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Phillip Palacios · October 14th, 2012, 06:35 AM

What are you using? CamRade supposedly has one, but I can't find it on B&H, or anywhere else...
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Alister Chapman · October 14th, 2012, 12:39 PM

The CamRade one is only just coming from the factory, so it may be a couple of weeks before it becomes widely available.

Olof Ekbergh · October 14th, 2012, 07:10 PM

I always carry a garbage bag in a pocket when shooting.

They are light and deploy immediately and are great in dusty conditions as well.

I like the transparent ones the best it is easy to see all the controls. And they can be transformed to work with any lens and any camera in seconds. They work great with a stedicam rig as well. Remember a towel as well to dry your hands before inserting into the bag.

When on sticks I often use an umbrella always in my run bag as well, these are great if it is not too windy and cut the hot sun as well. I have a snap on fitting for it on my tripod, gaffer tape works great as well.

Phillip Palacios · October 15th, 2012, 07:28 AM

Yes the rubbish bag works for emergency applications, I'd prefer a more durable design though. I'm a little surprised PortaBrace doesn't have anything available yet. Thanks
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Bill Bruner · October 16th, 2012, 03:47 AM

Phillip - although it doesn't have the custom fit of the CamRade, the

Kata Pro-Light 15

fits the F3 and should fit the FS700. Better than a rubbish bag :)

Bill

Kieran Steele · January 30th, 2013, 06:19 PM

I still could not find any details of the camrade one. Just a news post on their site, no details. So I ended up getting a Kata CRC-12.

CRC-12 works as well as CRC-15 it seems with evf coverage as well.

The 15 does not have an EVF sleeve, you need a shower cap or something else, and I wanted to try and get more clear visibility on the left side of the controls. It seems to me they both fit and have tradeoffs. The CRC-15 seems to be longer and has a uniform tail end, no* evf sleeve, possibly more streamlined. The CRC-12 has a drop down back more suitable for the EX3 (and DSLR), which is unneeded, but means there is more clear pvc on the left side and an evf sleeve.

I've put it on and pulled a few things off and on, and rearranged viewfinders, and it seems to fit pretty well for something that is universal. I've not shot with it yet (nice weather down under at moment), nor have I checked coverage with a matte box and rails, nor tried it handheld (still debating my handheld setup). It looks like it will be fine, but no guarantee.

I did put my 70-400mm sony with adapter on it to test the length (as well as stock lens), and it covered to just over the hood, with only a little slack at the back.

I've had the viewing tube off the back, pointing out to the left (which is only useful at eye level as you then cannot tilt up). I can arrange the pvc to see the lcd folded to be viewed from the back, the left at the back, and folder over to look down from the top, all good.

EVF off the left side with a Noga arm fits in the sleeve nicely (going to get something more solid off the handle soon) and there is enough movement to have it at the front like shoulder mount, out to the left, or towards the back.

This will do until (IF) something comes out. Be interesting with the new sony models, the fs700 really has to carefully keep its place amongst the newbies. Maybe its not long for sale as the F5 drops in price with more competition. Slightly different body shape, and maybe thus no rain jackets :(

The only other one I got close to considering was a portabrace rain slicker for the FS100. I emailed them asking if it fit the FS700, (concerned about access to ND filter wheel) and/or if they were developing something…. No answer…

PortaBrace - Video Camera Cases - Professional Video Bags, Camera Cases

or the petrol Pr410 might fit, and if I am looking at it correctly might have a zip-down front where a zoom lens that extends might function underneath some shelter unhindered. If I had a complaint about the use of the crc-12 on the fs700, if you are using a extending zoom lens, its difficult to zoom quietly. I don't plan on doing any zooming during shots. If I did and was always shooting in weather, I'd wait and use the 2x digital crop zoom of the lens coming out, or maybe the petrol case.

DerranNL: Review: Raincover for the NEX-FS100

Here is some pics, stock lens, 70-400 sony amount (with adapter), lens tube on/off, alphatron evf on/off (you can tuck the evf sleeve and poke it in when not using).

Christopher Young · January 31st, 2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Palacios

What are you using? CamRade supposedly has one, but I can't find it on B&H, or anywhere else...
p

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T.G. Lawrence · February 6th, 2013, 03:12 PM

The Cam Rade, Portabrace (which has added the FS700 to the list of equipment covered by it's slicker) and Petrol - FS100 bag all look like they make use of the FS700 extension tube. The designs all seem to to be too tightly tailored to basic camera design and don't leave much room to expand and maintain easy access to all controls.

