CineForm support for Sony XDCAM EX at DVinfo.net

David Newman · December 14th, 2007, 08:24 PM

We just did a beta release for Prospect HD and NEO HD, for those wishing to get the best use of their EX cam under Premiere Pro and After Effects. More information here : http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=110264

Daniel Weber · December 14th, 2007, 09:16 PM

David,

What ever happened with your coming out with a Cineform codec for use on Macs?

Thanks,

Daniel Weber

David Newman · December 14th, 2007, 09:47 PM

That's so 6 months ago. :) Where have you been?

Mooho Bae · December 14th, 2007, 10:35 PM

David,

I upgraded my NeoHDV to NeoHD right now, and I tried to convert an .MP4 file from my Ex1 to .AVI, but I failed. The HDLink capture log says "Error:AudioDecoder.CocreateInstance(CLSID-CFMP4AudioSourcePush)(0x80040154-Class not registered) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 1609)".

And converting the MXF file leaves no error massage but the converted .AVI file is just a green screen.

Please help me!

David Newman · December 14th, 2007, 11:17 PM

That is why we beta test. Thank you for your report. We are missing a component in the new build, which is easily fixed. Uninstall NEO HD, and download from the same link again, I just refreshed it with the missing component. Re-install and please try again.

P.S. It is now working on my home PC.

Daniel Weber · December 15th, 2007, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

That's so 6 months ago. :) Where have you been?

Out traveling around the world shooting!!!!

I just asked a question regarding an announcement that you made earlier.

All I asked for was for clarification, not a smart ass answer.

I'm not a PC guy, so I guess I don't need to worry about your products anyway.

David Newman · December 15th, 2007, 12:46 AM

I appologize. Sorry my intended light hearted response come across too harsh. It isn't releated to this post which is regarding our PC products.

Our codec has been available on the Mac for sometime, and comes will all our highend tools to allow cross-platform workflows.

John Hewat · December 15th, 2007, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooho Bae

David,

I upgraded my NeoHDV to NeoHD right now, and I tried to convert an .MP4 file from my Ex1 to .AVI, but I failed. The HDLink capture log says "Error:AudioDecoder.CocreateInstance(CLSID-CFMP4AudioSourcePush)(0x80040154-Class not registered) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 1609)".

And converting the MXF file leaves no error massage but the converted .AVI file is just a green screen.

Please help me!

Same story with the Prospect HD download. I get exactly the same error.

EDIT: Re-downloaded and everything works fine.

RE-EDIT: Wow!

This is probably the first product I've downloaded that worked instantly! I cannot believe how simple this is. I'm sold.

Mooho Bae · December 15th, 2007, 01:38 AM

David,

Thank you for your 'real-time' response.

Now converting .MP4 problem is solved. Maybe you don't support MXF at this moment.. The same problem.

My new problem is that Premiere pro 2.0 do not display the converted .AVI files correctly in the preview window, while window media player correctly plays them.

Edit: I tried to import the AVI files into Vegas Pro 8.0a, but this makes the Vegas shut down... No way to edit the AVI for me now...
Please help me.

Maybe,, Should I open a new ticket at your Cineform support center?

Herminio Cordido · December 15th, 2007, 02:13 AM

"Maybe,, Should I open a new ticket at your Cineform support center?"

mmm,
yeah.

Erwin van Dijck · December 15th, 2007, 07:33 AM

Unfortunately it doesn't work. No EX files in Cineform codec here...

- I downloaded 3.22 Neo,
- installed it over a trial version that still has 6 more days trial period (I do have a previous version of ConnectHD which I can upgrade)
- HDlink syas it is version 3.2.2
- selected a few MXF files
- converted
- HDlink capture log says it is Capture Application version 2.2.5 ?? and Prospect/NEO HD 3.2.2 build 147
- try to play them but the image is completely green
- imported them into Vegas but still the image is green and the audio tracks are longer than the video

Regards,
Erwin

Daniel Weber · December 15th, 2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

I appologize. Sorry my intended light hearted response come across too harsh. It isn't releated to this post which is regarding our PC products.

Our codec has been available on the Mac for sometime, and comes will all our highend tools to allow cross-platform workflows.

David,

Not a problem. Sorry if I didn't find your response funny!!! I shouldn't respond to posts after I have spent all day traveling!!

I will check out your Mac offering.

Daniel Weber

David Newman · December 15th, 2007, 03:46 PM

MXF = green report. I have just tested some XDCAM-HD files and some converted EX files to MXF and everything is working fine. Could someone please upload a short MXF file that has this problem.

