Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup

Alister Chapman · January 19th, 2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

Scarlet 2/3, which I mentioned in particular, can shoot a very high frame rate (150 fps burst). That means it has an exceptionally fast readout for a CMOS sensor.

As you say, it has a fast burst rate, but can it sustain that fast read out continuously without cooking the sensor? The F3 can shoot at full resolution 60P without any time limits (outputting over Dual Link HDSDi, no internal recording). Red One can do 120fps at 2k for short periods, yet at normal frame rates exhibits a similar amount of skew to an EX as both use a simple continuous rolling scan system where the read speed varies with frame rate. The EX is 2x frame rate and I believe that Red One is the same so you have a half frame period for integration followed by a half frame readout period. This allows the sensor to be used for both progressive and interlace.

Jon Fairhurst · January 19th, 2011, 05:22 PM

That's interesting. I wonder if they might upgrade the control circuitry to enable fast reads at lower framerates in their second generation cameras.

I tested the 25ms skew time on the 5D2 at 30 fps and assumed that it wouldn't change at 24 fps. I need to do another test...

Glen Vandermolen · January 23rd, 2011, 11:02 AM

Here's some new video of the prototype:

YouTube - [InterBEE2010]SONY???03 E???????NXCAM???????

YouTube - Sony NXCAM Super 35MM Development - CES 2011

Apologies if they've already been posted.
That handle thingy on top looks a little weird. But I can see where that front circle clamp can support the EX3 viewfinder.
Hmm..it clearly states 1080/60P.

Craig Seeman · January 23rd, 2011, 11:20 AM

Interesting that Sony has made public a "tentative" price of $6000.

BTW I'd bet that Sony is responding to feedback from the prototypes at the trade shows to make design changes.

Erik Phairas · January 23rd, 2011, 08:25 PM

Keeping my eye on it. Hope it turns out to have at least the same in camera picture quality as it's big brother.

Buba Kastorski · January 23rd, 2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Phairas

Hope it turns out to have at least the same in camera picture quality as it's big brother.

That's some very optimistic prognosis,
I would rather expect NXCAM to be on par with AF100

Erik Phairas · January 23rd, 2011, 09:44 PM

Well it will already up the F3 in that it can do 1080x60p in camera. The F3 needs an external recorder to do that.

Jean Daniel Villiers · March 2nd, 2011, 11:48 AM

Some update here Sony NXCAM 35 Film and Digital Times: News , it is more confirmation of what was speculated. One very important thing is that it will have the same sensor than the F3. New info is that it will come with two xlr input. They did not talk about the sdi output but I guess we will not have to wait to long because Sony will be launching it at NAB and expect delivery by June.

Sony seems to have embraced the s35 video market. They seem to have planned a whole line of product from the nex 5 camera in the low end, to the ultra high end with their 4k(8k) camera.

Glen Vandermolen · March 2nd, 2011, 01:39 PM

Here's even more info from DV.com:

Sony?s Big (NAB Show) Reveal ? Part I

Based upon the pics, it looks to be quite small. Interesting is the look-down monitor, like a Hasselblad.

Jean Daniel Villiers · March 2nd, 2011, 01:51 PM

No news on the 10 bit sdi output that was said before. Let just hope.

Glen Vandermolen · March 2nd, 2011, 04:27 PM

Here's an example of a Hasselblad.

I've always liked the form factor of Hasselblads. If the NXCAM S-35 is similar, as the people who've seen it have said, it'd be a pretty sweet camera, at least as far as appearance.

Ozzy Alvarez · March 2nd, 2011, 07:25 PM

Based upon the pics, it looks to be quite small. Interesting is the look-down monitor, like a Hasselblad.[/quote]

So, according to the article, Sony has three new NXCams to be revealed at NAB. The S35mm camcorder, a compact sized camcorder, probably the NXCam version of the HVR-A1, and a 3D NXCam. Should be interesting to see what all 3 cams have to offer. The article also said that we'll get a look at the pictures of these cameras after some embargo which ends on March 23. That's only four weeks away. So, we'll soon know what these camcorders look like.

Ozzy

Heath McKnight · March 3rd, 2011, 11:06 PM

3D, 35mm, super compact, nice! I'm excited to see Sony's offerings, but I think I'll be missing my 3rd NAB in a row.

