Does vx2100 have the same lowlight quality of pd170?

Tom Hardwick · June 24th, 2008, 04:56 AM

And a lower light sensitivity too, Boyd. The VX2k and PD150 were specked at 2 lux, the 2100/170 were 1 lux.

Boyd Ostroff · June 24th, 2008, 05:44 AM

I hadn't realized that Tom. But are you sure they're comparing "apples to apples"? In the past, Sony has changed the playing field a bit by providing low light specs which include a gain boost. I can't remember the details, but there's also something different about how cameras sold in Japan measure lux as compared to the US models.

Tom Hardwick · June 24th, 2008, 06:30 AM

I think (for once) that it is apples4apples Boyd. Not so with the Z7 and S270, where Sony have had to drop the speed by a stop (to 1/25th sec) to get down to 1.5 lux and I quote from their spec sheet:

''1.5 lux (auto gain, auto iris, 1/25 shutter)'' Just barmy - and cheating. Why not cheat more and shoot at 1/12th?

Roy Beazley · June 25th, 2008, 12:06 AM

Man those 2100's are just great....got some great footage of lightning bugs with that cam. Also shot a tv pilot lit by street lights only and only had to push it to 3db...amazing ....the lens could be longer though.

Tony B.

Seun Osewa · June 27th, 2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Beazley

Man those 2100's are just great....got some great footage of lightning bugs with that cam. Also shot a tv pilot lit by street lights only and only had to push it to 3db...amazing ....the lens could be longer though.

Tony B.

Longer? What would be the effect of that?

Roy Beazley · June 27th, 2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Seun Osewa

Longer? What would be the effect of that?

ummm a longer zoom lens...really use to a 16x....12x is kinda lame...

Marius Boruch · June 27th, 2008, 06:57 PM

I own both of them and VX2100 is much better - much sharper aspherical lens.

Tom Hardwick · June 28th, 2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marius Boruch

I own both of them and VX2100 is much better - much sharper aspherical lens.

Both of them? You mean a VX and a PD? And one is sharper than the other? Then the softer one has been dropped and needs attention.

J. Stephen McDonald · July 12th, 2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Beazley

ummm a longer zoom lens...really use to a 16x....12x is kinda lame...

Consider the Sony VCL-HG1758 telextender lens (1.7X), that is made specifially for this group of 58mm camcorders. The Raynox DCR-2020PRO (or the current variation of it that Raynox sells) gives 2.2X and works very well on the VX/PD series. However, it causes vignetting at any point below 85% full zoom and therefore isn't as versatile as the HG1758, which vignettes only below about 40% zoom.

June 24th, 2008, 04:56 AM	#16
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	And a lower light sensitivity too, Boyd. The VX2k and PD150 were specked at 2 lux, the 2100/170 were 1 lux.

June 24th, 2008, 05:44 AM	#17
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I hadn't realized that Tom. But are you sure they're comparing "apples to apples"? In the past, Sony has changed the playing field a bit by providing low light specs which include a gain boost. I can't remember the details, but there's also something different about how cameras sold in Japan measure lux as compared to the US models.

June 24th, 2008, 06:30 AM	#18
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	I think (for once) that it is apples4apples Boyd. Not so with the Z7 and S270, where Sony have had to drop the speed by a stop (to 1/25th sec) to get down to 1.5 lux and I quote from their spec sheet: ''1.5 lux (auto gain, auto iris, 1/25 shutter)'' Just barmy - and cheating. Why not cheat more and shoot at 1/12th?

June 25th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#19
Roy Beazley Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: tampa fl Posts: 92	Man those 2100's are just great....got some great footage of lightning bugs with that cam. Also shot a tv pilot lit by street lights only and only had to push it to 3db...amazing ....the lens could be longer though. Tony B.

June 27th, 2008, 06:57 PM	#22
Marius Boruch Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 421	I own both of them and VX2100 is much better - much sharper aspherical lens.