Sony VX2100--problems like GL2 "Remove Tape" Problem at DVinfo.net

Jim Corley · April 22nd, 2006, 10:35 PM

I am going to be purchasing a camera in the next few months and thought that I had decided on the Canon GL2... until I came across the thread dealing with the "Remove Casette" error. It appears that this error is fairly common with the Canon GL2 and not something that I am not excited about dealing with. It sounds like I could purchase a DV Tape rewinder and avoid the problem, but I am wondering if I would be better off to just purchase a Sony VX2100? I saw some input on the GL2 thread stating that the VX2100 has similiar problems so I was wondering if anyone can either verify that fact, or refute it based on your experience with the VX2100?

Thanks for your help,
Jim

Aviv Hallale · April 23rd, 2006, 04:32 AM

What problem is this? The one where if you play a tape to the end in the camera it will eat the tape? I believe that was an inherent problem on the VX2000 but it's been cleared up on the 2100.

David Ennis · April 23rd, 2006, 12:33 PM

Jim,
Although I am an advocate of the GL2, I must admit that you see a lot of GL2 "EJECT TAPE" error complaints all over the place, but the only post I've seen about that occuring in the VX2100 is the one you're referring to.

Tom Tomkowiak · April 24th, 2006, 09:18 AM

I've been using a VX2100 for about a year now and haven't experienced this error.

Austin Puskas · April 24th, 2006, 09:01 PM

I've been useing the gl2 for about a year and I haven't received the '' eject tape'' error

Chris Barcellos · April 24th, 2006, 10:16 PM

I have a VX2000, never ate a tape. I have on two or three occasions gotten an eject tape message, did so, ran a tape cleaner, and then went on about my business. You should be considering camera for what you want, not what some one who had some bad luck with a camera is griping about. There is always a belly acher out there on any tried and true product. I believe the Sony VX2100 will outshine GL2 in most areas, including low light, sharpness and autofocus features, but you may like the color rendition better in the GL2. I figure most of the things in VX2100 that people don't like can be corrected in post, ie., softening the picture, adjusting color.

But get what you feel most comfortable with, otherwise, you'll become one of those belly achers.

Jay Voog · August 23rd, 2006, 11:10 AM

funny you should mention this...
my vx2100 cam seems to have this problem. I can't go past 50 minutes on the tape, or most likely when i rewind the tape...it eats it.

i can record on the full tape and then rewind it in another deck or cam, and then play it in vx2100 and it seems to be fine. so that is what i usually do.
Very annoying though.

Any one else dealt with this problem? I would like to get it repaired, but not sure if i can trust it anymore?

I love the camera...just wish i could feel safe to rewind the tapes (ahh, the things people take for granted sometimes).

Any advice?
Thanks in advance.

Chris Barcellos · August 23rd, 2006, 04:58 PM

edit: already responded to this thread, didn't realize it.

George Ellis · August 23rd, 2006, 06:26 PM

I have had a VX2100 for about 3 years now and this issue is foreign to me. IOW, I have never seen an issue like you have described.

Craig Seeman · August 23rd, 2006, 08:27 PM

Sounds like you need the tape path realigned. You can send it to Sony if it's under warranty, otherwise I'd strongly recommend sending it to Armato's in NYC (Queens, NY).

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Originally Posted by Jay Voog

funny you should mention this...
my vx2100 cam seems to have this problem. I can't go past 50 minutes on the tape, or most likely when i rewind the tape...it eats it.

i can record on the full tape and then rewind it in another deck or cam, and then play it in vx2100 and it seems to be fine. so that is what i usually do.
Very annoying though.

Any one else dealt with this problem? I would like to get it repaired, but not sure if i can trust it anymore?

I love the camera...just wish i could feel safe to rewind the tapes (ahh, the things people take for granted sometimes).

Any advice?
Thanks in advance.

Tom Hardwick · August 25th, 2006, 07:45 AM

This was a problem on the TRV900, but I've been using 2 VX2ks for many years and never experienced this tape crinkle on rewind.

