Sony VX2100 vs Panasonic AG-DVC80 vs Cannon GL2 at DVinfo.net

Jaime Cantu · March 3rd, 2004, 03:06 AM

Hello. I´ve seen a lot of vs threads, but none like this. I own a sony VX1000 that i basicly use for weddings and childrens birthday parties. I would like to buy a new camera. Here is my dilema, i would like to use mics for interviews in some events and i like a great picture when i can´t use lights. The sony VX1000 sound is kind of crappy, i should buy a beacktek adapter so i can use professional mics (XLR). We have the same situation with the VX2100, and the GL2, but the DVc80 has and integrated XLR and Phantom Power but the picture appears to be the worst of the other options( in the night). On the other hand i can use my lenses and bateries of my VX1000 in the VX2100 (and will save money).
Why should i buy? shold i stick with sony and buy a beachtek XLR adapter or change to Panasonic or Cannon. And besides i would like to spend like 2500-2700 dollars.

Thanks for any help.

Frank Granovski · March 3rd, 2004, 03:57 AM

Which cam do you like the best? Stick with that one. If it needs a Beachtek, then buy a Beachtek, or one of the other XLR adaptors.

Are you saying that the GL2 is better in lower light than the DVC80? Really?

Rob Easler · March 3rd, 2004, 08:49 AM

Yeah Jamie I don't think the GL2 is better in low light than the 80. I own both. I have a friend comming over today with a 150 so I can do comparrison shots between all three. I am considering if I want to sell the GL2 in favor of buying a 2100 or 150. I do weddings and could use the low light advantage. I just dont want to give up 20x.

Jaime Cantu · March 3rd, 2004, 11:03 AM

My mistake, i was trying to refer to he XL1s. In B&H is 700 dollars more that the Sony Vx2100.

Mike Rehmus · March 3rd, 2004, 01:26 PM

Unless your VX-1000 batteries are very recent, they may not play in the VX2100.

I'd not buy a new camera unless you really need low light capability. Then I'd get the PD170 if you are getting paid for your work. The 170 is more convenient than the 2100 when you are in a rush. Easier to set up with external sound equipment too.

With your present camera get an XLR adapter and a few microphones. (The Sign Video XLR adapter is my preferred brand after years of use) or a Beachtek (get the Phantom power if possible).

New cameras won't obviate the need for external microphones used off-camera.

James Kelly · April 5th, 2004, 03:59 PM

Which would be #1, #2, #3 based on ability and image quality.

Regardless of price.
Canon GL2 $1750 at buydig
Panasonic AG-DVC80 $1899 at buydig
Sony VX2100 $2160 us1camera

Mike Rehmus · April 5th, 2004, 08:40 PM

James, welcome.

you cannot receive a good answer without telling us for what purpose you are going to use the camera.

Rob Easler · April 5th, 2004, 09:17 PM

Yup. Each one of these cameras excell in a different area. They are all good. I would want a mix of them all in one cam.

-the balance, audio,LCD,viewfinder, focus, sharpness of the 80
-the light weight, low cost and 20xzoom of the GL2
-the clean picture, good auto mode and low light ability ov the VX

Ray Saavedra · April 5th, 2004, 10:03 PM

All I want is good low light capability like the vx/pd and maybe a longer zoom on a DVX100 and I would be a happy man. I had to purchase a PD170 for the low light. I'm hoping that Panasonic comes up with low light capability on their future DVX. I already miss my DVX but I know I needed the PD for it's low light. The Panasonic is well balance handheld compare to the PD with or without it's wide angle lens.

JR

Glen Elliott · April 6th, 2004, 07:46 AM

The GL-1 is NOT better in low-light over the DVC80. GL-1= 1/4" ccds.......DVC80= 1/3"ccds.

Plus I've worked with both a GL-1 and a DVX100- no comparision.

