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Old September 6th, 2007, 12:36 PM   #1
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SxS ?

I see that the camera is going to come with a 8 gig SxS card.
Does anyone know if you will be able to have lets say a 8 gig and a 16 gig in the camera at the same time?

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Old September 6th, 2007, 12:42 PM   #2
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I don't have any evidence to back up my claim, but I'm willing to bet that there are no requirements that you must have two of the same size cards for it to work.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 12:42 PM   #3
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Just a guess, but it shouldn't make any difference to have two different card sizes at the same time.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 02:15 PM   #4
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Anybody from IBC heard ballpark pricing?
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Old September 6th, 2007, 06:57 PM   #5
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Press release here:
http://www.sonybiz.net/biz/view/Show...e=PressRelease

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The 8GB SBP-8 will be priced around €400 and the 16GB SBP-16 around €700. Both models will be available in November 2007 *3.
At today's exchange rate, that's about $550 for an 8GB card, and $950 for a 16GB card.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #6
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In watching all that's going on with the Ex camera I too am excited about the possiblities. However I have heard something completely different as to the price of the cards. Not $500 except perhaps for the 64gig when and if it comes out. The express cards are relatively cheap in comparison to the P2 cards and the workflow is much less convoluted. Now having said that we ALL could be wrong but why not hold judgement about the camera AND the media until it's really out and has REAL pricing. Then and only then can an intelligent decision be made about it's worth and value to any one person. Perhaps to you it's Sony hype and has no value to many others it might be THE thing they've been looking for. After hauling cameras around for going on 25 years I can only say like many other, I seen everything and heard all of the promises, some were real most were not.
Wait until the product is out and priced before condeming it or the manufacturer.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 08:39 PM   #7
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then there is no advantage of doing the SONY route vs PAnasonic. I knew it was too good to be true, classic SONY. sigh
Again, you can't just take a price in Euro's and do a currency conversion to indicate what it might cost in the USA. Different markets.

I'd guess that the USA prices in US$ will be about half-to-2/3rds of what those figures in previous post indicate. just gotta wait and see, but remember European prices are always high compared to those in USA etc. I reckon streetprice of a 16Gb SxS card might be around US$5-600.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 08:40 PM   #8
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Its already on their press release. What else is there to wait for ?

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In watching all that's going on with the Ex camera I too am excited about the possiblities. However I have heard something completely different as to the price of the cards. Not $500 except perhaps for the 64gig when and if it comes out. The express cards are relatively cheap in comparison to the P2 cards and the workflow is much less convoluted. Now having said that we ALL could be wrong but why not hold judgement about the camera AND the media until it's really out and has REAL pricing. Then and only then can an intelligent decision be made about it's worth and value to any one person. Perhaps to you it's Sony hype and has no value to many others it might be THE thing they've been looking for. After hauling cameras around for going on 25 years I can only say like many other, I seen everything and heard all of the promises, some were real most were not.
Wait until the product is out and priced before condeming it or the manufacturer.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 08:52 PM   #9
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Well then there are only 2 ways to go.
One is that things change. I've seen lots of press releases that change drastically from intro to release.
The other is don't buy the camera. ;-)
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Old September 6th, 2007, 09:32 PM   #10
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How about 3x the amount of video per GB for 1080 video! That means even if the cards cost the same the way Sony does it will always fit more video for the cost of the card. Thats a huge advantage over P2.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #11
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The other is don't buy the camera. ;-)
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The other, is don't buy a Sony branded SxS card. It won't be long before we can confirm if standard ExpressCard flash cards work in the EX1 (non USB ones) as we suspect they will. They may not have the read speed of 800Mbps but as long as they can reliably sustain a write speed of 35Mbps it shouldn't be a problem should it?

Stick with a reputable vendor such as Sandisk (their generic product releases) and Lexar & it should help to pull any excessivly priced Sony prices down through lack of sales. Sony's ones are likely more expensive though not just because of the Sony name, but because of the sustainable read/write performance of the cards.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/02/l...resscard-ssds/
mixed reviews about performance though.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 08:56 AM   #12
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It won't be long before we can confirm if standard ExpressCard flash cards work in the EX1
Mikko Wilson is at the show now, filing live reports at ibc.mikkowilson.com. He asked the Sony rep if the EX1 would be able to record to any media other than SxS, and they said "no - SxS only". He tried anyway with his own card, and it didn't work.

If you have specific questions, Mikko's got a text message system set up on that site so you can send his cell phone a text message of the question you want asked, and he'll try to get over there and ask it and post the results on his news feed.
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