I'm shooting on a fishing boat off the West Coast of Vancouver Island in Feb and would like something with a sleeve to accommodate the Alphatron. Kieran it looks like the CRC-12 would leave room for access and visibility of the controls.

I've attached a couple of photos and have since relocated the handle to the forward bar next to the lens - not a drastic change. Is there a solution I just haven't found yet?

Kieran Steele · February 7th, 2013, 02:36 PM

Cool rig. So on a boat the most stable image is two feet on the deck handheld yes? :)

The crc12 would be more likely than the 15. Has far more vertical stretch. There is a fair bit of play between the mic sleeve and lens part but your rig will certainly put it to the test.

I could measure the max stretch between the two areas if you like?

I presume your setup there is for balance, though it looks like it would be quite front heavy.

Is it pretty balanced like that?

Is that the stock black lens or ?

T.G. Lawrence · February 11th, 2013, 01:04 PM

Kieran, I fitted the CRC12 and like you say while not perfect - it is just long enough to close on the tail end without any add ons - it did give the most functional fit so, in the end that's what I went with. Although with a V-lock or recorder attached off the rear rails it just wouldn't work. It provided a snug fit around the EVF and the excess material around the sleeve wasn't an issue. Thanks for the offer to measure but Genesis Matrix had one in stock to try on.

Stability on small trawler off the Pacific Northwest Coast in winter cannot be had. Dry land still feels like it's moving. The cine saddle got a lot of use though.

That's a Zeiss C/Y 180mm - not a lens to use on the boat. Mostly stuck to the Tokina 11-16mm and the Zeiss 35/2. Balance is a bit of an issue even with those smaller lenses. I recently added the Zacuto Handle relocator which has revolutionized the positioning and stability. The total weight is still pretty low so unless you're handholding in the same position for a long stretch it isn't big issue yet.

October 14th, 2012, 06:35 AM	#1
Phillip Palacios Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 233	Rain Cover What are you using? CamRade supposedly has one, but I can't find it on B&H, or anywhere else... p __________________ always learning www.phillippalacios.com

October 14th, 2012, 12:39 PM	#2
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Rain Cover The CamRade one is only just coming from the factory, so it may be a couple of weeks before it becomes widely available. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

October 14th, 2012, 07:10 PM	#3
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	Re: Rain Cover I always carry a garbage bag in a pocket when shooting. They are light and deploy immediately and are great in dusty conditions as well. I like the transparent ones the best it is easy to see all the controls. And they can be transformed to work with any lens and any camera in seconds. They work great with a stedicam rig as well. Remember a towel as well to dry your hands before inserting into the bag. When on sticks I often use an umbrella always in my run bag as well, these are great if it is not too windy and cut the hot sun as well. I have a snap on fitting for it on my tripod, gaffer tape works great as well. __________________ Olof Ekbergh • olof@WestsideAV.com Westside A V Studios • http://www.WestsideAVstore.com/

October 15th, 2012, 07:28 AM	#4
Phillip Palacios Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 233	Re: Rain Cover Yes the rubbish bag works for emergency applications, I'd prefer a more durable design though. I'm a little surprised PortaBrace doesn't have anything available yet. Thanks p __________________ always learning www.phillippalacios.com

October 16th, 2012, 03:47 AM	#5
Bill Bruner Major Player Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sunny California Posts: 513	Re: Rain Cover Phillip - although it doesn't have the custom fit of the CamRade, the Kata Pro-Light 15 Kata Pro-Light 15 fits the F3 and should fit the FS700. Better than a rubbish bag :) Bill

