NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB

Glen Vandermolen · April 16th, 2011, 06:11 AM

Thnks, Doug. I can't wait until you get a production model so you can give it a thorough evaluation. Then, I can buy it off of you. ;-)

Galen Rath · April 17th, 2011, 05:04 PM

Doug, is there a limiter in the audio recording circuit?

Doug Jensen · April 17th, 2011, 06:58 PM

The operation manual says yes, but I did not have time to try it myself.

AUDIO LIMIT
You can set the clipping-noise reduction function for CH1/CH2.

OFF Disables the function.

ON Enables the function.

� This function is available only when you set the AUTO/MAN (CH1/CH2) switches to MAN

Doug Jensen · April 17th, 2011, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen

Thnks, Doug. I can't wait until you get a production model so you can give it a thorough evaluation. Then, I can buy it off of you. ;-)

Glen, don't count on it! :-)

Glen Vandermolen · April 17th, 2011, 07:42 PM

That good, huh?

I may have to sell my Canon, in that case.

Galen Rath · April 17th, 2011, 09:41 PM

Doug, what's the timeline for the training DVD (chocked full of presets)?

Gabe Strong · April 18th, 2011, 01:31 AM

Well so much for the fader ND filters causing the image to look
bad. I've never used them and had been told by others, that they
can cause the video to look pretty bad, but the stuff you shot looked
very nice. Thanks for the first hand look and commentary on the
camera!

Steven Davis · April 18th, 2011, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Jensen

However, if someone who has never used it starts bashing the camera and arguing about meaningless technical specifications, I'll stop posting.

That cracked me up. Yes, the testosterone runs rampid on this forum sometimes.

Very nice posting Doug. My goal is to replace all three of my cameras next year, I'm really hoping for something good by next year.

Good job.

Doug Jensen · April 18th, 2011, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galen Rath

Doug, what's the timeline for the training DVD (chocked full of presets)?

Galen,

Thank you for asking. A training DVD for the FS100 is several months away. First I have to get a final production camera (not a prototype that is subject to being changed) and then it takes about 6-8 weeks of full-time work after that to produce a good training video. About 400 man-hours goes into the production so it is not something I can crank out overnight.

I am happy to say that our PMW-F3 training DVD will be shipping by the end of the month.
Mastering the Sony PMW-F3 training DVD

PS.
Thank you to everyone for the nice comments on my footage. I do enjoy reading the feedback and comments, but I don't want to bore everyone with replying to them. Just know that it is appreciated. Thanks.

Galen Rath · April 22nd, 2011, 12:02 PM

Doug, what minimum speed of SD card is going to be appropriate for this camera.

Class 10, 20MB/s is working fine for the CANON DSLR's I have, the next step up is 30MB/s, and I see in the accessories for the FS100, B&H PHOTO is showing a 45MB/s card. But I've seen nothing official in the specs from SONY regarding this choice. Thanks.

Doug Jensen · April 22nd, 2011, 01:03 PM

Galen,

According the the preliminary operation manual that I have a copy of, Class 4 is good enough for normal shooting and Class 10 is recommended for overcranking. Cards have been tested and approved up to 64GB. SD, SDHC, SDXC, Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick PRO-HG Duo are all compatible.

I should add that I used a 32GB Hoodman RAW card with the FS100 and had no problems -- nor did I expect to. I've been using that card with my F3 a lot to test the reliability of today's SD cards.

Galen Rath · April 28th, 2011, 08:18 AM

If there are dedicated slots for SD cards and memory sticks, why couldn't the camera be programmed to record to both simultaneously? Canon finally got around to updating the XF300 firmware for simultaneous recording to two cards. Right now the literature implies simultaneous recording to one memory card and the optional drive.

Doug Jensen · April 28th, 2011, 08:58 AM

Galen,

You can't record on two cards at once because there is only one slot. It accepts either type of card -- SD or Memory Stick.

There's a better way of simultaneous recording anyway, and that is with the HXR-FMU128
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/672424-REG/Sony_HXR_FMU128_HXR_FMU128_Flash_Memory_Unit.html
There's a recessed area on the right side of the camera where the drive just pops right in with no extra cables or power requirements. You woudn't even notice it was there. Then you can record up to 10 hours of footage at the highest bit rate on the drive. You can set it up to record on the drive and the memory card at the same time. Two copies, instantly.

