SxS in field Offload at DVinfo.net

Chris Forbes · November 14th, 2007, 04:40 PM

One of these Hitch USB Transfer Device

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp...i_sku=30582110

Plus one of these Kanguru FlashBlu Max USB flash drive - 32 GB

http://shopper.cnet.com/usb-flash-dr...l?tag=srch_3_1

Plus the Sony USB Drive for SxS

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...mory_Card.html

equals not only in the field offloading but "wearable" offloading if the Card reader can go bus powered.

It would give you storage at half the price.

Sami Sanpakkila · November 14th, 2007, 05:11 PM

If this would work you can get a 160 GB Ipod for $349.00, thats a lot of storage space.

Sami

Chris Forbes · November 14th, 2007, 06:21 PM

700 min of HQ video minus what ever space you lose for formating the Ipod.

How cool would it be if you could watch your quicktime proxy files on an Ipod.

The only reason I was going with the flash drive is because the entire setup would be shock proof.

Alex Leith · November 15th, 2007, 08:49 AM

I think whether this will work depends on whether the Sony card reader presents the card as a storage device, or whether you still need to install the SxS drivers.

The Hitachi Sima supports PTP and Mass Storage - both of which the iPod supports directly via the iPod camera adaptor cable - but the iPod only recognizes files stored within the DCIM folder, and will only transfer (non-photo) files via PTP...

So, in order for this to work (either with the Sima or without) the Sony Card reader is going to have to support the PTP transfer protocol.

Chris Forbes · November 16th, 2007, 04:42 PM

only if you want to do it to an Ipod. There are much cheaper bus powered hard drives out there, and the hitch will power them.

Alex Leith · November 16th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Forbes

only if you want to do it to an Ipod. There are much cheaper bus powered hard drives out there, and the hitch will power them.

That's cool (and I really hope it works)... but it really depends on whether the Sima recognizes SxS media...

Paul Cook · November 17th, 2007, 03:01 PM

WOW - great find!

Something tells me there will be some catch that means it won’t work BUT...if somehow it does...the EX just became a LOT more interesting.

Id still be paranoid about drive crashes...would probably want to have two storage devices ( and do it twice) just for added piece of mind.

On a side note does anyone find it a bit odd that Sony have released yet another proprietary format for this camera yet on the new HDV models just announced they are supporting recording to normal SD media?

I cant wait for thei cam to ship and get some first hand information and sample footage.

Chris Forbes · November 18th, 2007, 11:19 AM

If It works. It would be possible to back-up twice. looking at benchmark tests from some of the hard drives I was thinking of using, a 16 GB card will off load in about 10 min.

Zsolt Gordos · November 19th, 2007, 01:37 AM

I have this small USB hard drive with 160Gb disk inside. It is powered from the USB, so all I would need is to connect it to this Hitch and have an SxS USB reader for the other side and I will have cca. 10 hours of storage for HQ clips.

Not bad. I hope it will work. Surely I will give this Hitch a try for 50 bucks.

Chris Forbes · November 20th, 2007, 04:55 PM

http://www.okion.com/en-us/scripts/p...fo.asp?pid=442

Wesley Alfvin · November 21st, 2007, 10:26 PM

Hey Chris,

I saw on your other thread that you got your camera... will you be testing this out any time soon?

I hope so!

Wes

Chris Forbes · November 21st, 2007, 10:28 PM

I am still waiting on the USB reader for my camera. But as soon as that happens.

Wesley Alfvin · November 21st, 2007, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Forbes

I am still waiting on the USB reader for my camera. But as soon as that happens.

Great I can't wait. I really hope that works.

Clark Peters · December 5th, 2007, 10:46 AM

Could you use a Hitch or Okion to download directly from the camera (using the USB cable) to a portable hard drive?

If I understood the Sony information correctly, the SxS card reader is AC powered. Maybe I missed seeing if it had battery power.

I know that downloading directly from the camera using USB would be slower and would keep the camera tied up. This would, however, be a way to increase storage capacity with an absolute minimum of equipment to haul around.

Clark

Steven Thomas · December 5th, 2007, 11:29 AM

I have the Hitch and when I connected it directly to the EX1 via USB,
it did not recognized it. It may work hooked up to the SxS card reader. I'll check it out when I receive mine.