Heath

Chris Medico · March 4th, 2011, 06:39 AM

I'll be checking this cam out in as much detail as possible. I'll share what I find out.

Emmanuel Plakiotis · March 4th, 2011, 07:17 AM

In both articles there was no mention for a HDSDI OUT. Does anybody know if it is implemented? For me is very crucial.

January 19th, 2011, 05:22 PM	#122
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	That's interesting. I wonder if they might upgrade the control circuitry to enable fast reads at lower framerates in their second generation cameras. I tested the 25ms skew time on the 5D2 at 30 fps and assumed that it wouldn't change at 24 fps. I need to do another test... __________________ Jon Fairhurst

January 23rd, 2011, 08:25 PM	#125
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Keeping my eye on it. Hope it turns out to have at least the same in camera picture quality as it's big brother. __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam

January 23rd, 2011, 09:44 PM	#127
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	Well it will already up the F3 in that it can do 1080x60p in camera. The F3 needs an external recorder to do that. __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam

March 2nd, 2011, 11:48 AM	#128
Jean Daniel Villiers Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mauritius Posts: 33	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup Some update here Sony NXCAM 35 Film and Digital Times: News , it is more confirmation of what was speculated. One very important thing is that it will have the same sensor than the F3. New info is that it will come with two xlr input. They did not talk about the sdi output but I guess we will not have to wait to long because Sony will be launching it at NAB and expect delivery by June. Sony seems to have embraced the s35 video market. They seem to have planned a whole line of product from the nex 5 camera in the low end, to the ultra high end with their 4k(8k) camera.

March 2nd, 2011, 01:39 PM	#129
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup Here's even more info from DV.com: Sony?s Big (NAB Show) Reveal ? Part I Based upon the pics, it looks to be quite small. Interesting is the look-down monitor, like a Hasselblad. Last edited by Glen Vandermolen; March 2nd, 2011 at 04:22 PM.

January 23rd, 2011, 11:02 AM	#123
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Here's some new video of the prototype: YouTube - [InterBEE2010]SONY???03 E???????NXCAM??????? YouTube - Sony NXCAM Super 35MM Development - CES 2011 Apologies if they've already been posted. That handle thingy on top looks a little weird. But I can see where that front circle clamp can support the EX3 viewfinder. Hmm..it clearly states 1080/60P.

January 23rd, 2011, 11:20 AM	#124
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Interesting that Sony has made public a "tentative" price of $6000. BTW I'd bet that Sony is responding to feedback from the prototypes at the trade shows to make design changes.

March 2nd, 2011, 01:51 PM	#130
Jean Daniel Villiers Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Mauritius Posts: 33	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup No news on the 10 bit sdi output that was said before. Let just hope.

March 2nd, 2011, 04:27 PM	#131
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup Here's an example of a Hasselblad. I've always liked the form factor of Hasselblads. If the NXCAM S-35 is similar, as the people who've seen it have said, it'd be a pretty sweet camera, at least as far as appearance. Attached Thumbnails

March 2nd, 2011, 07:25 PM	#132
Ozzy Alvarez Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kenilworth, NJ Posts: 85	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup Based upon the pics, it looks to be quite small. Interesting is the look-down monitor, like a Hasselblad.[/quote] So, according to the article, Sony has three new NXCams to be revealed at NAB. The S35mm camcorder, a compact sized camcorder, probably the NXCam version of the HVR-A1, and a 3D NXCam. Should be interesting to see what all 3 cams have to offer. The article also said that we'll get a look at the pictures of these cameras after some embargo which ends on March 23. That's only four weeks away. So, we'll soon know what these camcorders look like. Ozzy Last edited by Ozzy Alvarez; March 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 PM.

March 3rd, 2011, 11:06 PM	#133
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup 3D, 35mm, super compact, nice! I'm excited to see Sony's offerings, but I think I'll be missing my 3rd NAB in a row. Heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

March 4th, 2011, 06:39 AM	#134
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup I'll be checking this cam out in as much detail as possible. I'll share what I find out. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

March 4th, 2011, 07:17 AM	#135
Emmanuel Plakiotis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 344	Re: Sony to expand 35mm large format NXCAM lineup In both articles there was no mention for a HDSDI OUT. Does anybody know if it is implemented? For me is very crucial.