Galen Rath · April 28th, 2011, 04:23 PM

Definitely a must have accessory, my guess is that they will never update this unit to USB 3.0, seems Sony and Canon never do minor changes to existing accessories like this.

Joe Carney · May 4th, 2011, 12:50 PM

I read on another site, the Genus ND filter is not a good option for wider angle lenses. Has anyone tried it with a 50mm or wider?

April 16th, 2011, 06:11 AM	#16
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Thnks, Doug. I can't wait until you get a production model so you can give it a thorough evaluation. Then, I can buy it off of you. ;-)

April 17th, 2011, 05:04 PM	#17
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Doug, is there a limiter in the audio recording circuit?

April 17th, 2011, 06:58 PM	#18
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB The operation manual says yes, but I did not have time to try it myself. AUDIO LIMIT You can set the clipping-noise reduction function for CH1/CH2. OFF Disables the function. ON Enables the function. � This function is available only when you set the AUTO/MAN (CH1/CH2) switches to MAN __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

April 17th, 2011, 07:42 PM	#20
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB That good, huh? I may have to sell my Canon, in that case.

April 17th, 2011, 09:41 PM	#21
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Doug, what's the timeline for the training DVD (chocked full of presets)?

April 18th, 2011, 01:31 AM	#22
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Well so much for the fader ND filters causing the image to look bad. I've never used them and had been told by others, that they can cause the video to look pretty bad, but the stuff you shot looked very nice. Thanks for the first hand look and commentary on the camera!

April 22nd, 2011, 12:02 PM	#25
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Doug, what minimum speed of SD card is going to be appropriate for this camera. Class 10, 20MB/s is working fine for the CANON DSLR's I have, the next step up is 30MB/s, and I see in the accessories for the FS100, B&H PHOTO is showing a 45MB/s card. But I've seen nothing official in the specs from SONY regarding this choice. Thanks.

April 22nd, 2011, 01:03 PM	#26
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Galen, According the the preliminary operation manual that I have a copy of, Class 4 is good enough for normal shooting and Class 10 is recommended for overcranking. Cards have been tested and approved up to 64GB. SD, SDHC, SDXC, Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick PRO-HG Duo are all compatible. I should add that I used a 32GB Hoodman RAW card with the FS100 and had no problems -- nor did I expect to. I've been using that card with my F3 a lot to test the reliability of today's SD cards. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools Last edited by Doug Jensen; April 22nd, 2011 at 01:35 PM.

April 28th, 2011, 08:18 AM	#27
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB If there are dedicated slots for SD cards and memory sticks, why couldn't the camera be programmed to record to both simultaneously? Canon finally got around to updating the XF300 firmware for simultaneous recording to two cards. Right now the literature implies simultaneous recording to one memory card and the optional drive.

April 28th, 2011, 08:58 AM	#28
Doug Jensen Vortex Media Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,450	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Galen, You can't record on two cards at once because there is only one slot. It accepts either type of card -- SD or Memory Stick. There's a better way of simultaneous recording anyway, and that is with the HXR-FMU128 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/672424-REG/Sony_HXR_FMU128_HXR_FMU128_Flash_Memory_Unit.html There's a recessed area on the right side of the camera where the drive just pops right in with no extra cables or power requirements. You woudn't even notice it was there. Then you can record up to 10 hours of footage at the highest bit rate on the drive. You can set it up to record on the drive and the memory card at the same time. Two copies, instantly. __________________ Vortex Media http://www.vortexmedia.com/ Sony FS7, F55, and XDCAM training videos, field guides, and other production tools

April 28th, 2011, 04:23 PM	#29
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB Definitely a must have accessory, my guess is that they will never update this unit to USB 3.0, seems Sony and Canon never do minor changes to existing accessories like this.

May 4th, 2011, 12:50 PM	#30
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Re: NEX-FS100 demo footage shot for NAB I read on another site, the Genus ND filter is not a good option for wider angle lenses. Has anyone tried it with a 50mm or wider? __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!