Stupid VX2000 newb question at DVinfo.net

DongWon Song · March 1st, 2003, 08:07 PM

This is probably in the manual and I'd look it up if I could find the damn thing...

But, someone gave me a tape on some format called VHSC. So to dig this thing onto my computer, i need to dump it to minidv first. I thought "ok, easy." I have the two cameras in hand, I connect the rca cable from my DVCam to the VHSC thingie, and record it onto a DVtape.

Unfortunately, this isn't working. If I play the VHSC it appears just fine on my VX2000's screen, but I can't figure out how to convince my camera to record the incoming stream of video. Anyone know how to do this? I'm sure it's something really simple, but when I hit the record button that's on the VCR panel (the thing that lights up when I put it in VCR mode) nothing happens....

Anyhow, I'd really appreciate any info and thanks in advance for your help!

Mike Rehmus · March 1st, 2003, 10:21 PM

If the video is seen on the LCD, then it is possible that the tape you have inserted has the copy protection tab in the protect position. There are two record buttons on the camera and the commander. Both have to be pushed to record.

I'm looking at the manual for the 2000. Unless there are some bizarre gotchas, that should work.

Rhett Allen · March 1st, 2003, 11:55 PM

Are you in VTR mode or camera mode? You could also just plug the VX2000 into the computer and play the tape thru instead of recording it on MiniDV first and just capture it from the SVHSC using your camera as a converter.

DongWon Song · March 2nd, 2003, 01:00 AM

Great, thanks for the info. I didn't realize I could just patch the SVHC through my own cam onto the computer.

And Mike, I'll try that, but do you know which mode I have to be in? VTR or Camera?

Mike Rehmus · March 2nd, 2003, 02:59 PM

VTR AFAIK. I never think about it, I just do it.

Rick Spilman · March 2nd, 2003, 06:00 PM

If you are using the camera as a passthrough just be sure to have the "DV Out" set as "On". Do this in the "VCR Set" menu when the camera is in VCR mode. Otherwise it won't work. I know. I tried.

Boyd Ostroff · March 3rd, 2003, 03:06 PM

You know, the last time I tried that (quite awhile ago) I couldn't get it to pass through the VX-2000 via firewire into FCP. I did set AV Out in the menus, and the image showed on the LCD screen. But it wouldn't capture in FCP. Finally I just recorded it to tape on the VX-2000 and then captured the tape. Never really did any followup troubleshooting, but I always wondered whether this was a glitch or a "feature" ;-)

March 27th, 2003, 12:05 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rick Spilman : If you are using the camera as a passthrough just be sure to have the "DV Out" set as "On". Do this in the "VCR Set" menu when the camera is in VCR mode. Otherwise it won't work. I know. I tried. -->>>

Im confused, I am copy from harddrive, firewire into the vx2000, then over to a vcr vhs tape and it works fine. my DV Out is off?

why is it working?

David Hurdon · March 27th, 2003, 06:17 AM

The recommendation you quote is intended for bringing analogue into the camcorder for conversion to DV. What you have done is the opposite, pass DV through to VHS (analogue). The DV out setting is out from the camera to the computer, not out to VHS. I hope that helps.

Garret Ambrosio · March 27th, 2003, 11:35 AM

Then ofcourse there is the more expensive way of using an ANALOG to DV converter and just play the VHS through the VHS-C (no wear on your cam :) ) and capture that way.

Alan Christensen · March 28th, 2003, 01:00 AM

I'm not quite sure what the problem is here? It is very straightforward to record from an analog camera to a VX2000. Just connect the RCA cables from the analog camera into the RCA jacks on the VX2000. (You can use the S-video cable for the video if you have an S-output on the analog camera.) Put the VX2000 in VCR mode, and push the TWO lighted record buttons at the same time on the top of the VX2000. The VX2000 will then start recording whatever is coming into its RCA jacks. The only trick is to push both buttons on the top of the VX2000 at the same time to put it into RECORD mode and to make sure that your DV tape is not write-protected. I find this is a convenient way of getting a DV version of an analog tape. Once in DV, it is simple to get into your computer.

Mike Black · March 31st, 2003, 10:10 PM

Hi dongwon son,
I had the same trouble getting the converted signal out puted to the computer until I took out the tape and had no more trouble.
Mike

DongWon Song · April 1st, 2003, 09:51 AM

yeah, in the end I dumped it to a DV tape since they needed their camera back. I just didn't press BOTH record buttons, that's all.

Told ya it was a newb question...

