Where are the Sony PD 150 or the PD 170? at DVinfo.net

Charles Tucker · September 4th, 2006, 08:00 AM

I would like to know is videographer holding on to there Sony PD 150 and PD 170. I notice I do not see any for sale, what going on? I will be looking for a use one and I can not find any for sale. I am looking to get me a personal camera for myself and since I shoot with a Sony DSR 370 that is why I wanted one of these cameras.

I would love to hear what this board has to say.

Thanks
Charles

Chris Hurd · September 4th, 2006, 10:09 AM

Moved from Open DV Discussion to our PD170 forum.

Leslie Wand · September 5th, 2006, 01:01 AM

my 170 will go till it, or i drop out permanently ;-}

leslie

Craig Seeman · September 5th, 2006, 05:54 AM

In many markets Standard Def is still the delivery method for most clients.
The PD-150/170 is still the low light king.
I can imagine that sales are declining because I suspect most of those opting for SD 1/3" cameras are buying the Panasonic DVX 100B.
150/170 owners are waiting for the HD client demand to increase, HD delivery methods penatrates the market (HDTV, HD Disc Players, HD Disc Burners) to move into that market. Also many are not happy with HDV codec limitations that result in motion artifacts. For the Sony fans there's the issue that the FX/Z1 does not do 24p or progressive of any type.

Result is that many 150/170 owners are likely in a "holding" pattern.

My fantasy is that Sony comes out with a 1/3" XDCAM HD camera that can do 24p and even 60p.

Tom Hardwick · September 9th, 2006, 05:49 AM

Sony recent announcement should see the death of the VX/PD line. The FX7 and the V1-E have been introduced to wash those silly ''I'll buy a Panasonic'' thoughts from your head.

tom.

Richard Zlamany · September 9th, 2006, 09:55 AM

I doubt we will see the "death" anytime soon since the new cams mentioned will not be better in low light and will be more expensive.

I'll be buying a vx2100 within the next few months to backup the pd170 unless something changes my mind. I figure I have a good year or two of use with this setup.

Tom Hardwick · September 9th, 2006, 10:36 AM

Here in the UK the VX2100 has been unavailable for some time Richard, and the PD170 is only available to special order at the dealers. But then 16:9 is a prime requirement here - it may not be where you are.

tom.

Leslie Wand · September 10th, 2006, 03:43 AM

tom's right, her in oz 16:9 is a prime requirement from broadcasters, however, they'll still take anything newsworthy on vhs, mobile phone, etc., they'll also take regional material in 4:3 since they can't afford to send crews, or distribute cameras to the outback / rural locations. as for anything but tv, as long as it's sharp, that's all that matters. 16:9 is (at present) is a complete non-starter out here in the bush....

leslie

Richard Zlamany · September 10th, 2006, 12:39 PM

Nevertheless, an area requirement does not constitute the "death" considering there is a world out there. It is more like the beginning of the middle of a change.

I had a client book me for next year. They have a 16:9 set. I asked if they wanted that format. They said no.

The OP wanted to know if people with the pd & vx series would soon be selling their cams so he could purchase them. That too, shows not a "death".

I merely am responding that, no I am keeping mine, buying more, and that the series of cams are alive and well.

Hopefully, they come down more in price, since the new series are becoming more available.

September 4th, 2006, 08:00 AM	#1
Charles Tucker Tourist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raleigh, N.C. Posts: 3	Where are the Sony PD 150 or the PD 170? I would like to know is videographer holding on to there Sony PD 150 and PD 170. I notice I do not see any for sale, what going on? I will be looking for a use one and I can not find any for sale. I am looking to get me a personal camera for myself and since I shoot with a Sony DSR 370 that is why I wanted one of these cameras. I would love to hear what this board has to say. Thanks Charles

September 4th, 2006, 10:09 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Moved from Open DV Discussion to our PD170 forum. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 5th, 2006, 01:01 AM	#3
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	my 170 will go till it, or i drop out permanently ;-} leslie

September 5th, 2006, 05:54 AM	#4
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	In many markets Standard Def is still the delivery method for most clients. The PD-150/170 is still the low light king. I can imagine that sales are declining because I suspect most of those opting for SD 1/3" cameras are buying the Panasonic DVX 100B. 150/170 owners are waiting for the HD client demand to increase, HD delivery methods penatrates the market (HDTV, HD Disc Players, HD Disc Burners) to move into that market. Also many are not happy with HDV codec limitations that result in motion artifacts. For the Sony fans there's the issue that the FX/Z1 does not do 24p or progressive of any type. Result is that many 150/170 owners are likely in a "holding" pattern. My fantasy is that Sony comes out with a 1/3" XDCAM HD camera that can do 24p and even 60p.

September 9th, 2006, 05:49 AM	#5
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Sony recent announcement should see the death of the VX/PD line. The FX7 and the V1-E have been introduced to wash those silly ''I'll buy a Panasonic'' thoughts from your head. tom.

September 9th, 2006, 09:55 AM	#6
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	I doubt we will see the "death" anytime soon since the new cams mentioned will not be better in low light and will be more expensive. I'll be buying a vx2100 within the next few months to backup the pd170 unless something changes my mind. I figure I have a good year or two of use with this setup.

September 9th, 2006, 10:36 AM	#7
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Here in the UK the VX2100 has been unavailable for some time Richard, and the PD170 is only available to special order at the dealers. But then 16:9 is a prime requirement here - it may not be where you are. tom.

September 10th, 2006, 03:43 AM	#8
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	tom's right, her in oz 16:9 is a prime requirement from broadcasters, however, they'll still take anything newsworthy on vhs, mobile phone, etc., they'll also take regional material in 4:3 since they can't afford to send crews, or distribute cameras to the outback / rural locations. as for anything but tv, as long as it's sharp, that's all that matters. 16:9 is (at present) is a complete non-starter out here in the bush.... leslie

September 10th, 2006, 12:39 PM	#9
Richard Zlamany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamden CT Posts: 470	Nevertheless, an area requirement does not constitute the "death" considering there is a world out there. It is more like the beginning of the middle of a change. I had a client book me for next year. They have a 16:9 set. I asked if they wanted that format. They said no. The OP wanted to know if people with the pd & vx series would soon be selling their cams so he could purchase them. That too, shows not a "death". I merely am responding that, no I am keeping mine, buying more, and that the series of cams are alive and well. Hopefully, they come down more in price, since the new series are becoming more available.