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Comparison EX1 - HVX200
I found this comparison between the two cams.
Unfortunately its in german, but there are quite a few pix. http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/...y-PMW-EX1.html have fun... |
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http://translate.google.com/translat...W%2dEX1%2ehtml
This comparison is a little off.. have a look at the difference in DoF of the first image comparison. The red circle thing on the left is tack sharp on the EX1 and the tower itself is out of focus. Sharpness at full tele wide open (as he's describing here) is a misnomer. On the HVX the tower is slightly out of focus but the colour gradation of the shot looks like hes using CinegammaV, which makes the colours really REALLY punchy. The low light comparison is not a surprise though, then again, I've shot with an HVX with a lampshade on and its been MUCH brighter than this.. I seriously doubt this lowlight comparison to be very accurate. I wouldnt mind seeing an EX go up against an XLh1/A1 though |
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Thanks Robert.
My German is poor at best, but from the pictures you certainly get the sense that the EX has a shallower DOF and a wider latitude. The low light 0db comparison showed that the EX 1/2 CMOS is a marked improvement over the HVX 200. I'm normally preaching against judging stills as a quality reference. But, I'm seeing a clear trend where Sony is going with this. And it seems to be aimed at guys like me. So maybe I a little blinded by the possibilities. I've not been this jazzed about a new camera is quite some time. Cheers.
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Thats right, David.
I also have to mention, that a pre-series model was tested, which has an bug in the iris, so most of the pictures in day-light are over-exposed. You can see this very good in the pictures with the tower. Sony Germany confirmed the bug and said, that they are currently working on it. What Peter says is also right. It is a spelling mistake in german language and so it is also miss-translated. The first picture shows DOF with the iris fully opened. Best regards@all Robert |
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What caught my eye was the low light difference between the HVX200 and EX at 0dB both wide open. It appears to have the HVX200 by a couple stops.
Well to be fair, the EX is 1/2" cam, but at the same time, pixel size should be smaller due to rez. This is actually better than I originally thought. I heard it may be a stop better than the F330/350. |
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Chip Size etc
I posted on the low light comparo that really shows an amazing difference.
Regardless of technical specs such as chip size, iris, etc the net result is what we want. A great picture for a price we can deal with. The HVX and EX are line priced and just in low light performance the decision is a no brainer. Longer recording times and cheaper media are all gravy... Mike |
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Oh my gosh, the one telltale sign I observed is the Sony bluish picture is back. This camera would need serious tweaking. Does anyone know of the custom adjustments on the EX1. I expected a shallower depth of field and better low light performance with 1/2" chips. Also, the combination of CMOS and bigger sensors lend to better latitude. However, All in all, I actually preferred the HVX 200 picture vs EX 1. I would like to see the Canon A1 footage vs EX 1.
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John, where did you see the EX?
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If his thoughts came from the German comparison, it was already noted the they had an exposure problem with their pre release EX. Also, the white balance was not correct.
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It was pretty early in the morning when I wrote my previous comment. Yes, it was the German pics I was commenting about, and as some of the other replies indicated, those results can't be trusted. My bad. So, anyway, it appears the EX is going to be a really nice camera.
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John, we hope so, but as you know, we never can tell until we try it ourselfs.
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vs A1
It's kinda soft compared to A1, acording to this cite,
http://www.slashcam.de/images/texte/...arf-scharf.jpg I can't seem to find any other footage comparing to A1. |
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Ariel,
that does not look like a good example for the EX. To me, it appears not so much detail, but the focus and image contrast look different than the A1. I've heard from some early tests it comes close to 1000 lines. That sounds good to me! |
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