January 30th, 2013, 06:19 PM	#6
Kieran Steele Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 37	Re: Rain Cover I still could not find any details of the camrade one. Just a news post on their site, no details. So I ended up getting a Kata CRC-12. CRC-12 works as well as CRC-15 it seems with evf coverage as well. The 15 does not have an EVF sleeve, you need a shower cap or something else, and I wanted to try and get more clear visibility on the left side of the controls. It seems to me they both fit and have tradeoffs. The CRC-15 seems to be longer and has a uniform tail end, no* evf sleeve, possibly more streamlined. The CRC-12 has a drop down back more suitable for the EX3 (and DSLR), which is unneeded, but means there is more clear pvc on the left side and an evf sleeve. I've put it on and pulled a few things off and on, and rearranged viewfinders, and it seems to fit pretty well for something that is universal. I've not shot with it yet (nice weather down under at moment), nor have I checked coverage with a matte box and rails, nor tried it handheld (still debating my handheld setup). It looks like it will be fine, but no guarantee. I did put my 70-400mm sony with adapter on it to test the length (as well as stock lens), and it covered to just over the hood, with only a little slack at the back. I've had the viewing tube off the back, pointing out to the left (which is only useful at eye level as you then cannot tilt up). I can arrange the pvc to see the lcd folded to be viewed from the back, the left at the back, and folder over to look down from the top, all good. EVF off the left side with a Noga arm fits in the sleeve nicely (going to get something more solid off the handle soon) and there is enough movement to have it at the front like shoulder mount, out to the left, or towards the back. This will do until (IF) something comes out. Be interesting with the new sony models, the fs700 really has to carefully keep its place amongst the newbies. Maybe its not long for sale as the F5 drops in price with more competition. Slightly different body shape, and maybe thus no rain jackets :( The only other one I got close to considering was a portabrace rain slicker for the FS100. I emailed them asking if it fit the FS700, (concerned about access to ND filter wheel) and/or if they were developing something…. No answer… PortaBrace - Video Camera Cases - Professional Video Bags, Camera Cases or the petrol Pr410 might fit, and if I am looking at it correctly might have a zip-down front where a zoom lens that extends might function underneath some shelter unhindered. If I had a complaint about the use of the crc-12 on the fs700, if you are using a extending zoom lens, its difficult to zoom quietly. I don't plan on doing any zooming during shots. If I did and was always shooting in weather, I'd wait and use the 2x digital crop zoom of the lens coming out, or maybe the petrol case. DerranNL: Review: Raincover for the NEX-FS100 Here is some pics, stock lens, 70-400 sony amount (with adapter), lens tube on/off, alphatron evf on/off (you can tuck the evf sleeve and poke it in when not using). Attached Thumbnails

February 6th, 2013, 03:12 PM	#8
T.G. Lawrence Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 27	Re: Rain Cover The Cam Rade, Portabrace (which has added the FS700 to the list of equipment covered by it's slicker) and Petrol - FS100 bag all look like they make use of the FS700 extension tube. The designs all seem to to be too tightly tailored to basic camera design and don't leave much room to expand and maintain easy access to all controls. I'm shooting on a fishing boat off the West Coast of Vancouver Island in Feb and would like something with a sleeve to accommodate the Alphatron. Kieran it looks like the CRC-12 would leave room for access and visibility of the controls. I've attached a couple of photos and have since relocated the handle to the forward bar next to the lens - not a drastic change. Is there a solution I just haven't found yet? Attached Thumbnails

February 7th, 2013, 02:36 PM	#9
Kieran Steele Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 37	Re: Rain Cover Cool rig. So on a boat the most stable image is two feet on the deck handheld yes? :) The crc12 would be more likely than the 15. Has far more vertical stretch. There is a fair bit of play between the mic sleeve and lens part but your rig will certainly put it to the test. I could measure the max stretch between the two areas if you like? I presume your setup there is for balance, though it looks like it would be quite front heavy. Is it pretty balanced like that? Is that the stock black lens or ?

February 11th, 2013, 01:04 PM	#10
T.G. Lawrence Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 27	Re: Rain Cover Kieran, I fitted the CRC12 and like you say while not perfect - it is just long enough to close on the tail end without any add ons - it did give the most functional fit so, in the end that's what I went with. Although with a V-lock or recorder attached off the rear rails it just wouldn't work. It provided a snug fit around the EVF and the excess material around the sleeve wasn't an issue. Thanks for the offer to measure but Genesis Matrix had one in stock to try on. Stability on small trawler off the Pacific Northwest Coast in winter cannot be had. Dry land still feels like it's moving. The cine saddle got a lot of use though. That's a Zeiss C/Y 180mm - not a lens to use on the boat. Mostly stuck to the Tokina 11-16mm and the Zeiss 35/2. Balance is a bit of an issue even with those smaller lenses. I recently added the Zacuto Handle relocator which has revolutionized the positioning and stability. The total weight is still pretty low so unless you're handholding in the same position for a long stretch it isn't big issue yet.