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Michael Johnston · September 30th, 2011, 11:12 AM

I am on a crew that shoots LIVE high school football here in Texas on Friday nights. We shoot on JVC GY-HD110's. Last night, I had my first opportunity to shoot a game on my NX5U in a sort of studio configuration. Here are the highlights. In my opinion, the NX5U, with its SDI output, is the perfect camera to produce sports events with. Your thoughts? BE SURE TO WATCH IN HD!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IACKLKp8AYw

Chris Sgaraglino · September 30th, 2011, 07:39 PM

I have been shooting HS football all season... I have yet to ties to live broadcast (next weekend), but I have been very happy with every secenio I have put it in...

A side benefit to shooting HSfootball, is your tripod skills will improve very quickly!

Justin Hewitt · October 2nd, 2011, 04:23 AM

Looks Good ...
how did you have your camera configured ?

Michael Johnston · October 2nd, 2011, 12:57 PM

I was shooting in 1920x1080 60i FH mode (17Mbs). Camera was mounted on a Davis & Sanford ProVista tripod (FM18 head) with dual handles. A Libec zoom controller was mounted on one handle. I had a Hair 7" SD LCD monitor mounted on the back cold shoe used for framing, LCD open for color/audio bars monitoring. Everything AC powered. Channel one audio was AM radio via mini to XLR adapter. Channel two audio was on-cam mic. Finished video was mixed to mono. Scoreboard was added in post. I'll post my picture profile setting soon because several have asked about them.

Billy Nelson · October 19th, 2011, 01:24 PM

I use a NX5U to video Div III college football games. If you use this camera you will love the 20x zoom lens, the great data storage with 16 gig SDHC cards (PNY $44.00 for 16GB class 10 at Walmart) and the option of the 128GB flash drive intergration. I've been using 16 GB PNY class 4 for 1.5 years without one glitch which is amazing. The simplest set up for day time sports is to turn on x.v.color which by passes the picture profiles. I haven't tried it for night games and probably opt for a low light picture profile.

My clients love the quality of the video the NX5U shoots of their games.

Here's a promo Sports Promo - YouTube

Michael Johnston · October 19th, 2011, 09:43 PM

1920x1080/60i FH mode
f1.6
Shutter: 1/60
Gain: -3

PICTURE PROFILE SETTINGS

BLACK LEVEL: master -4, r 0, g 0, b 0
GAMMA: ITU709
BLACK GAMMA: range middle, level 0
KNEE: auto 95% middle
COLOR MODE: ITU709 MATRIX, level 8
COLOR LEVEL: +3
COLOR PHASE: 0
COLOR DEPTH: all 0's
DETAIL: level +7, manual - v/h balance 0, b/w balance type 4, black limit 3, white limit 7, crispening 7, hi light detail +2
SKIN TONE DETAIL: Off

James Kuhn · October 21st, 2011, 09:51 PM

Michael...that is great video! Man, so crisp, and the colors are superb! Very nice product.

Regards,

J.

Mikel Arturo · October 23rd, 2011, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Kuhn

Michael...that is great video! Man, so crisp, and the colors are superb! Very nice product.

Regards,

J.

+1
Excelent quality.

Michael, which video switcher are you using? (if there is any, of course; it is a multicam event?)

Titling machine or computer/software titling (Blackmagic?, I'm very interested in REAL USER info about Blackmagic mixers).

Michael Johnston · October 24th, 2011, 05:33 PM

This was not LIVE. High school games can not be broadcast LIVE. This was shot one camera with graphics and replays added in post. It was edited immediately following the game to be uploaded and posted online by 8am the next morning. Edited in CS5 with graphics created in Photoshop prior to gameday.

James Kuhn · October 24th, 2011, 07:42 PM

Now that's 'work-flow', mate!

J.

Michael Johnston · October 24th, 2011, 08:49 PM

Toughest part is I only get 2 to 3 hours to do all that editing because it takes 6 hours to render out the entire game in 640x360 for upload. However, I have to cut highlights in 1080p before I can cut the full game.

Mikel Arturo · October 25th, 2011, 02:20 AM

OK. Thanks.

To speed up your render, I recommend you:

1.- Nvidia hack. I have a Nvidia 450GTS (more or less 90$) and speeds up everything. Now I will suggest and GTX550 (the evolution of 450GTS). In theory, you don't need to go to more expensive cards or Quadro version because there isn't significant speed acceleration. Premiere CS 5.5 is limited and can't get the extra power of high end cards.
2.- 12 Gigas RAM or more (DDR3).
3.- 3 hard disks: 1 for systems, 1 for capture/transfer footage and edit (1.5TB/7.200 rpm) and 1 for render (is FASTER not to render in the same disk where you put the original footage; this one is an 2TB/5400rpm).
4.- Quad core. I'm still working with an old Intel Quad core and it works like a charm whith upgrades 1, 2 and 3.

