Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? at DVinfo.net

Mike Beckett · June 13th, 2011, 01:39 AM

Hi guys,

I was just wondering if there were any plans to have a forum for the new Sony NX70, MC50 and related cams? I don't think there's a real home for the other Sony "tinycams" either, the CX700, CX500 etc., they don't really belong in the HDV forums along with the HC- series and Sony A1.

Dustin Moore · June 13th, 2011, 07:28 AM

I second the motion...

(but that probably won't help.)

I think the CX550, CX700 and the other back illuminated single chip cameras are sufficiently
different than the other consumer models technically as to have professional uses and
generate interesting discussions. I imagine this line is going to be around for awhile.

Dave Blackhurst · June 14th, 2011, 01:32 AM

Third it!

A forum area for the SR/XR/CX series, along with their "pro" kin, MC/NX. Since these replaced the old HC series, now several YEARS out of date/production... probably a good time?

Even an additional subsection with the "other" Sony cams would be good...

Simon Beer · June 14th, 2011, 09:28 AM

Having sold my EX1 and bought a NX70 which suits me so much better I too propose the motion!

Mike Beckett · June 14th, 2011, 10:38 AM

We're assuming this is a democracy. <grin>

Troy Moss · June 14th, 2011, 02:43 PM

Hey Mr. Forum Controller, Make it happen! Or as Nike would say "Just Do It"!

Dave Mercer · June 14th, 2011, 03:09 PM

I want to find out more about this camera! And having a dedicated sight would help.

Wacharapong Chiowanich · June 14th, 2011, 11:19 PM

Hope to see the cameras in their own forum too. The NX70, CX700V etc. are not only Sony's new cams but also among the first in their new NX, handycam and Cyber-shot still camera lines that have adopted Sony's intended "new" standard: 28Mbps 1080/60p,50p file format. A lot of people, myself included, have to resort to different detours to get these otherwise highly efficient files to be editable with the major NLEs on both PC and Mac platforms. The ability to record natives 24p/25p is also the first for Sony's consumer lines since...maybe the dawn of time! These will create a lot of issues in acquisition and post. Discussions under a separate forum will be very useful to refer to at a glance.

Chris Hurd · June 15th, 2011, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Beckett

We're assuming this is a democracy. <grin>

Part of it is (believe it or not). The rest is fairly benevolent.

Anyway, here it is -- thanks all,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Beckett

I don't think there's a real home for the other Sony "tinycams" either, the CX700, CX500 etc.,

Will do. Somebody refresh me on what's current and relevant to DVi. MC2000?

Troy Moss · June 15th, 2011, 10:51 AM

Thanks Chris! That's great service!

Dave Blackhurst · June 15th, 2011, 12:48 PM

Hi Chris -

I'd suggest that you follow the Sony approach (sorta).

They divide things with "bloggie" (probably also would include their P&S lines in practical senses - basically small ultra portable cameras capable of shooting video)...

"handycam" (this is the "traditional" consumer video cameras, topped by small cameras that typically are useful as a B/C cam, secondary image aquisition, etc.)...

"advanced and professional" are somewhat lumped together (although right now the linking doesn't work, so I don't think THEY know exactly how to divide things up!)...

Then there's a separate category of "interchangeable lens camcorders" (and this gets bloody confusing, as the NEX series includes still cameras that shoot pretty good video in their own right, plus the SLT translucent Alpha series which competes in the DSLR space...)

I think for a while you had "HDMOM" gearing up to reach out to the first two categories... which are increasing as video becomes rapidly commoditized (and everyone and their dog has a cell phone with HD video too!).

To model on the Canon fora, if it's an (HF, HF-S), it's SR (outdated nomenclature)/XR/CX in the Sony lines - that's the HDD/flash equivalent of the old HC series (tape, like the HC7/9, HV20) - think sub $2k price point stuff. The MC/NX are more "pro" oriented, primarily with more features and higher price points. You've got pretty good coverage for the higher end stuff, it's mainly these upper end "entry level" cams that can be used professionaly.

The MC2000 is the replacement for the HD1000 if that helps - again think a SS recording vs. tape...

That's the primary changeover - got to keep or archive the old "tape based" threads, and update with threads for the newer cameras. There's always been active threads scattered throughout DVi for the SR/XR/CX, and you initially transplanted some to HDMOM to get that started, they just need a home here!

I suspect you face the challenge that some of the other forums (some defunct) I used to visit face... the technology is changing at a very rapid pace, and "DV" is already an anachronism as relates to a "format terminology"... But since there's already a thriving community here, it's just a matter of adapting to the trends/changes (ala DSLR's which have other fora, but a good following here).

