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Dustin Waits · February 24th, 2004, 09:26 AM

I'm asking for a friend. Does anyone know if the 16:9 mode on the sony trv19 is true 16:9?

Here is a link to it....

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...#goto_itemInfo

If you scroll down to where it says "specialties" it lists 16:9.

Shawn Mielke · February 24th, 2004, 08:10 PM

Dunno, but I shot in 16:9 with my 19, as a fill cam with my PDX's, and have yet to watch any of it, much less compare or anything like that. Will let you know.

Boyd Ostroff · February 24th, 2004, 08:22 PM

I note that the B&H site says this is out of stock. On Sony's website they don't seem to list it anymore. Only TRV's are the 22, 33, 38, 70, 80 and 950. Perhaps this model has been discontinued? However the specs at B&H say it has 380,000 effective pixels. As a a point of reference, the PDX-10 which does "real" 16:9 has 690,000 effective pixels. Draw your own conclusions....

Tommy Haupfear · February 24th, 2004, 08:36 PM

The TRV19 does have an anamoprhic 16:9 mode like PDX10 (opposed to letterbox) but as Boyd has pointed out it lacks the extra pixels for a quality 16:9 mode. The differences are in both resolution and angle of view. The PDX10 widens the angle of view in 16:9 by utilizing the megapixel CCD and loses no horizontal or vertical resolution in the process. The TRV19 loses about 25% vertical resolution and keeps the same width of the 4:3 mode. The TRV33 is in the same family as the TRV19 but with its extra pixels does widen the angle of view in its 16:9 mode. Oddly the manual states (for the TRV33) that the widening of the angle is only at full wide zoom. It seems that at full telephoto you lose extended viewing area and return to the width of the 4:3 mode.

You can download the TRV19/22/33 manual from this link.

http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/sosdocs/default.asp

Dustin Waits · February 24th, 2004, 10:34 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone.

Ronald Lee · March 8th, 2004, 03:14 AM

Thanks.

I noticed that the TRV33 looked pretty good when it came out, almost like a little brother to the PDX10.

Same size and type of chip, gross pixels is: 1070, a 16:9 mode....
(http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=164803&navigationPath=32080n32081)

It would make a great backup camera for shoots, don't you think? I have always wondered how seamless it would be to mix TRV33 footage with PDX10 footage in a professional presentation....

Are there any existing, or new consumer cameras by Sony that have the same or better specs as the TRV33?

Tommy Haupfear · March 8th, 2004, 06:35 AM

It looks like the DCR-HC40 has replaced the TRV33 but it doesn't have the exact same specs. Not that it would make much of a difference but Sony says that the HC40 has a 1/5" CCD opposed to the TRV33's 1/4.7" CCD. They could be identical CCDs and Sony just had a change of heart on the oddball fractional decimal.

Of course the TRV33 is on clearance and I think its the better buy over the HC40.

February 24th, 2004, 09:26 AM	#1
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	Trv19 and 16:9 I'm asking for a friend. Does anyone know if the 16:9 mode on the sony trv19 is true 16:9? Here is a link to it.... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...#goto_itemInfo If you scroll down to where it says "specialties" it lists 16:9.

February 24th, 2004, 08:10 PM	#2
Shawn Mielke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 745	Dunno, but I shot in 16:9 with my 19, as a fill cam with my PDX's, and have yet to watch any of it, much less compare or anything like that. Will let you know. __________________ Breakthrough In Grey Room

February 24th, 2004, 08:22 PM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	I note that the B&H site says this is out of stock. On Sony's website they don't seem to list it anymore. Only TRV's are the 22, 33, 38, 70, 80 and 950. Perhaps this model has been discontinued? However the specs at B&H say it has 380,000 effective pixels. As a a point of reference, the PDX-10 which does "real" 16:9 has 690,000 effective pixels. Draw your own conclusions....

February 24th, 2004, 08:36 PM	#4
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	The TRV19 does have an anamoprhic 16:9 mode like PDX10 (opposed to letterbox) but as Boyd has pointed out it lacks the extra pixels for a quality 16:9 mode. The differences are in both resolution and angle of view. The PDX10 widens the angle of view in 16:9 by utilizing the megapixel CCD and loses no horizontal or vertical resolution in the process. The TRV19 loses about 25% vertical resolution and keeps the same width of the 4:3 mode. The TRV33 is in the same family as the TRV19 but with its extra pixels does widen the angle of view in its 16:9 mode. Oddly the manual states (for the TRV33) that the widening of the angle is only at full wide zoom. It seems that at full telephoto you lose extended viewing area and return to the width of the 4:3 mode. You can download the TRV19/22/33 manual from this link. http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/sosdocs/default.asp

February 24th, 2004, 10:34 PM	#5
Dustin Waits Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Myers Beach, Fl Posts: 243	Thanks for the replies everyone.

March 8th, 2004, 03:14 AM	#6
Ronald Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 435	Thanks. I noticed that the TRV33 looked pretty good when it came out, almost like a little brother to the PDX10. Same size and type of chip, gross pixels is: 1070, a 16:9 mode.... (http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=164803&navigationPath=32080n32081) It would make a great backup camera for shoots, don't you think? I have always wondered how seamless it would be to mix TRV33 footage with PDX10 footage in a professional presentation.... Are there any existing, or new consumer cameras by Sony that have the same or better specs as the TRV33?

March 8th, 2004, 06:35 AM	#7
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	It looks like the DCR-HC40 has replaced the TRV33 but it doesn't have the exact same specs. Not that it would make much of a difference but Sony says that the HC40 has a 1/5" CCD opposed to the TRV33's 1/4.7" CCD. They could be identical CCDs and Sony just had a change of heart on the oddball fractional decimal. Of course the TRV33 is on clearance and I think its the better buy over the HC40.