This is my rig. I think that renders of 2 hours of full HD (1920x1080), 25p, FX to the same frame size as you (640x360) takes 3 hours, half time than your work (on CS5.5). No color correction, audio filter noise reduction, 2 layers of graphics with logos, a pair of crossfade transitions.

Chris Sgaraglino · November 2nd, 2011, 10:47 AM

Here in Colorado we don't always get to go out on top of the Press Box to shoot the High School games.
Sometimes the weather doesn't cooperate or the PB does not have a roof to get on.

But shooting from inside the Press Box also presents its own challenges - especially space.

Being that windows are small and that there is typically some kind of shelf/table against the wall - a full size tripod just will not work!

My solution - is to use my Still Photo tripod and a smaller 701HDV Fluid head and then add my VeriZoom controller. Work pretty good - but on some location, I find that this is still too tall for me to operate properly.

So last week I added a new 5" 1080 HD-HDMI monitor and clamped it to one of the legs of the tropod - oh, man what a difference!

James Kuhn · November 2nd, 2011, 02:29 PM

Chris...nice rig! I have an 'old' Gitzo G1325 Mk. II, with as luck would have it, a Manfrotto 701 HDV. What 'clamp' are you using for the monitor? The reason I ask, I plan on purchasing an Atomos Samurai, I've been told, when using 'spinning disc' (HDD) media attached to the rear 'hot shoe' mount on the 'NX5', the vibration will translate through the camera. I don't know if mounting the device on one of the legs might help mitigate the issue?

Anyway, nice solution.

J.

Chris Sgaraglino · November 3rd, 2011, 08:22 AM

It's a Manfrotto Super Clamp with a standard light stand stud that I have a mini-ballhead screwed into.

For your purpose, this might work great as the clamp does have rubber on the inside and would absorb most if not all the vibration form a HDD.

Also, look at the Manfrotto Mini-Clamp if you want something lighter.

September 30th, 2011, 11:12 AM	#1
Michael Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 130	NX5U and Sports I am on a crew that shoots LIVE high school football here in Texas on Friday nights. We shoot on JVC GY-HD110's. Last night, I had my first opportunity to shoot a game on my NX5U in a sort of studio configuration. Here are the highlights. In my opinion, the NX5U, with its SDI output, is the perfect camera to produce sports events with. Your thoughts? BE SURE TO WATCH IN HD!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IACKLKp8AYw

September 30th, 2011, 07:39 PM	#2
Chris Sgaraglino Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 237	Re: NX5U and Sports I have been shooting HS football all season... I have yet to ties to live broadcast (next weekend), but I have been very happy with every secenio I have put it in... A side benefit to shooting HSfootball, is your tripod skills will improve very quickly! __________________ Chris Sgaraglino The Outdoor Life Blog \| Widow Creek Photography

October 2nd, 2011, 04:23 AM	#3
Justin Hewitt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne Victoria Posts: 75	Re: NX5U and Sports Looks Good ... how did you have your camera configured ?

October 2nd, 2011, 12:57 PM	#4
Michael Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 130	Re: NX5U and Sports I was shooting in 1920x1080 60i FH mode (17Mbs). Camera was mounted on a Davis & Sanford ProVista tripod (FM18 head) with dual handles. A Libec zoom controller was mounted on one handle. I had a Hair 7" SD LCD monitor mounted on the back cold shoe used for framing, LCD open for color/audio bars monitoring. Everything AC powered. Channel one audio was AM radio via mini to XLR adapter. Channel two audio was on-cam mic. Finished video was mixed to mono. Scoreboard was added in post. I'll post my picture profile setting soon because several have asked about them.

October 19th, 2011, 01:24 PM	#5
Billy Nelson New Boot Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brownwood, Texas Posts: 11	Re: NX5U and Sports I use a NX5U to video Div III college football games. If you use this camera you will love the 20x zoom lens, the great data storage with 16 gig SDHC cards (PNY $44.00 for 16GB class 10 at Walmart) and the option of the 128GB flash drive intergration. I've been using 16 GB PNY class 4 for 1.5 years without one glitch which is amazing. The simplest set up for day time sports is to turn on x.v.color which by passes the picture profiles. I haven't tried it for night games and probably opt for a low light picture profile. My clients love the quality of the video the NX5U shoots of their games. Here's a promo Sports Promo - YouTube