John Laird · August 25th, 2006, 09:41 AM

I've never seen this on a VX2000 I've used or on my PD170. I have experienced the "CLEANING CASSETTE" error on my PD though. Turning the camera off and back on clears it. I've attributed the error to the tapes more than the camera. If I switch tapes or move to a different spot on the offending tape, the error goes away. I do run a cleaning cassette periodically (every 15-20 hours of recording).

John

April 22nd, 2006, 10:35 PM	#1
Jim Corley New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 10	Sony VX2100--problems like GL2 "Remove Tape" Problem I am going to be purchasing a camera in the next few months and thought that I had decided on the Canon GL2... until I came across the thread dealing with the "Remove Casette" error. It appears that this error is fairly common with the Canon GL2 and not something that I am not excited about dealing with. It sounds like I could purchase a DV Tape rewinder and avoid the problem, but I am wondering if I would be better off to just purchase a Sony VX2100? I saw some input on the GL2 thread stating that the VX2100 has similiar problems so I was wondering if anyone can either verify that fact, or refute it based on your experience with the VX2100? Thanks for your help, Jim

April 23rd, 2006, 12:33 PM	#3
David Ennis Fred Retread Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 1,227	Jim, Although I am an advocate of the GL2, I must admit that you see a lot of GL2 "EJECT TAPE" error complaints all over the place, but the only post I've seen about that occuring in the VX2100 is the one you're referring to. __________________ "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence..." - Calvin Coolidge "My brain is wired to want to know how other things are wired." - Me

April 24th, 2006, 10:16 PM	#6
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	VX2000 Eat Tapes ?? I have a VX2000, never ate a tape. I have on two or three occasions gotten an eject tape message, did so, ran a tape cleaner, and then went on about my business. You should be considering camera for what you want, not what some one who had some bad luck with a camera is griping about. There is always a belly acher out there on any tried and true product. I believe the Sony VX2100 will outshine GL2 in most areas, including low light, sharpness and autofocus features, but you may like the color rendition better in the GL2. I figure most of the things in VX2100 that people don't like can be corrected in post, ie., softening the picture, adjusting color. But get what you feel most comfortable with, otherwise, you'll become one of those belly achers. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

August 23rd, 2006, 11:10 AM	#7
Jay Voog Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 86	always had this problem... funny you should mention this... my vx2100 cam seems to have this problem. I can't go past 50 minutes on the tape, or most likely when i rewind the tape...it eats it. i can record on the full tape and then rewind it in another deck or cam, and then play it in vx2100 and it seems to be fine. so that is what i usually do. Very annoying though. Any one else dealt with this problem? I would like to get it repaired, but not sure if i can trust it anymore? I love the camera...just wish i could feel safe to rewind the tapes (ahh, the things people take for granted sometimes). Any advice? Thanks in advance. __________________ Jay ---------------------------- Sony VX2100 cam; FCP 5.0.4

August 23rd, 2006, 04:58 PM	#8
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	edit: already responded to this thread, didn't realize it. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 23rd, 2006, 04:32 AM	#2
Aviv Hallale Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 276	What problem is this? The one where if you play a tape to the end in the camera it will eat the tape? I believe that was an inherent problem on the VX2000 but it's been cleared up on the 2100.

April 24th, 2006, 09:18 AM	#4
Tom Tomkowiak Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the NC Crystal Coast Posts: 203	I've been using a VX2100 for about a year now and haven't experienced this error.

April 24th, 2006, 09:01 PM	#5
Austin Puskas New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 24	I've been useing the gl2 for about a year and I haven't received the '' eject tape'' error

August 23rd, 2006, 06:26 PM	#9
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	I have had a VX2100 for about 3 years now and this issue is foreign to me. IOW, I have never seen an issue like you have described.

August 25th, 2006, 07:45 AM	#11
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	This was a problem on the TRV900, but I've been using 2 VX2ks for many years and never experienced this tape crinkle on rewind.

August 25th, 2006, 09:41 AM	#12
John Laird Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 32	I've never seen this on a VX2000 I've used or on my PD170. I have experienced the "CLEANING CASSETTE" error on my PD though. Turning the camera off and back on clears it. I've attributed the error to the tapes more than the camera. If I switch tapes or move to a different spot on the offending tape, the error goes away. I do run a cleaning cassette periodically (every 15-20 hours of recording). John