March 1st, 2003, 08:07 PM	#1
DongWon Song New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 8	Stupid VX2000 newb question This is probably in the manual and I'd look it up if I could find the damn thing... But, someone gave me a tape on some format called VHSC. So to dig this thing onto my computer, i need to dump it to minidv first. I thought "ok, easy." I have the two cameras in hand, I connect the rca cable from my DVCam to the VHSC thingie, and record it onto a DVtape. Unfortunately, this isn't working. If I play the VHSC it appears just fine on my VX2000's screen, but I can't figure out how to convince my camera to record the incoming stream of video. Anyone know how to do this? I'm sure it's something really simple, but when I hit the record button that's on the VCR panel (the thing that lights up when I put it in VCR mode) nothing happens.... Anyhow, I'd really appreciate any info and thanks in advance for your help!

March 1st, 2003, 10:21 PM	#2
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	If the video is seen on the LCD, then it is possible that the tape you have inserted has the copy protection tab in the protect position. There are two record buttons on the camera and the commander. Both have to be pushed to record. I'm looking at the manual for the 2000. Unless there are some bizarre gotchas, that should work. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

March 2nd, 2003, 02:59 PM	#5
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	VTR AFAIK. I never think about it, I just do it. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

March 27th, 2003, 12:05 AM	#8
Brian Mackey Posts: n/a	Passthrough to VCR <<<-- Originally posted by Rick Spilman : If you are using the camera as a passthrough just be sure to have the "DV Out" set as "On". Do this in the "VCR Set" menu when the camera is in VCR mode. Otherwise it won't work. I know. I tried. -->>> Im confused, I am copy from harddrive, firewire into the vx2000, then over to a vcr vhs tape and it works fine. my DV Out is off? why is it working?

March 27th, 2003, 06:17 AM	#9
David Hurdon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 484	Stupid VX2000 newb question The recommendation you quote is intended for bringing analogue into the camcorder for conversion to DV. What you have done is the opposite, pass DV through to VHS (analogue). The DV out setting is out from the camera to the computer, not out to VHS. I hope that helps. __________________ Site:http://www.faceliftmarketing.ca Blog:http://www.websitevideo.blogspot.com

March 1st, 2003, 11:55 PM	#3
Rhett Allen Major Player Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 607	Are you in VTR mode or camera mode? You could also just plug the VX2000 into the computer and play the tape thru instead of recording it on MiniDV first and just capture it from the SVHSC using your camera as a converter.

March 2nd, 2003, 01:00 AM	#4
DongWon Song New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 8	Great, thanks for the info. I didn't realize I could just patch the SVHC through my own cam onto the computer. And Mike, I'll try that, but do you know which mode I have to be in? VTR or Camera?

March 2nd, 2003, 06:00 PM	#6
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	If you are using the camera as a passthrough just be sure to have the "DV Out" set as "On". Do this in the "VCR Set" menu when the camera is in VCR mode. Otherwise it won't work. I know. I tried.

March 3rd, 2003, 03:06 PM	#7
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	You know, the last time I tried that (quite awhile ago) I couldn't get it to pass through the VX-2000 via firewire into FCP. I did set AV Out in the menus, and the image showed on the LCD screen. But it wouldn't capture in FCP. Finally I just recorded it to tape on the VX-2000 and then captured the tape. Never really did any followup troubleshooting, but I always wondered whether this was a glitch or a "feature" ;-)

March 27th, 2003, 11:35 AM	#10
Garret Ambrosio Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 263	Then ofcourse there is the more expensive way of using an ANALOG to DV converter and just play the VHS through the VHS-C (no wear on your cam :) ) and capture that way.

March 28th, 2003, 01:00 AM	#11
Alan Christensen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: California Posts: 139	Recording from analog camcorder to VX2000 I'm not quite sure what the problem is here? It is very straightforward to record from an analog camera to a VX2000. Just connect the RCA cables from the analog camera into the RCA jacks on the VX2000. (You can use the S-video cable for the video if you have an S-output on the analog camera.) Put the VX2000 in VCR mode, and push the TWO lighted record buttons at the same time on the top of the VX2000. The VX2000 will then start recording whatever is coming into its RCA jacks. The only trick is to push both buttons on the top of the VX2000 at the same time to put it into RECORD mode and to make sure that your DV tape is not write-protected. I find this is a convenient way of getting a DV version of an analog tape. Once in DV, it is simple to get into your computer.

March 31st, 2003, 10:10 PM	#12
Mike Black Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Perez Zeledon, Costa Rica Posts: 37	Converting SVHS to DV using VX2000 Hi dongwon son, I had the same trouble getting the converted signal out puted to the computer until I took out the tape and had no more trouble. Mike

April 1st, 2003, 09:51 AM	#13
DongWon Song New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 8	yeah, in the end I dumped it to a DV tape since they needed their camera back. I just didn't press BOTH record buttons, that's all. Told ya it was a newb question...