Redecorate the bar, but leave the name on the door the same! Leave a few tables at the back for the "old regulars", but spruce it up for the "new" crowd so they feel welcome too!

June 13th, 2011, 01:39 AM	#1
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Hi guys, I was just wondering if there were any plans to have a forum for the new Sony NX70, MC50 and related cams? I don't think there's a real home for the other Sony "tinycams" either, the CX700, CX500 etc., they don't really belong in the HDV forums along with the HC- series and Sony A1.

June 13th, 2011, 07:28 AM	#2
Dustin Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 104	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? I second the motion... (but that probably won't help.) I think the CX550, CX700 and the other back illuminated single chip cameras are sufficiently different than the other consumer models technically as to have professional uses and generate interesting discussions. I imagine this line is going to be around for awhile.

June 14th, 2011, 01:32 AM	#3
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Third it! A forum area for the SR/XR/CX series, along with their "pro" kin, MC/NX. Since these replaced the old HC series, now several YEARS out of date/production... probably a good time? Even an additional subsection with the "other" Sony cams would be good...

June 14th, 2011, 09:28 AM	#4
Simon Beer Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 48	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Having sold my EX1 and bought a NX70 which suits me so much better I too propose the motion!

June 14th, 2011, 10:38 AM	#5
Mike Beckett Trustee Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,569	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? We're assuming this is a democracy. <grin>

June 14th, 2011, 02:43 PM	#6
Troy Moss Major Player Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 253	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Hey Mr. Forum Controller, Make it happen! Or as Nike would say "Just Do It"!

June 14th, 2011, 03:09 PM	#7
Dave Mercer Major Player Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lake Atitlan, Guatemala Posts: 346	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? I want to find out more about this camera! And having a dedicated sight would help.

June 14th, 2011, 11:19 PM	#8
Wacharapong Chiowanich Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 400	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Hope to see the cameras in their own forum too. The NX70, CX700V etc. are not only Sony's new cams but also among the first in their new NX, handycam and Cyber-shot still camera lines that have adopted Sony's intended "new" standard: 28Mbps 1080/60p,50p file format. A lot of people, myself included, have to resort to different detours to get these otherwise highly efficient files to be editable with the major NLEs on both PC and Mac platforms. The ability to record natives 24p/25p is also the first for Sony's consumer lines since...maybe the dawn of time! These will create a lot of issues in acquisition and post. Discussions under a separate forum will be very useful to refer to at a glance.

June 15th, 2011, 10:51 AM	#10
Troy Moss Major Player Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 253	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Thanks Chris! That's great service!

June 15th, 2011, 12:48 PM	#11
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Re: Forum for NX70, CX700 etc? Hi Chris - I'd suggest that you follow the Sony approach (sorta). They divide things with "bloggie" (probably also would include their P&S lines in practical senses - basically small ultra portable cameras capable of shooting video)... "handycam" (this is the "traditional" consumer video cameras, topped by small cameras that typically are useful as a B/C cam, secondary image aquisition, etc.)... "advanced and professional" are somewhat lumped together (although right now the linking doesn't work, so I don't think THEY know exactly how to divide things up!)... Then there's a separate category of "interchangeable lens camcorders" (and this gets bloody confusing, as the NEX series includes still cameras that shoot pretty good video in their own right, plus the SLT translucent Alpha series which competes in the DSLR space...) I think for a while you had "HDMOM" gearing up to reach out to the first two categories... which are increasing as video becomes rapidly commoditized (and everyone and their dog has a cell phone with HD video too!). To model on the Canon fora, if it's an (HF, HF-S), it's SR (outdated nomenclature)/XR/CX in the Sony lines - that's the HDD/flash equivalent of the old HC series (tape, like the HC7/9, HV20) - think sub $2k price point stuff. The MC/NX are more "pro" oriented, primarily with more features and higher price points. You've got pretty good coverage for the higher end stuff, it's mainly these upper end "entry level" cams that can be used professionaly. The MC2000 is the replacement for the HD1000 if that helps - again think a SS recording vs. tape... That's the primary changeover - got to keep or archive the old "tape based" threads, and update with threads for the newer cameras. There's always been active threads scattered throughout DVi for the SR/XR/CX, and you initially transplanted some to HDMOM to get that started, they just need a home here! I suspect you face the challenge that some of the other forums (some defunct) I used to visit face... the technology is changing at a very rapid pace, and "DV" is already an anachronism as relates to a "format terminology"... But since there's already a thriving community here, it's just a matter of adapting to the trends/changes (ala DSLR's which have other fora, but a good following here). Redecorate the bar, but leave the name on the door the same! Leave a few tables at the back for the "old regulars", but spruce it up for the "new" crowd so they feel welcome too!