PDX10 -- various questions at DVinfo.net

Philip Flower · January 8th, 2003, 04:36 AM

Anyone have any pointers as to the difference in sound quality between the PDX10 and 950?

I don't need the 16:9 option and in the UK the difference in price between the 2 cameras is about £1,000. So the significant difference would appear to be the XLR inputs for the PDX10.

Whilst I do not need broadcast quality sound (and wouldn't expect it from either camera) I will need (from time to time) reasonably good sound. My thought was to use a Senn K6 with ME66 and 64 modules either with an XLR to minijack lead (for everyday operation) and buy a Beachtek box or similar to use with the 950 for more demanding situations thus saving some money.

However looking at the Glensound box for the VX2000, it is said that this is of no use unless you also have the BBC mods done to the camera. Does anyone have any experience of this sort of combination and any comments. Or should I just raise the extra if sound is to be any kind of consideration?

Thanks

Philip Flower

Phil Dale · January 11th, 2003, 08:51 AM

Hi Philip,
I have recently purchased a 950 and Ive been using the Sennheiser MKE300D with it, the sound quality is superb. I dont think the PD model is worth the extra money for DVCAM as personaly I cant tell the difference and its cheaper to get the 950 and a beachtek box.

Phil

Philip Nash · February 1st, 2003, 10:29 AM

Does anyone know of the best places to purchase a pdx10p (pal) in the states?

E-Gene Soh · February 1st, 2003, 12:47 PM

Will you be interested in purchasing one from Singapore? Cos I'm interested in getting one and if we get 2, we could prob get it at a better price.

Contact me off list if you are interested.

Philip Nash · February 1st, 2003, 07:29 PM

I need to buy a camera very soon to travel extensively with. I'll be shooting for a hopeful feature destination, hence film look. I'm leaning towards the pdx10p (pal) which would give me realitive portabilty, 25 fps, and a full 16:9 ratio. Any thoughts on this camera choice under these circumstances? Thanks

Frank Granovski · February 1st, 2003, 08:34 PM

The PAL version of the PDX10 would be a good cam for capturing for the purpose of transferring to film; but the PAL, MX500 would be better, depending on the transfer lab, because it also has frame mode. You will need an XLR adaptor, though. Sound is always an important issue which is often overlooked. But other than that, stick with NTSC (unless you're thinking film transfer).

Someone locally shot with a PD100A and it transferred to film. The doc was just over 2 hours long. Very expensive, but then she's quite the pro.

Derek Beck · February 23rd, 2003, 09:19 PM

Can anyone confirm for me that unlike the 950, the x10 has independent Iris and Gain control, versus the combined "exposure" control?

Thanks,
derek

Yik Kuen · February 24th, 2003, 06:35 PM

Hi Derek,

No according to Julian, posted in another thread (PDX-10 review). The PDX-10 has the same exposure control as TRV-950.

Guustaaf Damave · March 23rd, 2003, 12:47 AM

I recently bought two PDX10s and on both of them the XLR line inputs do not work properly. At about -25 dB the audio starts to distort badly. Has anyone else used the XLR line inputs on this model?

Vincent DeBartoloneis · March 30th, 2003, 10:54 AM

is the 16x9 mode the same on the cameras or is the 950 "fake"
16x9

thanks

Vince

love my pd150

Mike Moncrief · April 3rd, 2003, 03:04 PM

Hello,

Ok, since the PDX 10 does not have a built in ND filter.. I went today to various camera shops looking for one.. And find out there are several flavors.. ND 2, ND 4 and ND 6..
With ND 2 the least filtering and ND 6 the most filtering..
Which one is recomended for shooting outside with strong sunlight ??

thanks,
mike m.

Ken Tanaka · April 3rd, 2003, 03:48 PM

Hello Mike,
We have LOTS of threads on ND filters. Use the Search to hunt them down.

Here's a recent thread that might hit the mark.

Tom Hardwick · April 4th, 2003, 06:05 AM

But to give you a quick answer Mike, do this. Go outside on a sunny day and film at wide-angle, using auto exposure, and any 'normal' subject. Then on replay, hit the 'display' button and se what aperture the camera chose to shoot at.

If you get a reading such as 1/50th @ f9.5, then most certainly go get an ND8, as this will absorb three stops of light and let you shoot at a much sharper aperture. If it says f5.6 (say) then an ND4 (two stops) would be the one to go for.

tom.

Jeff Donald · April 4th, 2003, 06:46 AM

This thread has some good info also. It has good link to Schneider Optical for a good explanation of ND filters and their numbering, density etc.

Jeff Dobisch · May 2nd, 2003, 07:57 PM

The PDX10 uses more pixels to capture 16:9 than the 950.

There's a link on one of the threads here to a page that shows the difference in the capture area between the two.