Ray Bell · December 15th, 2007, 04:51 PM

David, I am curious....

are there advantages to using Cineform with MxF files versus the MP4 files??

David Newman · December 15th, 2007, 05:05 PM

No advantage using MXF over MP4 files. In both cases we remove the wrappers to extract the MPEG2 core and audio stream and convert that data to CineForm AVI. There is an advantage to using the EX's native MP4 files as they can contain the prized 1920x1080 images, whereas the current Sony MXF implementation only supports 1440x1080. This is why we went to trouble of supporting the MP4 files directly.

December 14th, 2007, 08:24 PM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	CineForm support for Sony XDCAM EX We just did a beta release for Prospect HD and NEO HD, for those wishing to get the best use of their EX cam under Premiere Pro and After Effects. More information here : http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=110264 __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 14th, 2007, 09:47 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	That's so 6 months ago. :) Where have you been? __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 14th, 2007, 10:35 PM	#4
Mooho Bae Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Korea Posts: 52	Help! David, I upgraded my NeoHDV to NeoHD right now, and I tried to convert an .MP4 file from my Ex1 to .AVI, but I failed. The HDLink capture log says "Error:AudioDecoder.CocreateInstance(CLSID-CFMP4AudioSourcePush)(0x80040154-Class not registered) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 1609)". And converting the MXF file leaves no error massage but the converted .AVI file is just a green screen. Please help me! Last edited by Mooho Bae; December 14th, 2007 at 11:05 PM.

December 14th, 2007, 11:17 PM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	That is why we beta test. Thank you for your report. We are missing a component in the new build, which is easily fixed. Uninstall NEO HD, and download from the same link again, I just refreshed it with the missing component. Re-install and please try again. P.S. It is now working on my home PC. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 15th, 2007, 12:46 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I appologize. Sorry my intended light hearted response come across too harsh. It isn't releated to this post which is regarding our PC products. Our codec has been available on the Mac for sometime, and comes will all our highend tools to allow cross-platform workflows. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 14th, 2007, 09:16 PM	#2
Daniel Weber Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 696	David, What ever happened with your coming out with a Cineform codec for use on Macs? Thanks, Daniel Weber

December 15th, 2007, 01:38 AM	#9
Mooho Bae Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Korea Posts: 52	David, Thank you for your 'real-time' response. Now converting .MP4 problem is solved. Maybe you don't support MXF at this moment.. The same problem. My new problem is that Premiere pro 2.0 do not display the converted .AVI files correctly in the preview window, while window media player correctly plays them. Edit: I tried to import the AVI files into Vegas Pro 8.0a, but this makes the Vegas shut down... No way to edit the AVI for me now... Please help me. Maybe,, Should I open a new ticket at your Cineform support center?

December 15th, 2007, 02:13 AM	#10
Herminio Cordido Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 57	"Maybe,, Should I open a new ticket at your Cineform support center?" mmm, yeah.

December 15th, 2007, 07:33 AM	#11
Erwin van Dijck Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Posts: 75	Unfortunately it doesn't work. No EX files in Cineform codec here... - I downloaded 3.22 Neo, - installed it over a trial version that still has 6 more days trial period (I do have a previous version of ConnectHD which I can upgrade) - HDlink syas it is version 3.2.2 - selected a few MXF files - converted - HDlink capture log says it is Capture Application version 2.2.5 ?? and Prospect/NEO HD 3.2.2 build 147 - try to play them but the image is completely green - imported them into Vegas but still the image is green and the audio tracks are longer than the video Regards, Erwin

December 15th, 2007, 03:46 PM	#13
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	MXF = green report. I have just tested some XDCAM-HD files and some converted EX files to MXF and everything is working fine. Could someone please upload a short MXF file that has this problem. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 15th, 2007, 04:51 PM	#14
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	David, I am curious.... are there advantages to using Cineform with MxF files versus the MP4 files??

December 15th, 2007, 05:05 PM	#15
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	No advantage using MXF over MP4 files. In both cases we remove the wrappers to extract the MPEG2 core and audio stream and convert that data to CineForm AVI. There is an advantage to using the EX's native MP4 files as they can contain the prized 1920x1080 images, whereas the current Sony MXF implementation only supports 1440x1080. This is why we went to trouble of supporting the MP4 files directly. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman Last edited by David Newman; December 15th, 2007 at 05:45 PM.