Richard Iredale · April 10th, 2004, 10:47 PM

I'd be very nervous about buying from us1camera. Take a look here:

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2898.html

March 3rd, 2004, 01:26 PM	#5
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Unless your VX-1000 batteries are very recent, they may not play in the VX2100. I'd not buy a new camera unless you really need low light capability. Then I'd get the PD170 if you are getting paid for your work. The 170 is more convenient than the 2100 when you are in a rush. Easier to set up with external sound equipment too. With your present camera get an XLR adapter and a few microphones. (The Sign Video XLR adapter is my preferred brand after years of use) or a Beachtek (get the Phantom power if possible). New cameras won't obviate the need for external microphones used off-camera. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

April 5th, 2004, 03:59 PM	#6
James Kelly New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 13	what about if one owns nothing currently ? Which would be #1, #2, #3 based on ability and image quality. Regardless of price. Canon GL2 $1750 at buydig Panasonic AG-DVC80 $1899 at buydig Sony VX2100 $2160 us1camera

April 5th, 2004, 08:40 PM	#7
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	James, welcome. you cannot receive a good answer without telling us for what purpose you are going to use the camera. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

March 3rd, 2004, 03:06 AM	#1
Jaime Cantu Tourist Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2	Sony VX2100 vs Panasonic AG-DVC80 vs Cannon GL2 Hello. I´ve seen a lot of vs threads, but none like this. I own a sony VX1000 that i basicly use for weddings and childrens birthday parties. I would like to buy a new camera. Here is my dilema, i would like to use mics for interviews in some events and i like a great picture when i can´t use lights. The sony VX1000 sound is kind of crappy, i should buy a beacktek adapter so i can use professional mics (XLR). We have the same situation with the VX2100, and the GL2, but the DVc80 has and integrated XLR and Phantom Power but the picture appears to be the worst of the other options( in the night). On the other hand i can use my lenses and bateries of my VX1000 in the VX2100 (and will save money). Why should i buy? shold i stick with sony and buy a beachtek XLR adapter or change to Panasonic or Cannon. And besides i would like to spend like 2500-2700 dollars. Thanks for any help.

March 3rd, 2004, 03:57 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Which cam do you like the best? Stick with that one. If it needs a Beachtek, then buy a Beachtek, or one of the other XLR adaptors. Are you saying that the GL2 is better in lower light than the DVC80? Really?

March 3rd, 2004, 08:49 AM	#3
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Yeah Jamie I don't think the GL2 is better in low light than the 80. I own both. I have a friend comming over today with a 150 so I can do comparrison shots between all three. I am considering if I want to sell the GL2 in favor of buying a 2100 or 150. I do weddings and could use the low light advantage. I just dont want to give up 20x.

March 3rd, 2004, 11:03 AM	#4
Jaime Cantu Tourist Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2	My mistake, i was trying to refer to he XL1s. In B&H is 700 dollars more that the Sony Vx2100.

April 5th, 2004, 09:17 PM	#8
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Yup. Each one of these cameras excell in a different area. They are all good. I would want a mix of them all in one cam. -the balance, audio,LCD,viewfinder, focus, sharpness of the 80 -the light weight, low cost and 20xzoom of the GL2 -the clean picture, good auto mode and low light ability ov the VX

April 5th, 2004, 10:03 PM	#9
Ray Saavedra Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 127	All I want is good low light capability like the vx/pd and maybe a longer zoom on a DVX100 and I would be a happy man. I had to purchase a PD170 for the low light. I'm hoping that Panasonic comes up with low light capability on their future DVX. I already miss my DVX but I know I needed the PD for it's low light. The Panasonic is well balance handheld compare to the PD with or without it's wide angle lens. JR

April 6th, 2004, 07:46 AM	#10
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	The GL-1 is NOT better in low-light over the DVC80. GL-1= 1/4" ccds.......DVC80= 1/3"ccds. Plus I've worked with both a GL-1 and a DVX100- no comparision.

April 10th, 2004, 10:47 PM	#11
Richard Iredale Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 67	I'd be very nervous about buying from us1camera. Take a look here: http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2898.html