January 8th, 2003, 04:36 AM	#1
Philip Flower New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 8	PDX10 -- various questions Anyone have any pointers as to the difference in sound quality between the PDX10 and 950? I don't need the 16:9 option and in the UK the difference in price between the 2 cameras is about £1,000. So the significant difference would appear to be the XLR inputs for the PDX10. Whilst I do not need broadcast quality sound (and wouldn't expect it from either camera) I will need (from time to time) reasonably good sound. My thought was to use a Senn K6 with ME66 and 64 modules either with an XLR to minijack lead (for everyday operation) and buy a Beachtek box or similar to use with the 950 for more demanding situations thus saving some money. However looking at the Glensound box for the VX2000, it is said that this is of no use unless you also have the BBC mods done to the camera. Does anyone have any experience of this sort of combination and any comments. Or should I just raise the extra if sound is to be any kind of consideration? Thanks Philip Flower

February 1st, 2003, 10:29 AM	#3
Philip Nash Tourist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 4	Puchasing pdx10p (pal) in U.S. Does anyone know of the best places to purchase a pdx10p (pal) in the states?

February 1st, 2003, 12:47 PM	#4
E-Gene Soh New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 21	Will you be interested in purchasing one from Singapore? Cos I'm interested in getting one and if we get 2, we could prob get it at a better price. Contact me off list if you are interested. __________________ regards, E-Gene Soh "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"

February 1st, 2003, 07:29 PM	#5
Philip Nash Tourist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 4	PDX10P- One Man Traveling Feature Shoot I need to buy a camera very soon to travel extensively with. I'll be shooting for a hopeful feature destination, hence film look. I'm leaning towards the pdx10p (pal) which would give me realitive portabilty, 25 fps, and a full 16:9 ratio. Any thoughts on this camera choice under these circumstances? Thanks

February 23rd, 2003, 09:19 PM	#7
Derek Beck Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 50	confirm on PDX10: manual Iris & Gain? Can anyone confirm for me that unlike the 950, the x10 has independent Iris and Gain control, versus the combined "exposure" control? Thanks, derek __________________ Derek Beck

January 11th, 2003, 08:51 AM	#2
Phil Dale Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UNITED KINGDOM Posts: 25	Hi Philip, I have recently purchased a 950 and Ive been using the Sennheiser MKE300D with it, the sound quality is superb. I dont think the PD model is worth the extra money for DVCAM as personaly I cant tell the difference and its cheaper to get the 950 and a beachtek box. Phil

February 1st, 2003, 08:34 PM	#6
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The PAL version of the PDX10 would be a good cam for capturing for the purpose of transferring to film; but the PAL, MX500 would be better, depending on the transfer lab, because it also has frame mode. You will need an XLR adaptor, though. Sound is always an important issue which is often overlooked. But other than that, stick with NTSC (unless you're thinking film transfer). Someone locally shot with a PD100A and it transferred to film. The doc was just over 2 hours long. Very expensive, but then she's quite the pro.

February 24th, 2003, 06:35 PM	#8
Yik Kuen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Johor Bahru, Malaysia Posts: 135	Hi Derek, No according to Julian, posted in another thread (PDX-10 review). The PDX-10 has the same exposure control as TRV-950.

March 23rd, 2003, 12:47 AM	#9
Guustaaf Damave New Boot Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17	Line level XLR inputs on PDX10 I recently bought two PDX10s and on both of them the XLR line inputs do not work properly. At about -25 dB the audio starts to distort badly. Has anyone else used the XLR line inputs on this model?

March 30th, 2003, 10:54 AM	#10
Vincent DeBartoloneis New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 8	pdx 10 and trv 950 ..16x9 the same? is the 16x9 mode the same on the cameras or is the 950 "fake" 16x9 thanks Vince love my pd150

April 3rd, 2003, 03:04 PM	#11
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Which ND filter ?? Hello, Ok, since the PDX 10 does not have a built in ND filter.. I went today to various camera shops looking for one.. And find out there are several flavors.. ND 2, ND 4 and ND 6.. With ND 2 the least filtering and ND 6 the most filtering.. Which one is recomended for shooting outside with strong sunlight ?? thanks, mike m. __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

April 3rd, 2003, 03:48 PM	#12
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Hello Mike, We have LOTS of threads on ND filters. Use the Search to hunt them down. Here's a recent thread that might hit the mark. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 4th, 2003, 06:05 AM	#13
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	But to give you a quick answer Mike, do this. Go outside on a sunny day and film at wide-angle, using auto exposure, and any 'normal' subject. Then on replay, hit the 'display' button and se what aperture the camera chose to shoot at. If you get a reading such as 1/50th @ f9.5, then most certainly go get an ND8, as this will absorb three stops of light and let you shoot at a much sharper aperture. If it says f5.6 (say) then an ND4 (two stops) would be the one to go for. tom.

April 4th, 2003, 06:46 AM	#14
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	This thread has some good info also. It has good link to Schneider Optical for a good explanation of ND filters and their numbering, density etc. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 2nd, 2003, 07:57 PM	#15
Jeff Dobisch New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Covington, TN Posts: 9	The PDX10 uses more pixels to capture 16:9 than the 950. There's a link on one of the threads here to a page that shows the difference in the capture area between the two.