November 14th, 2007, 04:40 PM	#1
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	SxS in field Offload One of these Hitch USB Transfer Device http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp...i_sku=30582110 Plus one of these Kanguru FlashBlu Max USB flash drive - 32 GB http://shopper.cnet.com/usb-flash-dr...l?tag=srch_3_1 Plus the Sony USB Drive for SxS http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...mory_Card.html equals not only in the field offloading but "wearable" offloading if the Card reader can go bus powered. It would give you storage at half the price. Last edited by Chris Forbes; November 14th, 2007 at 04:40 PM. Reason: clarify

November 15th, 2007, 08:49 AM	#4
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	I think whether this will work depends on whether the Sony card reader presents the card as a storage device, or whether you still need to install the SxS drivers. The Hitachi Sima supports PTP and Mass Storage - both of which the iPod supports directly via the iPod camera adaptor cable - but the iPod only recognizes files stored within the DCIM folder, and will only transfer (non-photo) files via PTP... So, in order for this to work (either with the Sima or without) the Sony Card reader is going to have to support the PTP transfer protocol. __________________ Alex

November 19th, 2007, 01:37 AM	#9
Zsolt Gordos Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 414	I have this small USB hard drive with 160Gb disk inside. It is powered from the USB, so all I would need is to connect it to this Hitch and have an SxS USB reader for the other side and I will have cca. 10 hours of storage for HQ clips. Not bad. I hope it will work. Surely I will give this Hitch a try for 50 bucks. __________________ Sony XDCAM EX1r, Canon 5DMkII, Røde NTG2, Røde NT1000, Røde Stereo Videomic, Sachtler DV6 SB on Gitzo 1325V, Steadicam Merlin, Omnitracker, Hackintosh 3.5Ghz Quad 8Gb RAM

November 21st, 2007, 10:26 PM	#11
Wesley Alfvin New Boot Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States Posts: 17	Will you be trying this? Hey Chris, I saw on your other thread that you got your camera... will you be testing this out any time soon? I hope so! Wes

December 5th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#14
Clark Peters Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 123	direct download? Could you use a Hitch or Okion to download directly from the camera (using the USB cable) to a portable hard drive? If I understood the Sony information correctly, the SxS card reader is AC powered. Maybe I missed seeing if it had battery power. I know that downloading directly from the camera using USB would be slower and would keep the camera tied up. This would, however, be a way to increase storage capacity with an absolute minimum of equipment to haul around. Clark

November 14th, 2007, 05:11 PM	#2
Sami Sanpakkila Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 317	If this would work you can get a 160 GB Ipod for $349.00, thats a lot of storage space. Sami

November 14th, 2007, 06:21 PM	#3
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	700 min of HQ video minus what ever space you lose for formating the Ipod. How cool would it be if you could watch your quicktime proxy files on an Ipod. The only reason I was going with the flash drive is because the entire setup would be shock proof.

November 16th, 2007, 04:42 PM	#5
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	only if you want to do it to an Ipod. There are much cheaper bus powered hard drives out there, and the hitch will power them.

November 17th, 2007, 03:01 PM	#7
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	WOW - great find! Something tells me there will be some catch that means it won’t work BUT...if somehow it does...the EX just became a LOT more interesting. Id still be paranoid about drive crashes...would probably want to have two storage devices ( and do it twice) just for added piece of mind. On a side note does anyone find it a bit odd that Sony have released yet another proprietary format for this camera yet on the new HDV models just announced they are supporting recording to normal SD media? I cant wait for thei cam to ship and get some first hand information and sample footage.

November 18th, 2007, 11:19 AM	#8
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	If It works. It would be possible to back-up twice. looking at benchmark tests from some of the hard drives I was thinking of using, a 16 GB card will off load in about 10 min.

November 20th, 2007, 04:55 PM	#10
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	http://www.okion.com/en-us/scripts/p...fo.asp?pid=442

November 21st, 2007, 10:28 PM	#12
Chris Forbes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 155	I am still waiting on the USB reader for my camera. But as soon as that happens.

December 5th, 2007, 11:29 AM	#15
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	I have the Hitch and when I connected it directly to the EX1 via USB, it did not recognized it. It may work hooked up to the SxS card reader. I'll check it out when I receive mine.