October 19th, 2011, 09:43 PM	#6
Michael Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 130	Re: NX5U and Sports 1920x1080/60i FH mode f1.6 Shutter: 1/60 Gain: -3 PICTURE PROFILE SETTINGS BLACK LEVEL: master -4, r 0, g 0, b 0 GAMMA: ITU709 BLACK GAMMA: range middle, level 0 KNEE: auto 95% middle COLOR MODE: ITU709 MATRIX, level 8 COLOR LEVEL: +3 COLOR PHASE: 0 COLOR DEPTH: all 0's DETAIL: level +7, manual - v/h balance 0, b/w balance type 4, black limit 3, white limit 7, crispening 7, hi light detail +2 SKIN TONE DETAIL: Off

October 21st, 2011, 09:51 PM	#7
James Kuhn Major Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 865	Re: NX5U and Sports Michael...that is great video! Man, so crisp, and the colors are superb! Very nice product. Regards, J.

October 24th, 2011, 05:33 PM	#9
Michael Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 130	Re: NX5U and Sports This was not LIVE. High school games can not be broadcast LIVE. This was shot one camera with graphics and replays added in post. It was edited immediately following the game to be uploaded and posted online by 8am the next morning. Edited in CS5 with graphics created in Photoshop prior to gameday.

October 24th, 2011, 07:42 PM	#10
James Kuhn Major Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 865	Re: NX5U and Sports Now that's 'work-flow', mate! J.

October 24th, 2011, 08:49 PM	#11
Michael Johnston Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 130	Re: NX5U and Sports Toughest part is I only get 2 to 3 hours to do all that editing because it takes 6 hours to render out the entire game in 640x360 for upload. However, I have to cut highlights in 1080p before I can cut the full game.

October 25th, 2011, 02:20 AM	#12
Mikel Arturo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 93	Re: NX5U and Sports OK. Thanks. To speed up your render, I recommend you: 1.- Nvidia hack. I have a Nvidia 450GTS (more or less 90$) and speeds up everything. Now I will suggest and GTX550 (the evolution of 450GTS). In theory, you don't need to go to more expensive cards or Quadro version because there isn't significant speed acceleration. Premiere CS 5.5 is limited and can't get the extra power of high end cards. 2.- 12 Gigas RAM or more (DDR3). 3.- 3 hard disks: 1 for systems, 1 for capture/transfer footage and edit (1.5TB/7.200 rpm) and 1 for render (is FASTER not to render in the same disk where you put the original footage; this one is an 2TB/5400rpm). 4.- Quad core. I'm still working with an old Intel Quad core and it works like a charm whith upgrades 1, 2 and 3. This is my rig. I think that renders of 2 hours of full HD (1920x1080), 25p, FX to the same frame size as you (640x360) takes 3 hours, half time than your work (on CS5.5). No color correction, audio filter noise reduction, 2 layers of graphics with logos, a pair of crossfade transitions.

November 2nd, 2011, 10:47 AM	#13
Chris Sgaraglino Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 237	Re: NX5U and Sports Here in Colorado we don't always get to go out on top of the Press Box to shoot the High School games. Sometimes the weather doesn't cooperate or the PB does not have a roof to get on. But shooting from inside the Press Box also presents its own challenges - especially space. Being that windows are small and that there is typically some kind of shelf/table against the wall - a full size tripod just will not work! My solution - is to use my Still Photo tripod and a smaller 701HDV Fluid head and then add my VeriZoom controller. Work pretty good - but on some location, I find that this is still too tall for me to operate properly. So last week I added a new 5" 1080 HD-HDMI monitor and clamped it to one of the legs of the tropod - oh, man what a difference! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Chris Sgaraglino The Outdoor Life Blog \| Widow Creek Photography

November 2nd, 2011, 02:29 PM	#14
James Kuhn Major Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Merritt Island, Florida Posts: 865	Re: NX5U and Sports Chris...nice rig! I have an 'old' Gitzo G1325 Mk. II, with as luck would have it, a Manfrotto 701 HDV. What 'clamp' are you using for the monitor? The reason I ask, I plan on purchasing an Atomos Samurai, I've been told, when using 'spinning disc' (HDD) media attached to the rear 'hot shoe' mount on the 'NX5', the vibration will translate through the camera. I don't know if mounting the device on one of the legs might help mitigate the issue? Anyway, nice solution. J.

November 3rd, 2011, 08:22 AM	#15
Chris Sgaraglino Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 237	Re: NX5U and Sports It's a Manfrotto Super Clamp with a standard light stand stud that I have a mini-ballhead screwed into. For your purpose, this might work great as the clamp does have rubber on the inside and would absorb most if not all the vibration form a HDD. Also, look at the Manfrotto Mini-Clamp if you want something lighter. __________________ Chris Sgaraglino The Outdoor Life Blog \| Widow Creek Photography