very nice. Yes a little too much red but hard to tell until I get some full sun. Amazing how well peaking works with this setting.
Attached are 6 PP's I have been testing now with Bill’s added. I have been used Steve Thomas setting with great results on two jobs. Thank you to every one with the technical skills to properly help set up PP settings. Attached is a excel file with the 6 settings. Last edited by Paul Cronin; April 17th, 2008 at 01:38 PM. |
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January 27th, 2008, 10:43 AM
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Major Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Spokane, Wa.
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Hi Bill, what if you changed the file extension (.jpg, jpeg etc.)and then we could just rename the extension to .suf? Or will it zip maybe?
Thanks Mike |
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January 27th, 2008, 11:29 AM
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Major Player
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Do the blacks seem overly crushed with Bill's settings. I would think you'd want to record a little more latitude and adjust contrast in post. But that's just me. It definitely fixes some of the green cast issues that I was seeing.
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January 27th, 2008, 11:30 AM
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Inner Circle
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Rhode Island
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Michael it would be nice to just up load off the S&S card the profile but it does not work like the A1. When you upload on the EX1 it changes all camera setting to that saved profile not just Picture Profile. Be careful if you do this and have set up a clip naming sequence since this will change and you could have duplicate clips with the same name. I find it better to just enter the setting one at a time it goes fast with the joy stick.
If someone finds a quicker way I am all ears. |
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January 27th, 2008, 11:31 AM
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Ben...
I don't think you mean latitude. You really mean "headroom"? This setup is designed to maximize latitude, minimize headroom. Proper exposure becomes critical. Use zebra to set exposure, not auto. I agree with you. Blacks may appear slightly crushed. Be sure you're viewing the images with a calibrated monitor, since I've pushed the blacks all the way to 0 IRE. If this bothers you, you can back off of the BLACK setting 1-3 steps, or to your taste. OTOH, if you edit in Vegas, you can recover about 5% on either end, clipped or crushed, with the Levels FX and 32-bit processing. Keep in mind that I set things up for 0 RGB-255 RGB(computer RGB) with no pedestal. If this is headed for NTSC broadcast, at a minimum, one would need to convert to studio RGB (RGB16-RGB235) Last edited by Bill Ravens; January 27th, 2008 at 12:04 PM. |
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January 27th, 2008, 11:00 PM
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Regular Crew
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Thanks for your work on that Bill. |
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January 27th, 2008, 11:20 PM
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January 28th, 2008, 12:39 AM
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Regular Crew
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Just for comparison sake I took a little video of my family room with Bill's settings.
The 1st picture is just the stock settings while the 2nd picture is Bill's. This is at night and I had the cameras gain set to 9db. 1 - http://homepage.mac.com/justin.carls...m-sample-1.jpg 2 - http://homepage.mac.com/justin.carls...m-sample-2.jpg In the stock settings it looks like it blows out the highlights a little more and exposes more of the blacks. While in Bills settings it's reversed. Other than having the reds a 'little' too red for my taste, I'm very happy with the overall richness of the colors! |
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